Looking for a CAREER! not a 9-5.

TSCHAM101
Profile picture for user TSCHAM101
Posts
1064
Joined
12/7/2015
Location
Norco, CA, USA
TSCHAM101 2/18/2017 11:12pm
2/18/2017 11:12pm
racerx217 wrote:
go to college.....
mwssquad827 wrote:
Go to school and get a job!!!
Race local. Because you love the sport
fucking millenials!!
Some of these posts are just comical, most work jobs that do not provide the life they want. So they try to ruin somebody else's.. completely ridiculous!

Go for it, the guys who usually make it are the ones who don't have a back up plan, just saying
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 5:26am
2/19/2017 5:26am
mwssquad827 wrote:
Go to school and get a job!!!
Race local. Because you love the sport
fucking millenials!!
Assuming college is about 20 grand to more per year. Would you sponsor my college fund? Because that cost the same money my motocross "DREAM" would need.
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 5:29am
2/19/2017 5:29am
TSCHAM101 wrote:
Some of these posts are just comical, most work jobs that do not provide the life they want. So they try to ruin somebody else's.. completely...
Some of these posts are just comical, most work jobs that do not provide the life they want. So they try to ruin somebody else's.. completely ridiculous!

Go for it, the guys who usually make it are the ones who don't have a back up plan, just saying
Because there is no need for a back up plan. When you know there is something you want to do there is a way of doing it. not everyone has to work a 9-5. I don't believe he actually read what I had written! Thank you for your imput!
305FC250
Profile picture for user 305FC250
Posts
428
Joined
9/18/2016
Location
Miami, FL, USA
305FC250 2/19/2017 5:33am
2/19/2017 5:33am
Can't believe the amount of fucking clowns on here telling a 20 year old to give up on a dream like he's got no time left to go to school and get a normal job. College isn't going anywhere, he can pursue his passions now and still decide to go to college anytime he wants.

The Shop

See All »
GoldenKTM
Profile picture for user GoldenKTM
Posts
164
Joined
1/29/2017
Location
USA
GoldenKTM 2/19/2017 9:36am
2/19/2017 9:36am
Jwally223 wrote:
Assuming college is about 20 grand to more per year. Would you sponsor my college fund? Because that cost the same money my motocross "DREAM" would...
Assuming college is about 20 grand to more per year. Would you sponsor my college fund? Because that cost the same money my motocross "DREAM" would need.
The longer gap you have between high school and college the harder it becomes to finish college. Older students have a much more difficult time adapting to the lifestyle and culture of a university or even a tech school. A high school diploma is becoming more and more useless as technology advances and jobs are becoming more technology focused.

A college degree is a permanent investment in yourself that you will have forever. 20,000 dollars for a college education is not equivalent to 20,000 dollars spent on a motorcycle hobby.
motomojo
Profile picture for user motomojo
Posts
507
Joined
12/3/2015
Location
Kingman, AZ, USA
motomojo 2/19/2017 9:53am
2/19/2017 9:53am
Jwally223 wrote:
Assuming college is about 20 grand to more per year. Would you sponsor my college fund? Because that cost the same money my motocross "DREAM" would...
Assuming college is about 20 grand to more per year. Would you sponsor my college fund? Because that cost the same money my motocross "DREAM" would need.
GoldenKTM wrote:
The longer gap you have between high school and college the harder it becomes to finish college. Older students have a much more difficult time adapting...
The longer gap you have between high school and college the harder it becomes to finish college. Older students have a much more difficult time adapting to the lifestyle and culture of a university or even a tech school. A high school diploma is becoming more and more useless as technology advances and jobs are becoming more technology focused.

A college degree is a permanent investment in yourself that you will have forever. 20,000 dollars for a college education is not equivalent to 20,000 dollars spent on a motorcycle hobby.
Now i have heard it all you are not listening this kid is way smarter than you give him credit.
He wants no part of adapting to the lifestyle and culture of any bullshit take your money teach you nothing university of today churning out robots to continue the corporate culture of continued domination of society.

Jwally223 just ignore people like this they hate that you have a mind of your own and think for yourself. These are the losers in life you will want to keep your distance.
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 9:57am
2/19/2017 9:57am
GoldenKTM wrote:
The longer gap you have between high school and college the harder it becomes to finish college. Older students have a much more difficult time adapting...
The longer gap you have between high school and college the harder it becomes to finish college. Older students have a much more difficult time adapting to the lifestyle and culture of a university or even a tech school. A high school diploma is becoming more and more useless as technology advances and jobs are becoming more technology focused.

A college degree is a permanent investment in yourself that you will have forever. 20,000 dollars for a college education is not equivalent to 20,000 dollars spent on a motorcycle hobby.
Now, What if that $20,000 helped me to the point of making this hobby that everyone in the moto community started with, into a solid job? I bet Ken Roczen or Eli Tomac first jumped on a dirtbike and people told them that they should go to college and get a real job because a dream in not a reality? Guess what everyone has an idea for how they want to live. If I want to go to college when I am 28 years old, the 20 thousand spent will grant me a permanent degree i will do that. Anything is able to be overcame. I will make a career in the moto scene. No going to college and getting a boring ass desk job for me!
GoldenKTM
Profile picture for user GoldenKTM
Posts
164
Joined
1/29/2017
Location
USA
GoldenKTM 2/19/2017 10:10am
2/19/2017 10:10am
Jwally223 wrote:
Now, What if that $20,000 helped me to the point of making this hobby that everyone in the moto community started with, into a solid job...
Now, What if that $20,000 helped me to the point of making this hobby that everyone in the moto community started with, into a solid job? I bet Ken Roczen or Eli Tomac first jumped on a dirtbike and people told them that they should go to college and get a real job because a dream in not a reality? Guess what everyone has an idea for how they want to live. If I want to go to college when I am 28 years old, the 20 thousand spent will grant me a permanent degree i will do that. Anything is able to be overcame. I will make a career in the moto scene. No going to college and getting a boring ass desk job for me!
You are not Ken Roczen or Eli Tomac. You are Jwally223. Hypothetical scenarios about becoming one of the fastest .00001% of riders in the world are not valuable.

What evidence do you have that you trying to qualify for AX races are productive to you getting a job you are passionate about in the Moto industry? I have yet to see any concrete evidence that you are taking steps towards your end goal. I am seeing lots of talk about dreams and "what ifs" but that only gets you so far.

And the end result of advancing your education is not getting a "boring ass desk job". Most of the people I have graduated with do not have boring desk jobs because these boring, repetitive jobs are a waste of human capital.
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 10:27am
2/19/2017 10:27am
GoldenKTM wrote:
You are not Ken Roczen or Eli Tomac. You are Jwally223. Hypothetical scenarios about becoming one of the fastest .00001% of riders in the world are...
You are not Ken Roczen or Eli Tomac. You are Jwally223. Hypothetical scenarios about becoming one of the fastest .00001% of riders in the world are not valuable.

What evidence do you have that you trying to qualify for AX races are productive to you getting a job you are passionate about in the Moto industry? I have yet to see any concrete evidence that you are taking steps towards your end goal. I am seeing lots of talk about dreams and "what ifs" but that only gets you so far.

And the end result of advancing your education is not getting a "boring ass desk job". Most of the people I have graduated with do not have boring desk jobs because these boring, repetitive jobs are a waste of human capital.
What evidence do you need? Because I am not sure If I have mislead anyone, if I did I am sorry. I am pretty sure I wrote on this forum is nothing about being a factory rider, or the fastest .00001% of the riders in the world. I was wondering if I should keep trying to meet a personal goal of going pro, and if not, If there were any jobs driving a rig for a privateer or a professional team. And If you were late this forum, I got the chance to race AX with Team Dirtbike Mike. No its not what I planned on. But I figured I might as well Update the people who backed me up and told me I should take the experience of a lifetime. But Thank you for your imput GoldenKTM. I appreciate the words of wisdom.But still, can college get me a career in the moto scene?
F.B
Profile picture for user F.B
Posts
853
Joined
7/10/2011
Location
FR
F.B 2/19/2017 10:34am
2/19/2017 10:34am
Jwally223 wrote:
Now, What if that $20,000 helped me to the point of making this hobby that everyone in the moto community started with, into a solid job...
Now, What if that $20,000 helped me to the point of making this hobby that everyone in the moto community started with, into a solid job? I bet Ken Roczen or Eli Tomac first jumped on a dirtbike and people told them that they should go to college and get a real job because a dream in not a reality? Guess what everyone has an idea for how they want to live. If I want to go to college when I am 28 years old, the 20 thousand spent will grant me a permanent degree i will do that. Anything is able to be overcame. I will make a career in the moto scene. No going to college and getting a boring ass desk job for me!
Do what you have to do to make it then. Don't show up to AX races unprepared / riding a bike with bone stock suspension...
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 10:39am
2/19/2017 10:39am
F.B wrote:
Do what you have to do to make it then. Don't show up to AX races unprepared / riding a bike with bone stock suspension...
I was sponsored by a man who gave me a brand new 2016 sxf 250. I did not have the money to get suspension. Nor was I going to ask this man to put out more than he already gave to me. I was blessed with the opportunity.
JWACK
Profile picture for user JWACK
Posts
2577
Joined
8/7/2009
Location
USA
JWACK 2/19/2017 11:13am
2/19/2017 11:13am
No need to defend yourself Jeremy. You won't win the opinions of some of these folks who didn't have a dream or follow up on one. You made it dude! Literally someone gave you a ride and you showed up and did it. No excuses, on a tight budget and little time to prep.. Did you win? No. So what, who cares.? Did you see what it's all about? Yes Did you follow your dream? Hells yes. Because you did you won't have regrets later in life and be wishing you would have gave it a shot.
Signed,
A fan.
miketherider 2/19/2017 12:09pm
2/19/2017 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 2/19/2017 12:10pm
I'd recommend looking into a tech or vocational field. Know lots of electricians, linemen, welders and more that find plenty of time to ride/race and still make a good living. Like anything else, you'll have to start at the bottom and work your way up. I teach a local course in CAD design/CNC machining/3D printing with a lot of people in a similar position as you.
GoldenKTM
Profile picture for user GoldenKTM
Posts
164
Joined
1/29/2017
Location
USA
GoldenKTM 2/19/2017 12:10pm
2/19/2017 12:10pm
Jwally223 wrote:
What evidence do you need? Because I am not sure If I have mislead anyone, if I did I am sorry. I am pretty sure I...
What evidence do you need? Because I am not sure If I have mislead anyone, if I did I am sorry. I am pretty sure I wrote on this forum is nothing about being a factory rider, or the fastest .00001% of the riders in the world. I was wondering if I should keep trying to meet a personal goal of going pro, and if not, If there were any jobs driving a rig for a privateer or a professional team. And If you were late this forum, I got the chance to race AX with Team Dirtbike Mike. No its not what I planned on. But I figured I might as well Update the people who backed me up and told me I should take the experience of a lifetime. But Thank you for your imput GoldenKTM. I appreciate the words of wisdom.But still, can college get me a career in the moto scene?
I might be being too much of a jerk. If I did come off like that I'm sorry. When I think of jobs in the industry I think of jobs like this. http://www.ktm.com/careers-na Most of these jobs are going to be white collar style jobs and an education is often the first filter for people. All brands are going to have stuff like this. I remember seeing a tour of TLD KTM headquarters and for every blue collar guy there seemed to be a conference room full of suits. Or at least the moto version of a suit.

I reread your post about the AX experience and I want to let you know how cool that is.
500guy
Profile picture for user 500guy
Posts
12469
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
USA
500guy 2/19/2017 12:16pm
2/19/2017 12:16pm
Jwally223 wrote:
I was sponsored by a man who gave me a brand new 2016 sxf 250. I did not have the money to get suspension. Nor was...
I was sponsored by a man who gave me a brand new 2016 sxf 250. I did not have the money to get suspension. Nor was I going to ask this man to put out more than he already gave to me. I was blessed with the opportunity.
You are young, Chase that dream a while longer, do the best you can with what you have.

You will know when it's time to change direction.
motomojo
Profile picture for user motomojo
Posts
507
Joined
12/3/2015
Location
Kingman, AZ, USA
motomojo 2/19/2017 3:28pm
2/19/2017 3:28pm
Jeremy have you thought of racing a different pro AX series. The Kicker Motorsports Arena Cross series runs out west a summer and winter series as well as others.
http://www.cyclecitypromotions.com/schedule

A young Pro from Vegas Travis Pitt who comes down to my track to practice races this series in the 250 and open pro classes and in the current winter series is killing it leading both classes to this point in the series.
They pay a decent purse and the races cover OK, NM, CO, CA, and UT, so travel is not huge.

If this is something you may be interested in doing i would be happy to provide you with a place to stay and a track to practice on during whichever series you may choose to ride.
I am in Northwest AZ so an easy drive to all of these neighboring states.
Lunch_Box
Profile picture for user Lunch_Box
Posts
238
Joined
6/20/2016
Location
Edmonton, Alberta, CA
Lunch_Box 2/19/2017 4:06pm
2/19/2017 4:06pm
End of the day you are still young and have lots of time to figure out what you want to do if it ends up being something outside of the moto industry. I went to university right out of high school for mechanical engineering and got my ass kicked. High school was easy for me and I put in little effort, went to university with the same mentality and it didn't work. Worked random jobs for a few years and then started working a job that I really enjoyed, working as a fabricator in a car performance shop. Got to use my imagination and tig weld all sorts of custom parts. It was fun. But when oil tanked in 2008 the shop had to close its doors and I was kind of left unsure what to do. My skill asset was a hobby and it wasn't something I could fall back on. So at 26 I decided to go back to school and finish off my engineering. My current job I don't use my schooling but it got my foot in the door to get to where I am at today. No its not my dream job but its hard to complain with the money I make and only working 6 months of the year.

Pit Row

See All »
cd0583
Profile picture for user cd0583
Posts
214
Joined
3/10/2014
Location
LA, CA, USA
cd0583 2/19/2017 6:01pm
2/19/2017 6:01pm
Wow, never imagined so much negativity on this post. It's unbelievable. First things first. You gotta make moves. Whether it's location, financials, etc. whatever. Make a move. Second. Grind. Get out of your comfort zone, push yourself past all these average folks's thinking and the status quo. Third. Relentless consistency, Progress in whatever it is you are doing every day. No excuses. Tunnel vision on the prize. You're young as hell still. By the time you're 30, i'd start thinking about alternative solutions. Until then, get after it kid.
gt80rider
Profile picture for user gt80rider
Posts
7050
Joined
4/19/2008
Location
Boulder, CO, USA
gt80rider 2/19/2017 6:10pm
2/19/2017 6:10pm
Hey kid, you are super stoked and have giant balls for posting on here. Good for you, don't let all the @sshats on here change that. Go big, go hard, make Big mistakes, then Learn from them. Best of luck to you with however your next few years turn out like. Just don't be lame, or boring, or a poser.
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 7:10pm
2/19/2017 7:10pm
motomojo wrote:
Jeremy have you thought of racing a different pro AX series. The Kicker Motorsports Arena Cross series runs out west a summer and winter series as...
Jeremy have you thought of racing a different pro AX series. The Kicker Motorsports Arena Cross series runs out west a summer and winter series as well as others.
http://www.cyclecitypromotions.com/schedule

A young Pro from Vegas Travis Pitt who comes down to my track to practice races this series in the 250 and open pro classes and in the current winter series is killing it leading both classes to this point in the series.
They pay a decent purse and the races cover OK, NM, CO, CA, and UT, so travel is not huge.

If this is something you may be interested in doing i would be happy to provide you with a place to stay and a track to practice on during whichever series you may choose to ride.
I am in Northwest AZ so an easy drive to all of these neighboring states.
I have not thought about racing another series. I am from Massachusetts. The only reason why I even raced Arenacross in the first place is because of the opportunity I was given. I would love to race them, but the lack of funds would hinder me from competing.
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 7:14pm
2/19/2017 7:14pm
Lunch_Box wrote:
End of the day you are still young and have lots of time to figure out what you want to do if it ends up being...
End of the day you are still young and have lots of time to figure out what you want to do if it ends up being something outside of the moto industry. I went to university right out of high school for mechanical engineering and got my ass kicked. High school was easy for me and I put in little effort, went to university with the same mentality and it didn't work. Worked random jobs for a few years and then started working a job that I really enjoyed, working as a fabricator in a car performance shop. Got to use my imagination and tig weld all sorts of custom parts. It was fun. But when oil tanked in 2008 the shop had to close its doors and I was kind of left unsure what to do. My skill asset was a hobby and it wasn't something I could fall back on. So at 26 I decided to go back to school and finish off my engineering. My current job I don't use my schooling but it got my foot in the door to get to where I am at today. No its not my dream job but its hard to complain with the money I make and only working 6 months of the year.
I have been a commercial Fisherman for about 5 years. I have worked countless hours, busting my ass. I have worked in the construction field. I was an apprentice Electrician. I have worked for the county I live in on a dredge barge, dredging out harbors and channels. I have worked at a local hardware store, a burrito restaurant making burritos. I do believe If nothing it the moto scene works for me. Yes I have stuff to fall back on. I am not just a kid trying to ride and not work. Not that you are saying that, but others are.
Lunch_Box
Profile picture for user Lunch_Box
Posts
238
Joined
6/20/2016
Location
Edmonton, Alberta, CA
Lunch_Box 2/19/2017 7:21pm
2/19/2017 7:21pm
Jwally223 wrote:
I have been a commercial Fisherman for about 5 years. I have worked countless hours, busting my ass. I have worked in the construction field. I...
I have been a commercial Fisherman for about 5 years. I have worked countless hours, busting my ass. I have worked in the construction field. I was an apprentice Electrician. I have worked for the county I live in on a dredge barge, dredging out harbors and channels. I have worked at a local hardware store, a burrito restaurant making burritos. I do believe If nothing it the moto scene works for me. Yes I have stuff to fall back on. I am not just a kid trying to ride and not work. Not that you are saying that, but others are.
Not what I was trying to say at all. Just saying you are still young and have lots of time to figure out what you want to do with your life if you decide for it to be something outside of the moto world. I was in my mid to late 20's before I finally sorted my shit out. So if this is what you want to do, give it 110% for the next while then re-evaluate and see where you stand. From there you can keep going with it or decide its time to find a different career.
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 7:21pm
2/19/2017 7:21pm
gt80rider wrote:
Hey kid, you are super stoked and have giant balls for posting on here. Good for you, don't let all the @sshats on here change that...
Hey kid, you are super stoked and have giant balls for posting on here. Good for you, don't let all the @sshats on here change that. Go big, go hard, make Big mistakes, then Learn from them. Best of luck to you with however your next few years turn out like. Just don't be lame, or boring, or a poser.
Thanks man! I'm pushing to better myself daily! I will do my best!
Jwally223
Profile picture for user Jwally223
Posts
40
Joined
11/28/2016
Location
Sagamore, MA, USA
Jwally223 2/19/2017 7:23pm
2/19/2017 7:23pm
cd0583 wrote:
Wow, never imagined so much negativity on this post. It's unbelievable. First things first. You gotta make moves. Whether it's location, financials, etc. whatever. Make a...
Wow, never imagined so much negativity on this post. It's unbelievable. First things first. You gotta make moves. Whether it's location, financials, etc. whatever. Make a move. Second. Grind. Get out of your comfort zone, push yourself past all these average folks's thinking and the status quo. Third. Relentless consistency, Progress in whatever it is you are doing every day. No excuses. Tunnel vision on the prize. You're young as hell still. By the time you're 30, i'd start thinking about alternative solutions. Until then, get after it kid.
Makes my passion burn even more!
zehn
Profile picture for user zehn
Posts
7886
Joined
1/15/2013
Location
Anchorage, AK, USA
zehn 2/19/2017 7:35pm
2/19/2017 7:35pm
GoldenKTM wrote:
The longer gap you have between high school and college the harder it becomes to finish college. Older students have a much more difficult time adapting...
The longer gap you have between high school and college the harder it becomes to finish college. Older students have a much more difficult time adapting to the lifestyle and culture of a university or even a tech school. A high school diploma is becoming more and more useless as technology advances and jobs are becoming more technology focused.

A college degree is a permanent investment in yourself that you will have forever. 20,000 dollars for a college education is not equivalent to 20,000 dollars spent on a motorcycle hobby.
Meh, I'm about to graduate from a university and program that has a ton of non-typical students. I think taking time off between high school and college is the best thing most students can do. I took 4 years off myself and am about to graduate with very high grades and go to law school. Taking time off allows you to get things in perspective and allows you to grow and mature to the point where you can put your studies first and all the extraneous stuff second. Most 18 year old kids are not ready to do as well as they can right in college right out of high school.
bencurrie17
Profile picture for user bencurrie17
Posts
15
Joined
2/22/2017
Location
Friendswood, TX, USA
bencurrie17 3/1/2017 10:35am
3/1/2017 10:35am
Look at Weston peick. 200lb high school football player. I've watched him since he was paying for racing out of his own pocket. Now look at him on a factory team. Shit getting last place in the 450 LCQ of supercross pays 965$. That will help to get to the next race
Alex814
Profile picture for user Alex814
Posts
1225
Joined
12/18/2014
Location
USA
Alex814 3/1/2017 10:46am
3/1/2017 10:46am
Don't go to college if you want to have money to ride again before you're in your 30s. Unless someone else is paying for the school, of course.
Phillip_Lamb
Profile picture for user Phillip_Lamb
Posts
2074
Joined
12/14/2010
Location
ORANGEVALE, CA, USA
Phillip_Lamb 3/1/2017 11:35am
3/1/2017 11:35am
cd0583 wrote:
Wow, never imagined so much negativity on this post. It's unbelievable. First things first. You gotta make moves. Whether it's location, financials, etc. whatever. Make a...
Wow, never imagined so much negativity on this post. It's unbelievable. First things first. You gotta make moves. Whether it's location, financials, etc. whatever. Make a move. Second. Grind. Get out of your comfort zone, push yourself past all these average folks's thinking and the status quo. Third. Relentless consistency, Progress in whatever it is you are doing every day. No excuses. Tunnel vision on the prize. You're young as hell still. By the time you're 30, i'd start thinking about alternative solutions. Until then, get after it kid.
Jwally223 wrote:
Makes my passion burn even more!
hey, not that this might work for you, but maybe jump on a 250 two stroke. it may not fit your program,'

but

1 it is cheaper to run and race vs a 4 stroke.
2 they inherently have a cult following. which is an instant fan base
3 because of the extra exposure of being the freak at the races you are marketable
being marketable= someone to advertise with which mean sponsorship money.

just look at the old guy running the series on a 250. he has support and he's not even close to qualifying for a race.

If you want to make it in this sport you need to stand out. What can you bring to the table? Results are the best way, but even then that isnt a given.
Bfogg217
Profile picture for user Bfogg217
Posts
73
Joined
1/23/2017
Location
Springdale, AR, USA
Bfogg217 3/1/2017 1:24pm
3/1/2017 1:24pm
It comes across in a mean way but, what I think what most of these guys are saying is that you should be very realistic with yourself. By all means, pursue your dreams, just understand that if it doesn't work out the way you want it to, you'll probably have nothing to show for it. The college education is something that will open doors for you in every industry, even moto, and may give you the opportunity to work and ride for a living (ie everyone who works for BTO, RM etc...). You don't have to give up your dreams to still live a great life, you just have to be realistic and think about the future.

Post a reply to: Looking for a CAREER! not a 9-5.