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Just left our local series opener. Proud of my kid, it just really sucks that kids coming up have to deal with sorry sandbaggers... When your local sandbagger gets stomped by an out of town sandbagger it is really bad lol! I am talking C class here. I may understand if money was involved, but one would think a rider may get tired of winning C class trophies... My son cant wait to move up, he wants to better himself.
When Loretta's produces factory rides for C riders, how can you not point the finger?
Like I said this was the first race and if anything I think it may have made it worse, I give him props for trying. I hope things mellow out as usual after the first race.
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Usually these riders are getting ready to move to the next higher class.
The problem is with riders who race in the lower class beating everyone by a wide margin while scrubbing every jump on the track. Then when these riders near the point total that would force them into the next higher class they switch to "open" class races that aren't advancement classes.
Sandbagging riders will never go away because most of the promoters won't do any thing about them. Even when provided with evidence nothing is done.
Last year at the big amateur race at Pala that was streamed live over the internet they interviewed the winner of the C class after he also won the B/C open class. They asked him how he liked racing with the higher skilled intermediate riders and he said "I race at Glen Helen with the intermediate class all the time so I'm used to it" No one said anything about it and he still races in the C class at all the major races.
The top 10 go basically automatically 5th-10th is depending on the amount of time in the class though. Iff you're a Rookie in the class you're allowed to stay another year.
Age and capacity should be the only way classes are split.
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He might be winning, but he is really losing.
Rename the classes. Shit-can C, B, A classifications and replace with:
* Shitty Rider Class
* Not Quite Good Class
* Pretty Good, but No Pro, Class
Both the Open C and 250C winners in the D14 got advancement letters this year.
I race C class locally and hover around the top 5 most of the time. When I race national events (Baja Brawl) I'm typically around 17th-22nd on a 40 man gate. The top 5 guys are usually so far gone I'm sure with another lap or 2 I would be lapped.
Our local 250C kids are ridiculously fast. By way of example, when I started racing again after a 15 year break I entered 250C and got my ass handed to me. The next year I race the 40B class and sometimes win it, then managed to make it to Loretta's in the 40+ class. I guarantee I would still have my ass handed to me if I could drop down to the 250C class. Those kids are definitely not what I would call beginners lol!
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Simon
i feel like adding that expert class would kinda make basically make the intermediate class the fast C class idk
Then the really fast kids that should be running pro at the local races anyways can sign up as expert
It's no secret that the really fast am guys treat these local races like a sort of practice anyways
B class and not get penalized for AMA events. A is still A class and D is still D.
Yes, once you enter a C class at Lorettas you can not run AMA C class again after that calendar year. We have a friend that made it to 250C last year and was C eligible to then end of 2016. As of 1-1-17 he is officially a "B" rider....
And as much i would love to, i have never seen a Loretta C class in real life.
Or any other Loretta races for that matter, so i'm not really entitled to say how much should move up or how fast those kids really are.
But if you say that those kids run away from you as a winner in the B class of any age or engine size for that part is just stupid.
My opinion on C class at Loretta's:
I understand that these kids have a certain skill level and don't look like RonnieMac on track but they should not be able to beat a top 10 rider in the B class if you can you just don't belong in C it's that simple for me.
Sure the kid probably won't win that much but if they get their feelings hurt they should consider playing ping pong.
I have 3 national championships in 50, 60 and 80cc class but it took me 7 years to get those if i lost i was beat straight up its that simple. I remember as if it was yesterday i got my ass handed the first year in 50cc and did not even made it inside the top 15 on many occasion. I cried like a spoiled punk and my dad used to kick me in the ass and he told me that life is not about participating but winning. I worked my ass of since that day. I do not regret the lessons i learned that year.
The only promoter in Southern California that I've ever seen move a rider to a higher class was Stu Peter's daughter Sondra from CMC
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