Does Dungey Retire after 2017?

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1/30/2017 1:20pm
Yes
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1/30/2017 1:27pm
Skidaddle wrote:
Because he can still walk.
winner winner chicken dinner...............and the wife probably kinda likes that too............Roczen got REALLY lucky........dont think everyone has not been paying attention............Baileys crash destroyed Omaras career, he was never the same after that..............couple guys like Reed still think the risk is worth the reward.........I recall RC saying something to the effect of leaving the table with chips in handCool Cool
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1/30/2017 1:34pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 1:36pm
I think he goes out on top. If not this year, next year for sure. I can see him doing SX next year and select MX rounds and calling it quits. Right now he has everyone covered. Yea other guys can win races, but to beat Dungey's consistency is another story. I can see KR coming back at A1 next year and it taking a minute for him to get back up to speed. I could see Dungey sticking around and podiuming the crap out of 2018 and into another championship.

Also, you have to wonder if he is getting or will get burned out with Baker's training regimen. We've seen it in the past.
1/30/2017 1:41pm
mitchell 8 wrote:
Not just RD seems that most yanks are the same. Don't appreciate there is a world outside the USA. USA haven't won a world championship in...
Not just RD seems that most yanks are the same.

Don't appreciate there is a world outside the USA.

USA haven't won a world championship in MX for god knows how long, and you don't even care.

Pretty sad isn't it.

Flip109 wrote:
It's not that we don't appreciate it. We just never have a big enough dog in the fight. RV was but he went over for money...
It's not that we don't appreciate it. We just never have a big enough dog in the fight. RV was but he went over for money and contracts. If he had his heart set on it. It would have been phenomenal had he healed up and took a few more shots. If Tomac or Dungey went over we would be glued to the GPs. I had not been so excited for mx racing as when RV went over. I was hooked. So don't throw us all in one basket.
I'll shine a light on this subject if thats ok.
There is a reason why we don't get to see many Americans in the world championship and that is simple.
They don't have the time to prove themselves over the course of their amateur careers in Europe which potentially is holding offers back for up and coming riders that do not have a contract set for their Pro debut in the states.
In case they have a very good rider like Adam or Austin they are often already contracted to stream true in the big teams from a very young age between 12-14years max.

Let us say that in order to be successful in Europe you should be used to the GP tracks before you become a pro at 18 years of age preferably.
Thus they would need to ride the EMX championship, less pressure more time to adjust learn quicker because kids learn quicker. Kids that are 16 or younger need to make a huge leap into a world they have never been before adjust to tracks, food, life in general really. Often without parents not knowing if they will succeed and make a decent living.
It has been done before yes but it's highly unlikely for a kid to travel the world on a bag of iff's.

Riders that have been successful in the states before they go to europe, They are on there way out and have made a name for themselves and they get a factory ride straight up and a good pay check. All good but these riders come to sniff the atmosphere and travel the world on a other mans budget it's that simple. AKA they're doing it for there sponsors and finish their career.

The most important reason of them al. PRO ATHLETES that are on the top of their game make MORE MONEY in the USA

The Shop

1/30/2017 1:53pm
Healthy, comfortable bank balance (id imagine), one of the sports greats.....why would you hang around? Realistically he can stay at the same level or head downhill with a lot of hard work behind the scenes, I could fully understand bowing out on top.
1/30/2017 2:02pm
Skidaddle wrote:
I would guess yes unless they pay him record breaking 5MM or more PLUS all his endorsement deals per year. This sport is broke ass for...
I would guess yes unless they pay him record breaking 5MM or more PLUS all his endorsement deals per year.

This sport is broke ass for the risk involved.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-players-average-salary-tops-recor…

I've never heard of either of these guys. Ever.
Clayton Kershaw will make a league-leading $32,571,000 in 2014. (USATSI)
Miguel Cabrera's average annual salary will be $31 million starting in 2016. (USATSI)




TXDirt wrote:
Crazy money in the stick and ball sports. This is the break down of 32 million a year. Per Day: $87,671.21 Per Hour: $3,652.97 Per Minute...
Crazy money in the stick and ball sports.

This is the break down of 32 million a year.

Per Day:
$87,671.21

Per Hour:
$3,652.97

Per Minute:
$60.88

Per Second:
$1.01
Technically that's right, but not quite.

Since baseball season is only 10 months of the year, so it's $3.2M per month

But preseason doesn't really matter so really it's only april - october so 7 months at $4.57M per month or $152,380 per day.

Though really only the 162 games during that 7 months really matter, so it's more like $197,531 per game.

And since, according to the WSJ, baseball players spend 90% of game standing around, and each game averages 2:55, that's $11,287 per minute of actual work, or $677,249 an hour. Just a little more than you or I make huh?
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1/30/2017 3:09pm
No.The answer is no ! Has nobody else heard him say that he has alot more he wants to accomplish....Go Trump
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1/30/2017 3:23pm
mitchell 8 wrote:
Not just RD seems that most yanks are the same. Don't appreciate there is a world outside the USA. USA haven't won a world championship in...
Not just RD seems that most yanks are the same.

Don't appreciate there is a world outside the USA.

USA haven't won a world championship in MX for god knows how long, and you don't even care.

Pretty sad isn't it.

Why Dungey would want to finish his career in a second tier series???
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1/30/2017 3:24pm
Moens_Andy wrote:
Seeing his reactions the last 2 weeks at the press conferences, he's retiring for sure. He's over it does not want to end up dead or...
Seeing his reactions the last 2 weeks at the press conferences, he's retiring for sure.
He's over it does not want to end up dead or paralysed. Tracks and bikes keep evolving and go faster and faster there is a certain point that you cant handle it anymore and Dungey is close very close to that point.
And who can blame him he got nothing to prove anymore the dude has been at the top of the sport long enough and has been healthy for the bigger part of his career and he can end it on a high note. He'll stick around as a brand ambassador in the beginning and he will learn how too be manager from the man himself and become KTM's new team manager at a certain stage of his life.
I agree with all but the last sentence...hard to be a team manger from Lake Minnetonka, MN. He's going home to raise a family.
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1/30/2017 3:31pm
Tomac pulled 7 seconds in 1 lap at glen helen this year against the 3 big world champs

Also went 1-1, 1-1.

dunge will have a hard time beating Tomac this summer and if he does, he's beaten the best.

The best come here
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1/30/2017 3:55pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 4:10pm
mitchell 8 wrote:
Not just RD seems that most yanks are the same. Don't appreciate there is a world outside the USA. USA haven't won a world championship in...
Not just RD seems that most yanks are the same.

Don't appreciate there is a world outside the USA.

USA haven't won a world championship in MX for god knows how long, and you don't even care.

Pretty sad isn't it.

gjbruny wrote:
hate to say it but, right or wrong, most still don't think the GPs are quite at the pinnacle where most agree that the nationals and...
hate to say it but, right or wrong, most still don't think the GPs are quite at the pinnacle where most agree that the nationals and SX are. when you have retired at the top of nationals and SX, there really isn't much left to do especially if you are considering retirement. national pride/patriotism has nothing to do with.... dungey has climbed to the top of the mountain.... period.

i'm not saying that the GPs have inferior riders.... not by any stretch... it is just that as a series, it doesn't seem to be considered quite at the same level of notoriety. i think it is safe to say that many many people from around the world tune into to american supercross and the nationals and a good less follow the GPs with the same intensity..... look how the powers that be in the FIM got so excited at how much interest was generated in the GPs when Villo went to race.... then how the interest somewhat fizzled when he got hurt. it is just a fact that there is more interest, fame and money to those involved with SX and American motocross.... and until that changes, i can't imagine very many top guys from the US wanting to leave their families, friends and homes to go race a series that traditionally offers less.... especially when considering retirement. Villo only went because there was big money involved... we know his heart wasn't in it as much as when he was here.

roczen and musquin are here for a reason, the same reason gajser wants to be here. until, things change and the GPs surpass SX and the nationals, i don't imagine we will see many top americans heading over.

jmo
You may not say it, but I will. They aren't up to our speed. Answer everyone's question? Should he go hit the ax series too? Everyone knows the best race is in the states, that's why herlings won't race here.
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1/30/2017 4:01pm
TriRacer27 wrote:
Technically that's right, but not quite. Since baseball season is only 10 months of the year, so it's $3.2M per month But preseason doesn't really matter...
Technically that's right, but not quite.

Since baseball season is only 10 months of the year, so it's $3.2M per month

But preseason doesn't really matter so really it's only april - october so 7 months at $4.57M per month or $152,380 per day.

Though really only the 162 games during that 7 months really matter, so it's more like $197,531 per game.

And since, according to the WSJ, baseball players spend 90% of game standing around, and each game averages 2:55, that's $11,287 per minute of actual work, or $677,249 an hour. Just a little more than you or I make huh?
Actually, like hvaughn88 pointed out, Kershaw only pitches every 5 days, so he's basically at $1 million per game, give or take a little.

As for Dungey, I don't think he's done quite yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if he calls it a career after 2018.
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1/30/2017 4:03pm
Skidaddle wrote:
I would guess yes unless they pay him record breaking 5MM or more PLUS all his endorsement deals per year. This sport is broke ass for...
I would guess yes unless they pay him record breaking 5MM or more PLUS all his endorsement deals per year.

This sport is broke ass for the risk involved.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-players-average-salary-tops-recor…

I've never heard of either of these guys. Ever.
Clayton Kershaw will make a league-leading $32,571,000 in 2014. (USATSI)
Miguel Cabrera's average annual salary will be $31 million starting in 2016. (USATSI)




TXDirt wrote:
Crazy money in the stick and ball sports. This is the break down of 32 million a year. Per Day: $87,671.21 Per Hour: $3,652.97 Per Minute...
Crazy money in the stick and ball sports.

This is the break down of 32 million a year.

Per Day:
$87,671.21

Per Hour:
$3,652.97

Per Minute:
$60.88

Per Second:
$1.01
TriRacer27 wrote:
Technically that's right, but not quite. Since baseball season is only 10 months of the year, so it's $3.2M per month But preseason doesn't really matter...
Technically that's right, but not quite.

Since baseball season is only 10 months of the year, so it's $3.2M per month

But preseason doesn't really matter so really it's only april - october so 7 months at $4.57M per month or $152,380 per day.

Though really only the 162 games during that 7 months really matter, so it's more like $197,531 per game.

And since, according to the WSJ, baseball players spend 90% of game standing around, and each game averages 2:55, that's $11,287 per minute of actual work, or $677,249 an hour. Just a little more than you or I make huh?
I think it's fun to look at it across an entire year! I mean one night of sleep and the dude makes more than me in a month. He makes minimum wage after 8 seconds. 24/7 365.

It's just mind boggling.
1/30/2017 4:06pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 4:07pm
cameron96 wrote:
Tomac pulled 7 seconds in 1 lap at glen helen this year against the 3 big world champs Also went 1-1, 1-1. dunge will have a...
Tomac pulled 7 seconds in 1 lap at glen helen this year against the 3 big world champs

Also went 1-1, 1-1.

dunge will have a hard time beating Tomac this summer and if he does, he's beaten the best.

The best come here
Yet, during the MXdN Tomac hasn't won a moto in four attempts and has finished on average 6th.

Meanwhile Dungey has been dropped by a GP rider on average by 46 seconds in the last six.

Amazing how easy it is to twist facts to suit an agenda eh?
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mitchell 8 wrote:
lol. Why's it idiotic ? RV didn't think so.

Laughing Stupid ass comments. Why the hell would they want to do that? GP racers come to the USA. RV didn't want to race the GPs. He wanted the easiest way to finish out his contract.
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Dungey: "hey RV whatcha doin?"

RV: "just chillin down here in the Caymans, spinnin banana daiquiris for the tourists on the beach and renting out jet skis, gonna take a nap in a couple hours"

Dungey: "...................
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1/30/2017 4:55pm Edited Date/Time 1/30/2017 5:05pm
jakeeee wrote:
Where has dungey ever mentioned anything about retirement?
have i missed something
I'm with you on this. I don't really see where these retirement talks are coming from. All I ever see Dungey say is how he wants to accomplish more in this sport and leave it better than what it is.

I seriously have no idea what more he wants to accomplish. He's practically won everything. All he has left to go after are records and I don't see him racing in his 30's to beat the all time main event starts. He is consistent so how far of a reach is the all time amount of podiums? I believe he's already at 92 to Chad's 131 or whatever. I don't think he's in it for the records either.

Does anyone but him know what he means by wanting to accomplish more? MXGP Title?
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cameron96 wrote:
Tomac pulled 7 seconds in 1 lap at glen helen this year against the 3 big world champs Also went 1-1, 1-1. dunge will have a...
Tomac pulled 7 seconds in 1 lap at glen helen this year against the 3 big world champs

Also went 1-1, 1-1.

dunge will have a hard time beating Tomac this summer and if he does, he's beaten the best.

The best come here
Yet, during the MXdN Tomac hasn't won a moto in four attempts and has finished on average 6th. Meanwhile Dungey has been dropped by a GP...
Yet, during the MXdN Tomac hasn't won a moto in four attempts and has finished on average 6th.

Meanwhile Dungey has been dropped by a GP rider on average by 46 seconds in the last six.

Amazing how easy it is to twist facts to suit an agenda eh?
Ken is an AMA rider I thought?

Anyways yea Tomac was a 250 rider when he went to the MXDN and I think he realed in the 450 world champ on a 250 in Germany before he crashed
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mitchell 8 wrote:
Not just RD seems that most yanks are the same. Don't appreciate there is a world outside the USA. USA haven't won a world championship in...
Not just RD seems that most yanks are the same.

Don't appreciate there is a world outside the USA.

USA haven't won a world championship in MX for god knows how long, and you don't even care.

Pretty sad isn't it.

haydos25 wrote:
Sad for who? If they're happy then what is it to you or the rest of the world? If you think RV went as a sign...
Sad for who? If they're happy then what is it to you or the rest of the world?

If you think RV went as a sign of national pride you're kidding yourself. He went to appease Kawasaki and Monster and the first chance he had to get out of there he did. He was over it and contractually had to give them something for 1 more year. A crash and an injury bit him and he signed off for the year with no second thoughts about defending his nations honour, and rightly so.

If RD retires next year it will be well deserved and he will be a top 5 all time guy who was a class act till the very end.
Well said haydos25.
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cameron96 wrote:
Tomac pulled 7 seconds in 1 lap at glen helen this year against the 3 big world champs Also went 1-1, 1-1. dunge will have a...
Tomac pulled 7 seconds in 1 lap at glen helen this year against the 3 big world champs

Also went 1-1, 1-1.

dunge will have a hard time beating Tomac this summer and if he does, he's beaten the best.

The best come here
Yet, during the MXdN Tomac hasn't won a moto in four attempts and has finished on average 6th. Meanwhile Dungey has been dropped by a GP...
Yet, during the MXdN Tomac hasn't won a moto in four attempts and has finished on average 6th.

Meanwhile Dungey has been dropped by a GP rider on average by 46 seconds in the last six.

Amazing how easy it is to twist facts to suit an agenda eh?
And the last moto he raced in the MXDN he came from way way back, setting the fastest lap passing many of the GP heroes who got much better starts and was all anybody could talk about....Now I do agree the post above yours was a bit out of line....so was yours....Now if only you and I can work together in calling out that troll Michell 8 (or the source) who actually started this US vs GP crap in a thread that has absolutely zero to do with GP's.....Wink
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I am confused as to why there is all this speculation about Dungey. If his motivation remains high to prepare and do the work and compete there is no reason why he wouldn't remain as a title threat for the forseeable future. If his motivation wanes and he is pleased with his accomplishments he may retire. Right now he looks pretty racy to me and he isn't giving any ground to anyone, while doing it completely in control. I hope he keeps going, but that is the selfish fan in me.
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1/31/2017 12:08pm
Skidaddle wrote:
I would guess yes unless they pay him record breaking 5MM or more PLUS all his endorsement deals per year. This sport is broke ass for...
I would guess yes unless they pay him record breaking 5MM or more PLUS all his endorsement deals per year.

This sport is broke ass for the risk involved.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-players-average-salary-tops-recor…

I've never heard of either of these guys. Ever.
Clayton Kershaw will make a league-leading $32,571,000 in 2014. (USATSI)
Miguel Cabrera's average annual salary will be $31 million starting in 2016. (USATSI)




TXDirt wrote:
Crazy money in the stick and ball sports. This is the break down of 32 million a year. Per Day: $87,671.21 Per Hour: $3,652.97 Per Minute...
Crazy money in the stick and ball sports.

This is the break down of 32 million a year.

Per Day:
$87,671.21

Per Hour:
$3,652.97

Per Minute:
$60.88

Per Second:
$1.01
Damn does a top Privateer even make 87,000 a year?
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1/31/2017 12:48pm Edited Date/Time 1/31/2017 12:49pm
Why are all of you even debating whether Dungey will retire after 2017? It has been mentioned already by several people close to him that 2017 is his final year. For instance, Grant Langston, his brother-in-law, has said that 2017 is his last year, and that his plans are to retire. And, as someone already mentioned above, the juice is no longer worth the squeeze. This is a ridiculously dangerous job. Also, Dungey's wife has very specific interests and motivations that are in conflict with Dungey continuing beyond this year.
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1/31/2017 12:55pm
cameron96 wrote:
Ken is an AMA rider I thought? Anyways yea Tomac was a 250 rider when he went to the MXDN and I think he realed in...
Ken is an AMA rider I thought?

Anyways yea Tomac was a 250 rider when he went to the MXDN and I think he realed in the 450 world champ on a 250 in Germany before he crashed
Not quite, AC had that race in the bag.
1/31/2017 1:27pm
cameron96 wrote:
Ken is an AMA rider I thought? Anyways yea Tomac was a 250 rider when he went to the MXDN and I think he realed in...
Ken is an AMA rider I thought?

Anyways yea Tomac was a 250 rider when he went to the MXDN and I think he realed in the 450 world champ on a 250 in Germany before he crashed
I didn't watch that race but after reading what you're saying about him catching the world champion but crashing before he could pass him there was just one phrase that came to my mind.
"To finish first, first you have to finish."
The best rider of the race is the one that crosses the line first, if you're pushing so hard you can't finish the race then you don't win.

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