First ride with Pod knee brace questions

Red7
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I recently bought a pair of Pod K300 braces in size M and rode with them for the time on a supercross track last night. I went into it figuring they'd take some getting used which they did. Simple things such as starting the bike and shifting were awkward and my legs were so much more tired after each session from either reduced blood flow or just additional effort needed for everything. I have strong legs from skiing and MTB but my legs felt a little like my forearms do the first time back riding after a hiatus. I'm sure that's a conditioning thing that I'll get used to but I missed several shifts into 3rd for triples out of corners and had to back off and double it last minute.

However, what I'm not sure I'll get used to is the pain from the braces pressing on the sides of my knees. I measured and I'm right at the upper end of the medium (114 mm width) and I have fairly skinny calves and lower quads so the medium fits good and is comfortable everywhere but where the 2 pads push on the sides of the knees. Pressing the knee brace into place it's tight enough that the braces will stay in place without any straps just by the tight fit of those 2 round pads on sides of my knee.

Should they be that tight? Is that normal and the pads and fiberglass will break in and form to that area so that they aren't as painful? They weren't super painful riding (or at least I didn't notice it as much while intently focused on not crashing) but standing or sitting in the chair between motos, I really wanted to get them off.

I'm a Vet rider and don't race so I'm really weighing the pros of protecting my knees vs the discomfort and concern that missing shifts and being generally less comfortable on the bike could cause me to crash in a situation where I wouldn't without the braces. I'm sure I'll get more comfortable upshifting with the braces but I did have a few close calls where I missed the shift right before a triple and it was sketchy. I've made it though playing football, skiing bumps my whole life and riding dirt bikes without any knee injures so I'm wondering if the added protection of the braces is worth the negatives. I'm really on the fence about returning them since I don't race any more and am never pushing it too hard during practice. Thanks guys!
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Camp332
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3/16/2017 7:28am
I suggest to never skip leg day, and get a size up. The tightness on your knees sounds a bit much.

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RPM68
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3/16/2017 7:32am Edited Date/Time 3/16/2017 7:32am
Riding became easier for me, gripping the bike took so much less effort. I feel more locked in on the bike while cornering, or when the bike is angled.

I am a skinny dude and wear Mediums, so like mentioned above, they're probably too tight.
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3/16/2017 7:58am
I found they run slightly small
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3/16/2017 8:37am
I've been wearing the medium K300s for a couple years now. In the first month or two, I had similar pain at the same place as you, but it's no longer an issue. I think the braces wore in a bit where the hinges pivot, and freed up some space. Be sure to play with the pivot point pads (there are black and red pads, one color is thinner than the other), double check their orientation, etc. If the fit is tight, that's a good thing, and in my experience, the pain issue cleared up.

As far as shifting, etc, I much prefer wearing the braces over not, because like RPM68 mentioned above, gripping the bike becomes much more positive. However, I'm standing 90% of the time while riding. If one sat more than stood while riding, I could see how they could be a bit of a hindrance.

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chris225
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3/16/2017 11:12am
Pods run small. I'm not a very big guy, 5'7 170 and I have to wear my larges with no pads on the sides
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3/16/2017 11:18am
I have a much more difficult time gripping the bike with my knee braces, especially
standing accelerating up an incline. This puts my knees on the tank, and its plastic hinge on plastic
tank.
Like ice. So I slide backwards and only have my arms to hang on.

I know I know, don't skip leg day.

Looking to get some soft grip tape from my tank & shrouds.
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3/16/2017 11:58am
Red7, I had the exact same issue with my PODS and was that unhappy that I contacted the manufacturer to check their recommended sizing guide and ask how tight their braces should be, POD were really helpful and sent out a smaller sized pad kit free of charge, it replaced all the pads including the two either side of the knee with thinner versions, they also said a tighter fitting knee brace provides a safer brace.
Just to be sure I went and tried a pair of large braces on and you were right the thigh area felt a bit too big.

Did you wear something under your braces?
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3/16/2017 12:58pm
Camp332 wrote:
I suggest to never skip leg day, and get a size up. The tightness on your knees sounds a bit much.

yeah I agree ^^^^^ I've been running those braces for at least two seasons and have never had any of the symptoms you describe. My only complaint is I wish the patella cup was a little stronger or more rigid.
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3/16/2017 1:07pm
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Tested them on a supercross track

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James Stewart making a comeback on a honda confirmed... Title sponsor- Pod knee braces
3/16/2017 1:27pm
Can't help you on sizing but i can't tell you, i myself wont ride without braces on. I find i can grip the bike harder and as others have said lock into the bike better cornering etc without banging my knees up on the frame. Ive run asterisk previously and the pods are lighter and less bulky. However i will be going to another brand of brace. I hate the pod straps, either they catch on my pants and come loose or they dig in to my calves. Also having to rebuild the hinge , im not a fan of that.

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3/16/2017 1:57pm
Go a size up. I've had pods since 13 in a med with legs that make big bird look like the rock. I had to remove the side pads and wear under armour tights to keep Velcro from irritating my skin.
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3/16/2017 2:02pm
They were irritating at first but barely know they are on now and won't ride without them. Before pods Had asterisk for 2 rides and tossed them in corner. Preferred to ride with knee cups.
Red7
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3/16/2017 7:50pm
Thanks for the all the info guys! I really think medium is the right size as they fit my calves and quads nice and snug and my concern with larges would be that they'd rotate around more on my legs. I'm nearly positive I tried on both medium and large at the store but I think it was the 400 or other model as they didn't have the K300 in stock. I am using the thinner of the 2 pads that came with them but will contact Pod to see if they make even smaller. Or maybe I'll glue fuzzy Velcro there to provide a little cushion as they fit better without the pads but I'd be really concerned of having hard plastic right against my bone in the event of a crash. I'm wearing them or Asterisk knee socks so the straps didn't bother me at all.

I don't get how some of you feel more connected to the bike because I could grip the bike much better without hard plastic rubbing against plastic but it wasn't so bad that I couldn't adjust. Plus I've heard once you get used to braces you feel naked without them. They do make the quads and hamstrings work a lot harder though because my quads are sore today. I guess I just need to grow a pair and get used to them.
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3/16/2017 7:54pm
rmoto003 wrote:
Username Red7

Tested them on a supercross track

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James Stewart making a comeback on a honda confirmed... Title sponsor- Pod knee braces
That's funny! I live close and fly over his compound (as well as Reed's) regularly but I'm not a big fan and my skills on a bike are probably closer to Big James than JS7. I would like to see Mookie get a good result though.

Thanks again for the help everyone!
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3/16/2017 7:58pm
Mine hurt so bad I sent them back and got another pair of asterisk.
Red7
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3/16/2017 8:03pm
Damn, I just tried them on again and didn't realize how bruised the sides of my knees are. Even without the pads on they are painful. I imagine they would break in some but I'm going to have to find a large to compare.
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3/17/2017 1:26am
Red7, Its funny how exactly the same I felt as you are right now. How many hours did you wear them for?
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3/17/2017 4:36am
I use the 400's and they do run tight around the knee in comparison to the rest of the brace.
I put the thinnest pads in and they were still tight. After a few rides I don't even notice them. I don't know whether they wore in or I just got used to them.
The only time they annoy me is when I kick start the bike.
Red7
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3/17/2017 9:22am
Rigs wrote:
Red7, Its funny how exactly the same I felt as you are right now. How many hours did you wear them for?
I had them on for 4 hours (about 3.5 more than I wanted them on). It's good to hear other people went through this and the pain went away. Width wise I'm on the high end of the Medium size chart but circumference I'm right in the middle so Medium should be the ones. I'm going to call WPS and see what they say.

I'm currently breaking in a new pair of racing ski boots and it always amazes me how you can go from something so painful that your feet can only handle about 5 minutes in, to something so comfortable after skiing in them a few times, that it would surprise me if the medium are the right size and the braces will be comfortable after a few rides. With ski boots, if they are comfortable the first few times you put them on then they are WAY too big as the shells and liners break in.
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3/17/2017 9:59am
I had to go to XL and I'm not that big of a dude. My biggest complaint is the straps sack out so quickly. After a handful of rides they were falling apart and the braces start slipping which makes them uncomfortable as hell...........
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11/2/2021 6:24pm Edited Date/Time 11/2/2021 6:25pm
I know this is an old thread but I came across it when I was looking for similar info re sizing, so I thought I'd add what I have found out as it may be helpful for someone.

I was looking to get the K4 2.0 (latest version of the one the OP refers to) and was at the very upper end of the xs/s size (5mm within the upper size limit), so I ordered both xs/s and m/l so I could try them on and figure which to get. The xs/s I could feel a slight pressure on the sides of the knee that I was concerned would get progressively worse so I dropped POD customer service a line with some questions. I was expecting a generic reply but instead I got an actual call back from Australia, I'm pretty sure it was the guy that actually does the sizing video on YouTube. He mentioned doing fittings so he certainly knows his stuff. Here's a summary of the info he provided:
- The m/l frame is only 10mm wider than the xs/s so going up a size if in doubt will not negatively affect the protection provided.
- You should use the different sized pads provided so the hinge is just comfortably touching the sides of the knee to provide maximum protection. He also suggested using a thicker one on one side than the other if your knee shape required it. There are also velcro shims provided so you can adjust the angle the pads fit on (the pads are thicker at the front than the back to accommodate the triangular shape of the knee)
- The foam in the braces is closed cell foam (so as not to breed bacteria), which means it doesn't break down like open cell foam, and therefore WILL NOT ease up/break in over time - you need to get the fit right from the word go.
- Ensure the strap below the knee is done up so that it rests above (is angled up and over) the calf just below the crease behind the knee - this is what prevents it falling down. The top strap is what prevents hyperextending of the knee.

It was quite reassuring to hear him say definitely to go for the larger size, and to drop them a line if I ever have any further queries. I was pretty impressed with the customer service!
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