Who agrees with Anderson's DQ?

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dmac1 1/22/2017 6:25am
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keeptwostrokesalive wrote:
I agree with it, the rules are rules and he's a professional, he should never lay hands on someone else like that. He took himself out...
I agree with it, the rules are rules and he's a professional, he should never lay hands on someone else like that. He took himself out of the championship by retaliating in such a child like manner
Revise the rules such that the penalty fits the crime.

Here is an analogy for you....you get caught speeding for the first time and lose your license for a year. Did you deserve a penalty? Yes. That severe of one? No.

Thats where the problem is.
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bushman 1/22/2017 6:29am
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c3011 wrote:
Why is it always Friese and someone else???? When are they going to do something long term about him?
ROCKNDAWG wrote:
It isn't always "always Friese and someone else???? " Anderson has done more than his share!
One diff is Ando is moving forward and Freeze is trying to "freeze" the frame on his way back, cross jumping at it's finest, he has a new tutorial vid on blocking coming out.
aFACEdismembered 1/22/2017 6:32am
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Take someone out with a 220lb metal object for position in a main event? We'll allow it!

Slap someone wearing a Snell and DOT approved helmet? Not cool!

Falling down on national television right after slapping someone was punishment enough.
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c3011 1/22/2017 6:32am
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c3011 wrote:
Why is it always Friese and someone else???? When are they going to do something long term about him?
ROCKNDAWG wrote:
It isn't always "always Friese and someone else???? " Anderson has done more than his share!
I know Anderson is no saint, but every season friese is involved in something and his reputation seems to be the worst in the pits.....

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bushman 1/22/2017 6:35am
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I disagree with the DQ. The penalty should fit the crime. A pop to the helmet should deserve some punishment, but not DQ for the rest...
I disagree with the DQ. The penalty should fit the crime. A pop to the helmet should deserve some punishment, but not DQ for the rest of the evening. Push him to the LCQ...impose a monetary fine...impose a time penalty afterwards....anything besides making the penalty larger than the incident.

Did Anderson mess up...yes....and he knows it. Did he deserve to have the entire night's program stopped. No! People will get upset at on-track incidents. There should be room in the rules that facilitate the penalty to fit the crime. The amount of money involved is simply too big.

You know what else? I think its totally bush that Gallagher communicated the penalty to TV before he'd even told the racer and team. Totally bush IMHO. Jenny was put in the odd position of being the one to tell Jason.

IF the decision wasn't made in a split second, with absolutely no time to think about it, then this problem probably wouldn't exist. Here's another idea....give Jason a warning when he got back to the pits that any sort of physical crap against Friese for the rest of the night will result in harsher penalty than he is already facing. To just eject him was too severe.
Ando totally should have lined up for the semi, Jenny is not an AMA official
smoothies862 1/22/2017 6:49am
1/22/2017 6:49am
I thought about whiskey throttle into the women and kids. he does it to seely and others. whines when he gets it back.
el duchbre'.....good work by the camera crew
keeptwostrokesalive 1/22/2017 7:00am
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I agree with it, the rules are rules and he's a professional, he should never lay hands on someone else like that. He took himself out...
I agree with it, the rules are rules and he's a professional, he should never lay hands on someone else like that. He took himself out of the championship by retaliating in such a child like manner
dmac1 wrote:
Revise the rules such that the penalty fits the crime. Here is an analogy for you....you get caught speeding for the first time and lose your...
Revise the rules such that the penalty fits the crime.

Here is an analogy for you....you get caught speeding for the first time and lose your license for a year. Did you deserve a penalty? Yes. That severe of one? No.

Thats where the problem is.
I can agree with that in certain cases. The only issue is when you make exceptions/exemptions for certain situations then you get a lot of ambiguity on what punishenent to serve for the crime. In this case though I still feel the punishment is right considering he clearly hit him. He knew he was in the wrong, whereas compared to speeding sometimes you do it without even realizing. Therefore a warning is appropriate for speeding in some instances, but physically attacking/slapping someone as a professional in this sport should not be issued as a warning.
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Fact is he broke a rule... it has nothing to do with his history of being a dirty rider or karma - as some here are saying he deserved it. He broke the rule and that's that. I do think the rule should be amended to a financial penalty and not a dq though.

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mxbrian15 1/22/2017 7:18am
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AMA are fucking ridiculous. You can t-bone the fuck out of someone, by accident or on purpose and there be not a word spoken... (Unless it's...
AMA are fucking ridiculous.

You can t-bone the fuck out of someone, by accident or on purpose and there be not a word spoken... (Unless it's in retaliation.)

But you give someone a fucking push in the face, with a helmet on, and you're out, your sponsors investment is out, and your season is done. Peick's effort. Sure. But then hey, let's use it for promos!

Way to cut of your nose to spite your face. Does Anderson get after it now his title hopes are definitely dashed?! Who the fuck runs that show, they're dummies. Every year.
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Two different things in play though. The promoters don't make the DQ decisions, so you can't really blame them for using the footage over and over...
Two different things in play though.

The promoters don't make the DQ decisions, so you can't really blame them for using the footage over and over, its great as a promotion.

The official makes the call on the DQ.

DQ decision I couldn't care less about, If Anderson kept his cool a decision does not have to be made, he decided to retaliate, a decision had to be made, at that point it is a 50/50 on which way it could go. His bad, no one elses.

If Anderson keeps his cool it is a non issue, he lines back up in the semi along with Marvin and he goes through to the main anyway.

Hopefully he bounces back and takes the win next weekend.

Back on the promoters, don't think they would care either way, if anything the DQ brings them even more attention. If he is not DQ'ed again the whole thing is a non issue for the most part, just a few Friese hate topics instead.

Just think, If Ken did not crash, this would be the most posted topic from tonight!
This is a gentleman that I can agree with.
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Crush 1/22/2017 7:22am
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S.Loyer wrote:
I agree with it.
Specially as it was right in front of the kids.
Crush wrote:
So were the Monster Chick's titties... no one is kicking them out
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It's ok, they still think they're for fodder at that age.
Touchê
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mxbrian15 1/22/2017 7:23am
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Anderson was being a crybaby about a move he pulls ALL THE TIME! And then, couldn't get over it. If he had had a run in with anyone else but Friese, he wouldn't have responded the way he did. Was the punishment harsh, sure. But he acted like a little kid afterwards. Don't give the officials something to respond to...
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hoots3pak 1/22/2017 7:24am
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Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who don't like Anderson. I'm in my mid 40's and still have some fire in me. I'm certain the young cats in here could use a little leinency from The Man once in a while. OJ would have been found guilty of something.

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jarvinator 1/22/2017 7:25am
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NO DQ !
Fine based upon review of the current incident (both sides of the story) and his "rap sheet".
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MX-LIFE. 1/22/2017 7:27am
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So what happens if this is done to Dungey,a suspension?
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hoots3pak 1/22/2017 7:39am
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MX-LIFE. wrote:
So what happens if this is done to Dungey,a suspension?
I've been waiting for this. Tell the truth!!!!!!


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GuyB 1/22/2017 7:41am
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Joko wrote:
Yea, should only be a $ fine, AMA ruling just dropped viewer interest for rest of season for a competitive title race. The series sponsors are...
Yea, should only be a $ fine, AMA ruling just dropped viewer interest for rest of season for a competitive title race. The series sponsors are probably not thrilled with it either.
I'm fining you $25 for your post. You can send the cash to...

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steve.hackler.1 1/22/2017 7:43am
1/22/2017 7:43am
I agree with the dq. It's the law of the land. You can't put your hands on another person. Should have just let it go, like Rambo said. Let it go.
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500guy 1/22/2017 7:43am
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I'm calling the Gallagher house at 2 Am next time this happen and hang up.

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hoots3pak wrote:
Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who...
Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who don't like Anderson. I'm in my mid 40's and still have some fire in me. I'm certain the young cats in here could use a little leinency from The Man once in a while. OJ would have been found guilty of something.

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Were you around here last year after A1? Lots of high horses being ridden.
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Mr. Info 1/22/2017 7:45am
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Anderson should of been fined only due to the fact it was a shove not a punch. But if rules are rules then the same should be imposed on Frieses mechanic. You punish both of them for there actions. Why does the mechanic have the right to injure a rider.
And another good point brought up. Would Roczan or Dungy had the same penalty imposed since they are the top 2 in points at that time. Would the teams step up. I know John personally and ultimately support his decision and I know it's not about making friends it's about the rules. We don't have to agree but we do owe him the respect of his position.
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Prntscrn 1/22/2017 7:45am
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Not a fan of how Friese is riding but dude Anderson ain't much better himself. He has a history of questionable moves. I could understand this type of reaction from some of the cleaner guys but when your out there yourself taking other people out not so much
Motocross83 1/22/2017 7:47am
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Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who...
Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who don't like Anderson. I'm in my mid 40's and still have some fire in me. I'm certain the young cats in here could use a little leinency from The Man once in a while. OJ would have been found guilty of something.

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Because it's a dangerous Motorsport with riders flying up and down lanes at speed on heavy motorcycles etc, things can happen quickly. These guys have to be able to control their emotions in the event of an incident and remain professional before (if necessary) other personnel are required on scene. For those reasons you need a rule that is clear, and an absolute. In Anderson's defence; we're all human and I would say that what he did at least took place off the track. But still... The best course of action is to not launch any sort of physical assault on another rider (regardless of the severity) in the first place.
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JayBraap19 1/22/2017 7:51am
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Anderson: Emotional

Freise: Questionable at best

AMA: Could use some revision

My Verdict: Fine Jason, let him ride, AMA reviews Freise incident and decide if it was intentional and act acordingly, Feld and AMA create new "Faceoff" 1 Lap scramble with both offenders to allow them to get all their anger out on each other and move on with their lives.
jeff.cohen.923 1/22/2017 7:54am
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I don't recall Malcom getting black flacked or dq when he slap bogle(I think it was bogle). It was pretty ridiculous to cause someone so much for such a little action. I think being in front of all the ktm jr riders didn't look good
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ns503 1/22/2017 7:54am
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Agree, completely.

Someone could have gotten seriously hurt in that incident, and it would have been an innocent unprotected bystander. Someone almost did, I think, when Ando hit the dirt - he almost ran into someone. Goes way past just a slap to the helmet - if that had happened, on the track, with nobody else around, then maybe you could call it 'just a slap to the helmet'. But it happened off the track, on moving bikes, through a crowd.

Just a 100% dumb move, all around.
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DavidR 1/22/2017 8:00am
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Cole Seely's reaction....


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kkawboy14 1/22/2017 8:04am
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He didn't get DQd for what he did, he got DQd for losing his cool and touching someone! IF that carries over to on the track someone's life could be in danger, it's a protection for everyone and the liability for them is lessened.
Caseclosed713 1/22/2017 8:07am
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I was expecting a beatdown and what I saw was the lamest shit ever. A little "tap" and he was even wearing a helmet. Lmao. What a joke. DQ? No way. Fine? 10 dollars
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hoots3pak 1/22/2017 8:12am
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hoots3pak wrote:
Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who...
Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who don't like Anderson. I'm in my mid 40's and still have some fire in me. I'm certain the young cats in here could use a little leinency from The Man once in a while. OJ would have been found guilty of something.

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731chopper wrote:
Were you around here last year after A1? Lots of high horses being ridden.
I have been off the grid for a while. Glad to be back, but motto argue or put people down. This place has gotten tough since I left.
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hoots3pak 1/22/2017 8:16am
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hoots3pak wrote:
Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who...
Dam tough crowd. I didn't expect this reaction from this crowd ( Rules are Rules). I would guess it's the middle age guys and those who don't like Anderson. I'm in my mid 40's and still have some fire in me. I'm certain the young cats in here could use a little leinency from The Man once in a while. OJ would have been found guilty of something.

Sometimes You Go Down......
Motocross83 wrote:
Because it's a dangerous Motorsport with riders flying up and down lanes at speed on heavy motorcycles etc, things can happen quickly. These guys have to...
Because it's a dangerous Motorsport with riders flying up and down lanes at speed on heavy motorcycles etc, things can happen quickly. These guys have to be able to control their emotions in the event of an incident and remain professional before (if necessary) other personnel are required on scene. For those reasons you need a rule that is clear, and an absolute. In Anderson's defence; we're all human and I would say that what he did at least took place off the track. But still... The best course of action is to not launch any sort of physical assault on another rider (regardless of the severity) in the first place.
Nice, well written, no insults. I like to live in the Grey area of life.

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