How would Gasjer have done if he did ride A1?

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But I love Simpson....oh wait he's Scottish.....
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...which is part of Great Britain...
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crusty_xx 1/9/2017 5:16pm
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TDeath21 wrote:
Canard and Pourcel battled for the final transfer spot. Put that in perspective. I don't think he'd qualify.
But they couldnt hang with Albertson and Schmidt, you also have to see that...
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TDeath21 wrote:
Canard and Pourcel battled for the final transfer spot. Put that in perspective. I don't think he'd qualify.
crusty_xx wrote:
But they couldnt hang with Albertson and Schmidt, you also have to see that...
Slightly off topic and I know he got hurt earlier in the night but how mad do you think Trey was he couldn`t get around his buddy Jimmy?
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No doubt Tim is a talented rider BUT in a real world settings having NEVER raced a full on a race/program I'm hesitant to say he would make the main. I say this because he has to adjust to the style of racing and Europeans are generally known for warming up to the track they don't go out in full on blitz the track at full sprint speed right away so that would be an adjustment as well not to mention all new competition he would have a tough time making the main on his first attempt and possibly second attempt if he was to be grandfathered into the main how would he do? I would say 15th to 20th and steadily getting better with each round there after best place finish I would say probably somewhere between 5th-10th Place with an incredible start! Provided he like most rookies to Supercross don't make any major mistakes and that is practically a given that he would while learning the American stone of racing American Supercross there are a lot of factors that tend to be overlooked when thinking about him just coming over and kicking ass he's an awesome talent no doubt about it but he would still need to learn and crawl before he can walk or run in my opinion

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LungButter 1/9/2017 5:31pm
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rongi#401 wrote:
one spot behind pourcel
This.
johnnypotato123 1/9/2017 5:32pm
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mitchell 8 wrote:
He could ride the track no problem. His issue would be learning to race it with the intensity the top guys bring. That can only be...
He could ride the track no problem.

His issue would be learning to race it with the intensity the top guys bring. That can only be learned through racing SX.

At the end of the day he's a young world champion, his talent is more then capable of smoking a bunch of national guys with a little time to adapt.

More the question is why does he need to bother ?

It's not that he needs he to bother, it's that he's expressed interest in bothering. He and most people realize America is where the best dirt bike riders are. Gasjer did a real good job beating that slow "national guy" Eli Tomac back in September.
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johnnypotato123 wrote:
It's not that he needs he to bother, it's that he's expressed interest in bothering. He and most people realize America is where the best dirt...
It's not that he needs he to bother, it's that he's expressed interest in bothering. He and most people realize America is where the best dirt bike riders are. Gasjer did a real good job beating that slow "national guy" Eli Tomac back in September.
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shaffstall721 1/9/2017 6:32pm
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It would take him a few rounds but that guy has as much of not more talent than roczen in my eyes....

I would say he would win races his first season and probably title contender second. I hope he wins MXGP again and comes over.

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Outside of the top ten
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RG1 1/9/2017 11:49pm
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I think he would've been okay. The track was quite mellow in comparison to your typical SX track so I don't think he would've had too many problems with the track. Realistically, probably around the Webb, Weimer, Bogle battle just on the edge of the top 10 is where he would've been, maybe a bit higher, maybe a bit lower. I've no doubts that he could get himself somewhere near the front if he made the decision to move to the US full time and really work on it though
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Sideways 1/10/2017 1:25am
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And here´s Herlings passing Dungey and Musquin. Still, i have to say this is far from a "real" SX track. Good racing nonetheless. Smile

https://youtu.be/xb0DlCqqDwE
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bvm111 1/10/2017 1:32am
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No way he would qualify .... sorry
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RG1 1/10/2017 1:57am
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TDeath21 wrote:
Canard and Pourcel battled for the final transfer spot. Put that in perspective. I don't think he'd qualify.
But on the other hand, Top Jimmy and Schmidt made the main. No offence to go those guys at all, they are good SX riders, but they aren't double world champions. I mean if we're talking about Gajser just chilling in Slovenia all winter, then flying over to race Anaheim the week before the event, then yeah, he'd struggle to qualify. But realistically, if he was going to race a couple of SX races, he's would have put at least a month/6 weeks of prep in beforehand. With time to prepare he would be fine
mitchell 8 1/10/2017 2:02am
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I appreciate its different ends of the spectrum. But if Gasjer can suss out the deep sand of Lommel & similar, I think it's a safe bet he could suss out the a few steep jumps & a set of whoops.

Race craft wise he would need to learn, same as anyone. If he got out the gate well he wouldn't be going backwards all that much.

mitchell 8 1/10/2017 2:08am
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mitchell 8 wrote:
He could ride the track no problem. His issue would be learning to race it with the intensity the top guys bring. That can only be...
He could ride the track no problem.

His issue would be learning to race it with the intensity the top guys bring. That can only be learned through racing SX.

At the end of the day he's a young world champion, his talent is more then capable of smoking a bunch of national guys with a little time to adapt.

More the question is why does he need to bother ?

johnnypotato123 wrote:
It's not that he needs he to bother, it's that he's expressed interest in bothering. He and most people realize America is where the best dirt...
It's not that he needs he to bother, it's that he's expressed interest in bothering. He and most people realize America is where the best dirt bike riders are. Gasjer did a real good job beating that slow "national guy" Eli Tomac back in September.
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class.

Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US national riders dont have. Sorry but its true, your tracks are too easy & flowing. Too much chocolate cake.

Send Eli over for the first half of the GP season where everyone is fighting to win it still on proper tracks, see what happens then.
DrinkMoreWater 1/10/2017 2:23am
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Sideways wrote:
And here´s Herlings passing Dungey and Musquin. Still, i have to say this is far from a "real" SX track. Good racing nonetheless. Smile

https://youtu.be/xb0DlCqqDwE
I'm noticing how low Herlings keeps the bike without scrubbing, all the people he passed were jumping higher than him.
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mitchell 8 wrote:
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class. Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US...
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class.

Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US national riders dont have. Sorry but its true, your tracks are too easy & flowing. Too much chocolate cake.

Send Eli over for the first half of the GP season where everyone is fighting to win it still on proper tracks, see what happens then.
I just lol'd so hard, Glen Helen is to simple to show his class... bhahahahahaa

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There's no doubt he has the talent and potential to adapt given time, but the question was How would Gasjer have done if he rode A1? I'd put money on him not qualifying for the main event.

Even if he did scrape into the main there's no way he's beating seasoned Supercross veterans like Brayton, Tickle, Bogle or Weimer.
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mitchell 8 wrote:
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class. Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US...
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class.

Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US national riders dont have. Sorry but its true, your tracks are too easy & flowing. Too much chocolate cake.

Send Eli over for the first half of the GP season where everyone is fighting to win it still on proper tracks, see what happens then.
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I just lol'd so hard, Glen Helen is to simple to show his class... bhahahahahaa
When it comes to GP v. AMA warfighting, Parkboys is one of my top Generals.

crusty_xx 1/10/2017 6:28am
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TDeath21 wrote:
Canard and Pourcel battled for the final transfer spot. Put that in perspective. I don't think he'd qualify.
crusty_xx wrote:
But they couldnt hang with Albertson and Schmidt, you also have to see that...
TW85 wrote:
Slightly off topic and I know he got hurt earlier in the night but how mad do you think Trey was he couldn`t get around his...
Slightly off topic and I know he got hurt earlier in the night but how mad do you think Trey was he couldn`t get around his buddy Jimmy?
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mitchell 8 wrote:
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class. Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US...
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class.

Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US national riders dont have. Sorry but its true, your tracks are too easy & flowing. Too much chocolate cake.

Send Eli over for the first half of the GP season where everyone is fighting to win it still on proper tracks, see what happens then.
Park Boys wrote:
I just lol'd so hard, Glen Helen is to simple to show his class... bhahahahahaa
Didn't you know the hills in Europe are much steeper and slicker than the highway that is Glen Helen?
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mitchell 8 wrote:
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class. Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US...
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class.

Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US national riders dont have. Sorry but its true, your tracks are too easy & flowing. Too much chocolate cake.

Send Eli over for the first half of the GP season where everyone is fighting to win it still on proper tracks, see what happens then.
Have you ever ridden Glen Helen?
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DonM 1/10/2017 8:33am
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mitchell 8 wrote:
He could ride the track no problem. His issue would be learning to race it with the intensity the top guys bring. That can only be...
He could ride the track no problem.

His issue would be learning to race it with the intensity the top guys bring. That can only be learned through racing SX.

At the end of the day he's a young world champion, his talent is more then capable of smoking a bunch of national guys with a little time to adapt.

More the question is why does he need to bother ?

johnnypotato123 wrote:
It's not that he needs he to bother, it's that he's expressed interest in bothering. He and most people realize America is where the best dirt...
It's not that he needs he to bother, it's that he's expressed interest in bothering. He and most people realize America is where the best dirt bike riders are. Gasjer did a real good job beating that slow "national guy" Eli Tomac back in September.
mitchell 8 wrote:
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class. Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US...
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class.

Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US national riders dont have. Sorry but its true, your tracks are too easy & flowing. Too much chocolate cake.

Send Eli over for the first half of the GP season where everyone is fighting to win it still on proper tracks, see what happens then.
Something tells me you believe in reincarnation....you've possibly trolled these waters in a previous life......
crusty_xx 1/10/2017 8:52am
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Meanwhile Gajser is practicing under freeway bridges

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captmoto 1/10/2017 9:14am
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Gajser beat both Dungey & Musquin at the SMX cup main event 1. He has the speed & style to do well in sx no doubt...
Gajser beat both Dungey & Musquin at the SMX cup main event 1. He has the speed & style to do well in sx no doubt. How i think he would've done at A1 ? Top 10.

* Yes i am aware that the SMX race was on a track not really close to AMA sx tracks, and he didn't do that good in the 2nd & 3rd main event.
Uh, not a real SX track. No practice with full team focus on a real SX track. Thats all American racers do after Nationals. I figure he would be like Musquin or Pourcel was in their first years. I would love to see him here though. Herlings too but that would never happen.
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TeamGreen 1/10/2017 9:35am
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Everyone posts without consideration that...

IF he were going to race A1...
He would have TRAINED for A1.
He would have been OVER HERE long before A1.
He would have been READY for A1.

The guy is capable.
He's a World Class Motocross racer that's shown the capacity to adapt...
QUICKLY.

When I say "outside the Top 10"...
That's in response to it being A1! The 1st race and his 1st "real" supercross.
If he came over here for SX, I'd expect him to move up in the rankings as the season progressed and he got FAMILIAR WITH THE FORMAT.

Again, "WORLD CLASS RACER AND CHAMPION"
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Idp57 1/10/2017 11:25am
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I don't know about A1 but the first video of Tim is freaking awesome.Thats a hard lap...for the motor!!!
johnnypotato123 1/10/2017 11:41am
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mitchell 8 wrote:
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class. Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US...
Yeah but that track was too simple for the likes of Gasjer to show his class.

Top GP riders have a certain technical level that US national riders dont have. Sorry but its true, your tracks are too easy & flowing. Too much chocolate cake.

Send Eli over for the first half of the GP season where everyone is fighting to win it still on proper tracks, see what happens then.
I expect an American to win Glen Helen, but Charlotte was an unknown track to everyone, if the GP guys have so much technical skill that American guys don't have don't you think we would have seen a GP rider at the top? I'm not even American but if you want to race the best you race in America plain and simple. The GP guys haul ass no question about it, hell the top of the AMA right now is a guy from Europe and the GP's but there's a reason that guy's in the US right and that's because he wanted to race the best like so many before him.
Dinosaur Media 1/10/2017 11:58am
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crusty_xx wrote:
Meanwhile Gajser is practicing under freeway bridges [embed] Training :) A video posted by Tim Gajser (@tiga243) on Jan 4, 2017 at 1:33pm PST [/embed]
Meanwhile Gajser is practicing under freeway bridges

Perfect SX prep...

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