Rekluse clutches

gpracer36
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3/1/2017 2:25pm
thanks guys, getting the exp 3.0 for my crf
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agn5009 wrote:
What are the differences between the two while riding? I really don't understand it. I guess in layman's terms, if I were to ride a bike...
What are the differences between the two while riding? I really don't understand it. I guess in layman's terms, if I were to ride a bike with the radius x in it then change it out and put a core exp in, what would the noriceable differences be? I'm by no stretch of the imagination any sort of mechanic so im not going to fully understand the functioning components anyways.
the Radius X clutch should slip less and run cooler. it has more friction surface area.
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If you ride more than 5 times a year and are at all serious about your hobby and think you want a rekluse....... Take my word for it, DO NOT BUY ANY THING BUT THE CORE 3.0,......if you do buy the cheaper set up it won't work as well, the bike may creep, slip and the clutch lever is always fiddlestring tight if i remember right, and you'll have to sell it on ebay for 1/2 the money and then you will buy the expensive set up that works like butter in every way and you'll be out time and money, I own a few rekluses and would not even consider anyone but the 3.0......If you can't afford it, save money until you can, its that much better than the rest, plus more reliable too in my opinion.

By the way.....I cheapened out on the first one I bought for a rm 250 I turned into a woods bike.......within hours of riding it I knew I made a mistake and bought the 3.0.....perfect so far. The other styles do not feel or work like the stock clutch, only the core 3.0 does. Good Luck, listen to people that have been where your going.
agn5009
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3/1/2017 6:33pm
vetmxr wrote:
If you ride more than 5 times a year and are at all serious about your hobby and think you want a rekluse....... Take my word...
If you ride more than 5 times a year and are at all serious about your hobby and think you want a rekluse....... Take my word for it, DO NOT BUY ANY THING BUT THE CORE 3.0,......if you do buy the cheaper set up it won't work as well, the bike may creep, slip and the clutch lever is always fiddlestring tight if i remember right, and you'll have to sell it on ebay for 1/2 the money and then you will buy the expensive set up that works like butter in every way and you'll be out time and money, I own a few rekluses and would not even consider anyone but the 3.0......If you can't afford it, save money until you can, its that much better than the rest, plus more reliable too in my opinion.

By the way.....I cheapened out on the first one I bought for a rm 250 I turned into a woods bike.......within hours of riding it I knew I made a mistake and bought the 3.0.....perfect so far. The other styles do not feel or work like the stock clutch, only the core 3.0 does. Good Luck, listen to people that have been where your going.
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to install?

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3/1/2017 7:49pm
agn5009 wrote:
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to...
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to install?
Yes. Buy, install, setup, break in, fine tune, then rip. I have over 200 hrs on my core exp 2.0. Only adjusted it once. Just checked all the plates and everything is well within spec (original plates). No signs of wear. And this is on a 2 stroke.
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3/1/2017 7:50pm
vetmxr wrote:
If you ride more than 5 times a year and are at all serious about your hobby and think you want a rekluse....... Take my word...
If you ride more than 5 times a year and are at all serious about your hobby and think you want a rekluse....... Take my word for it, DO NOT BUY ANY THING BUT THE CORE 3.0,......if you do buy the cheaper set up it won't work as well, the bike may creep, slip and the clutch lever is always fiddlestring tight if i remember right, and you'll have to sell it on ebay for 1/2 the money and then you will buy the expensive set up that works like butter in every way and you'll be out time and money, I own a few rekluses and would not even consider anyone but the 3.0......If you can't afford it, save money until you can, its that much better than the rest, plus more reliable too in my opinion.

By the way.....I cheapened out on the first one I bought for a rm 250 I turned into a woods bike.......within hours of riding it I knew I made a mistake and bought the 3.0.....perfect so far. The other styles do not feel or work like the stock clutch, only the core 3.0 does. Good Luck, listen to people that have been where your going.
agn5009 wrote:
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to...
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to install?
Yes everything you need. You'll be happy with it. Take your time on the first ride if its on a four stroke you will have no engine braking. Once you get use to it you'll have a hard time going back.
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3/1/2017 9:02pm
I can't chirp about the core exp 3.0 enough. One of the best mods I've ever done to a trail bike.
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3/1/2017 9:04pm
vetmxr wrote:
If you ride more than 5 times a year and are at all serious about your hobby and think you want a rekluse....... Take my word...
If you ride more than 5 times a year and are at all serious about your hobby and think you want a rekluse....... Take my word for it, DO NOT BUY ANY THING BUT THE CORE 3.0,......if you do buy the cheaper set up it won't work as well, the bike may creep, slip and the clutch lever is always fiddlestring tight if i remember right, and you'll have to sell it on ebay for 1/2 the money and then you will buy the expensive set up that works like butter in every way and you'll be out time and money, I own a few rekluses and would not even consider anyone but the 3.0......If you can't afford it, save money until you can, its that much better than the rest, plus more reliable too in my opinion.

By the way.....I cheapened out on the first one I bought for a rm 250 I turned into a woods bike.......within hours of riding it I knew I made a mistake and bought the 3.0.....perfect so far. The other styles do not feel or work like the stock clutch, only the core 3.0 does. Good Luck, listen to people that have been where your going.
agn5009 wrote:
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to...
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to install?
Fog 25 wrote:
Yes everything you need. You'll be happy with it. Take your time on the first ride if its on a four stroke you will have no...
Yes everything you need. You'll be happy with it. Take your time on the first ride if its on a four stroke you will have no engine braking. Once you get use to it you'll have a hard time going back.
What? Yes you do still get engine braking. Only when you lock up the rear wheel like a spud is when the clutch will engage and you will free wheel.
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3/1/2017 11:39pm
agn5009 wrote:
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to...
Thanks. I'm definitely going to go with the core 3.0. Does it come with absolutely everything needed? I can literally buy it and it's ready to install?
Fog 25 wrote:
Yes everything you need. You'll be happy with it. Take your time on the first ride if its on a four stroke you will have no...
Yes everything you need. You'll be happy with it. Take your time on the first ride if its on a four stroke you will have no engine braking. Once you get use to it you'll have a hard time going back.
tobz wrote:
What? Yes you do still get engine braking. Only when you lock up the rear wheel like a spud is when the clutch will engage and...
What? Yes you do still get engine braking. Only when you lock up the rear wheel like a spud is when the clutch will engage and you will free wheel.
This.

With the Core 3.0 the clutch is engaged at all times until the revs drop to nothing, or when you pull the clutch lever (obviously).
3/2/2017 1:11am
I ran the Core Exp on my 2011 RMZ450. I found on a wet very slick track, a lag in clutch engagement, became evident, which made it really difficult to ride and correct when you got out of shape, apart from that I like it.
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Love my Core 3.0. I jokingly call my bike a PW450 Wink (and that's about how fast I am anymore...lol)
agn5009
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3/20/2017 3:08pm
Does anyone know anywhere offering any decent deals on the rekluses? I live in PA, but will purchase from online within the USA.

I've finally decided to pull the trigger on the Core exp 3.0.
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I spent a fair bit of time reading up on these and asking around. First of all, their website kind of sucks. Really hard to figure what exactly each kit is all about. But you already knew that or this thread wouldn't be here.

From what I found, EXP is the Auto clutch disc only and you have to take out two stock plates to fit it, hence potential slippage and stiffer clutch Springs to offset this result in stiffer clutch pull. Fine for easy trail riding or beginners.

Radius is that plus some skinny clutch plates, I believe with stock Springs since the skinny plates mean you can fit the same number as stock. Better for harder riding, but maybe not hardcore racing.

Core EXP is the Auto clutch plus everything you need to keep the stock number of stock clutch plates. So includes bigger clutch cover and different internal parts. Give her hell, it should hold up fine.
3/20/2017 10:34pm Edited Date/Time 3/21/2017 4:39am
The thing I have been finding in this feed is that the core exp 3.0 is the clear winner for just about anybody who has commented. The question though still remains and is still at large is has anyone used or had THE NEW RADIUS X CLUTCH to give any feedback. Also have they had the core exp 3.o prior to the radius x in order give a proper opinion.
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3/21/2017 2:09am
mx617 wrote:
I spent a fair bit of time reading up on these and asking around. First of all, their website kind of sucks. Really hard to figure...
I spent a fair bit of time reading up on these and asking around. First of all, their website kind of sucks. Really hard to figure what exactly each kit is all about. But you already knew that or this thread wouldn't be here.

From what I found, EXP is the Auto clutch disc only and you have to take out two stock plates to fit it, hence potential slippage and stiffer clutch Springs to offset this result in stiffer clutch pull. Fine for easy trail riding or beginners.

Radius is that plus some skinny clutch plates, I believe with stock Springs since the skinny plates mean you can fit the same number as stock. Better for harder riding, but maybe not hardcore racing.

Core EXP is the Auto clutch plus everything you need to keep the stock number of stock clutch plates. So includes bigger clutch cover and different internal parts. Give her hell, it should hold up fine.
I had the same issue. You'd think rekluse would tidy up their naming of products, it's a real turn off when your trying to make a decision on which one to but, or they could make the difference between the products more clearer. I'm still not sure why they'd muck around with the cheaper auto clutches if they're rubbish. It's exp 3.0 or its nuttin.
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3/21/2017 5:07am
I have a Rekluse Core 3.0 in my yz250f. It's really awesome in tight woods and wet rocky hills. You wont regret it. I got mine from rockymountain for $800 after the RM bucks.
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3/21/2017 6:10am
The previous owner put a zstart pro in my kx450. I havent seen any slipping issues like others are saying. Im not sure how the old owner has it set up with the springs you can get for it. All i know is the effortless lever pull is probably the best invention for a dirtbike ever. That alone makes me want to put one in every bike i buy.
JamieKeefer
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5/7/2017 4:37pm Edited Date/Time 5/7/2017 4:59pm
The thing I have been finding in this feed is that the core exp 3.0 is the clear winner for just about anybody who has commented...
The thing I have been finding in this feed is that the core exp 3.0 is the clear winner for just about anybody who has commented. The question though still remains and is still at large is has anyone used or had THE NEW RADIUS X CLUTCH to give any feedback. Also have they had the core exp 3.o prior to the radius x in order give a proper opinion.
I think I am in the same boat as you. I can not find any reviews for RadiusX versus the Core EXP 3.0. Obviously for the extra $300 you get a cover because the stack is larger, as well as some other internal pieces.

To me the more compact design with the Torq Drive, supposed longer life (although proprietary) clutch stack components, lower operating temperatures - that all adds up.

Previous exp didn't have enough friction, they added to stack and employed a custom larger clutch cover to accommodate. Using thinner torq drive solved the problem another way, perhaps a better way.

It seems the RadiusX is a more thought out design on the surface, however, does it work as good or better than the Core EXP 3.0?

I am trying to decide for a 15 KX450F - the stalling in tight, rutted scrambles has to end one way or another. Smile

EDIT: Just watched this video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCvV3Psyhn8

Seems like the RadiusX is the way to go: Lighter clutch pull, no clutch creep due to aluminum expansion...to name a couple things.
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5/29/2017 6:07pm
PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCvV3Psyhn8

Much of the info in this thread is incorrect. The Radius X is the TOP LINE product. I know it's less money, but watch the video and you will understand that the Core EXP 3.0 CANNOT be upgraded to a Radius X. The only way the EXP 3.0 might make more sense is if you need to replace certain parts of your OEM clutch. But even then, I think they might recommend replacing the OEM parts and getting a Radius X. If you are just a poser, you might want the EXP 3.0 because you do get a different cover. If that's all you want, you deserve to pay more for an inferior result. As an aside, DON'T advise people if you don't really know the answer. I hope this thread has not caused anyone to buy a 3.0 over a Radius X except for the odd exceptional reason.
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I'm selling my 3.0 kit for an 02-17 yz250...brand new friction discs $225...I live in nor cal
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5/29/2017 7:31pm
Doctor P wrote:
PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCvV3Psyhn8 Much of the info in this thread is incorrect. The Radius X is the TOP LINE product. I know it's less...
PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCvV3Psyhn8

Much of the info in this thread is incorrect. The Radius X is the TOP LINE product. I know it's less money, but watch the video and you will understand that the Core EXP 3.0 CANNOT be upgraded to a Radius X. The only way the EXP 3.0 might make more sense is if you need to replace certain parts of your OEM clutch. But even then, I think they might recommend replacing the OEM parts and getting a Radius X. If you are just a poser, you might want the EXP 3.0 because you do get a different cover. If that's all you want, you deserve to pay more for an inferior result. As an aside, DON'T advise people if you don't really know the answer. I hope this thread has not caused anyone to buy a 3.0 over a Radius X except for the odd exceptional reason.
Great video, thanks for sharing! That clears up a lot.

I have the Core EXP 3.0 on a 350exc. I love it & I won't own another bike without one now. I ride off-road w/ a little dualsport mixed in. It makes any bike easier to ride & especially a bike w/ a lot of power. I had a yz450f (Z-Start Pro) before my 350exc & it was set up for woods only. That bike was so easy to ride & it was very manageable in the tight stuff. It helps smooth out that jerky 450 power & stalling so you don't get worn out so easy. I liked the Z-start Pro because the clutch pull was so easy. It actually felt like the cable was broken until the bike hit a certain rpm & then it would firm up some. I could use 1 finger all day without getting any fatigue in my hand & that was great for HS's. The Core 3.0 in my 350 has a normal clutch pull.

With that being said, I can't say enough good things about Rekluse & their customer service. Ill be a customer for life.

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