Kashima coating- lowest price I've found

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$389 for forks is the lowest I've seen. Anyone know of any place offering it for lower?
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Lightning78 11/29/2016 9:32pm
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Is this THE Blackdiamond vital user that built that super b'dass CR250 recently? Pretty sure it is brc hes also from Carlsbad.
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NHtoWA421 11/29/2016 9:35pm
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Anyone know what the coefficient of friction is on this? I always wondered why know one in moto does it on the lowers. Is dlc or TiNi that much cheaper, or better? fox and marzocci do it on the friction surfaces of their mtb suspension.
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kzizok 11/29/2016 10:23pm
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Hasn't the thinking been shifting towards questioning whether it actually works or not? Like from credible sources that would know?
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HenryA 11/29/2016 11:58pm
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kzizok wrote:
Hasn't the thinking been shifting towards questioning whether it actually works or not? Like from credible sources that would know?
If it works? It's all about the looks bro Cool

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Skerby 11/30/2016 12:43am
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NHtoWA421 wrote:
Anyone know what the coefficient of friction is on this? I always wondered why know one in moto does it on the lowers. Is dlc or...
Anyone know what the coefficient of friction is on this? I always wondered why know one in moto does it on the lowers. Is dlc or TiNi that much cheaper, or better? fox and marzocci do it on the friction surfaces of their mtb suspension.
Moto stanchions are steel whereas your 40's are aluminum. DLC doesn't stick to aluminum very well at all, same goes for kachima and steel(I think).

I couldn't not tell you which coating is "better", I think its pretty hard for anyone to objectively measure which is actually superior, stock chrome finish is pretty damn good.
Kawasaki-rider 11/30/2016 2:03am
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I am a little cheaper than that, but I'm based in Sweden.
needforspeed78 11/30/2016 5:01am
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Kawasaki-rider wrote:
I am a little cheaper than that, but I'm based in Sweden.
I sent you pm Kawasaki-rider.
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ML512 11/30/2016 7:02am
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Kawasaki-rider wrote:
I am a little cheaper than that, but I'm based in Sweden.
Shipping it to Sweden just to ship it to Japan to have Kashima do it?
Sheriff245 11/30/2016 7:10am
11/30/2016 7:10am
NHtoWA421 wrote:
Anyone know what the coefficient of friction is on this? I always wondered why know one in moto does it on the lowers. Is dlc or...
Anyone know what the coefficient of friction is on this? I always wondered why know one in moto does it on the lowers. Is dlc or TiNi that much cheaper, or better? fox and marzocci do it on the friction surfaces of their mtb suspension.
Skerby wrote:
Moto stanchions are steel whereas your 40's are aluminum. DLC doesn't stick to aluminum very well at all, same goes for kachima and steel(I think). I...
Moto stanchions are steel whereas your 40's are aluminum. DLC doesn't stick to aluminum very well at all, same goes for kachima and steel(I think).

I couldn't not tell you which coating is "better", I think its pretty hard for anyone to objectively measure which is actually superior, stock chrome finish is pretty damn good.
Kashima is actually a type of anodizing, so it will simply not work on steel.
Kawasaki-rider 11/30/2016 7:15am
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ML512 wrote:
Shipping it to Sweden just to ship it to Japan to have Kashima do it?
That's what I meant.
For Scandinavians, I could probably do a little (nothing much) better on the pricing. (And cheaper shipping to me)

For Americans? Nope. Shipping cost is eating that up.

Not trying to step on any toes here.
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Chet 17 11/30/2016 8:56am
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$389 for forks is the lowest I've seen. Anyone know of any place offering it for lower?

Black Diamond is by far the cheapest to date, I have 2 sets done by SDI and it was in the $450 range, A 13.5 KTM Dungey and my sons KTM 65, The cost is one thing but the turn around is the main factor if its the only set you have plan on being down for a month.

I jumped on my deal cause SDI was sending a big shipment and wanted in to cut costs? a few years prior it was $7-900, it seems to be dropping as the years go by but not sure how much lower it can go. All these guys hype up they have have the deal but remember theres only one place in Japan that does it, and everyone has to go thru them.

its 2 weeks turnaround once its in Japan so start adding days or weeks to wherever you are or who your dealing with, the trick is to find a guy like Black Diamond and see how his orders look and see if coordinated right you will be the least amount of time off the bike, (extra set or extra bike will be best alternative) also dealing with a volume dealer in kashima could benefit cause they have extra sets done and then its just an exchange program? if your anal and only want your actual tubes done plan on a month or more, of course my guy promised me 2 weeks and ended up 5 so i was a lil mislead but in the end these things are buttery smooth! id do again in a heart beat, works best with DLC leg treatment for best results.

My opinion for what its worth..
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95s10nj 11/30/2016 9:14am
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I noticed a few months ago the cycra plate on my yz was wearing through the fork anodizing and might be wearing the fork tube down a bit. I put some velcro on the plate to keep it from getting worse but was wondering if they could be refinished or if it would be an issue? Anyone experience the same with the cycra plates?
GalagaOnMYArm 11/30/2016 9:50am
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NHtoWA421 wrote:
Anyone know what the coefficient of friction is on this? I always wondered why know one in moto does it on the lowers. Is dlc or...
Anyone know what the coefficient of friction is on this? I always wondered why know one in moto does it on the lowers. Is dlc or TiNi that much cheaper, or better? fox and marzocci do it on the friction surfaces of their mtb suspension.
What frame is that? An Antidote?
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blackdiamond 11/30/2016 9:56am
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Lightning78 wrote:
Is this THE Blackdiamond vital user that built that super b'dass CR250 recently? Pretty sure it is brc hes also from Carlsbad.
I'm busted... ha ha
GalagaOnMYArm 11/30/2016 9:58am
11/30/2016 9:58am
So has anyone every figured out how to do the "pro circuit" green coating on an aluminum mountain bike leg? Any suggestions?

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Tokyo_Tiddler 11/30/2016 10:08am
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One thing about Kashima coating on the forks is that it is a very brittle coating, and if you don't protect it, it will flake off in small chunks every time a small pebble hits it. It will also flake off where the fork flexes at the bottom of the lower triple clamp.

I have my forks completely covered in clear vinyl. Otherwise, they will look like crap quickly if you ride on tracks with a lot of small rocks.
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TeamGreen 11/30/2016 10:11am
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Kawasaki-rider wrote:
I am a little cheaper than that, but I'm based in Sweden.
ML512 wrote:
Shipping it to Sweden just to ship it to Japan to have Kashima do it?
Isn't there an American Licensee that does the process here?
Sheriff245 11/30/2016 10:18am
11/30/2016 10:18am
95s10nj wrote:
I noticed a few months ago the cycra plate on my yz was wearing through the fork anodizing and might be wearing the fork tube down...
I noticed a few months ago the cycra plate on my yz was wearing through the fork anodizing and might be wearing the fork tube down a bit. I put some velcro on the plate to keep it from getting worse but was wondering if they could be refinished or if it would be an issue? Anyone experience the same with the cycra plates?
Same here. I put clear vinyl where the plate touches the forks.

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blackdiamond 11/30/2016 10:39am
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Kawasaki-rider wrote:
I am a little cheaper than that, but I'm based in Sweden.
ML512 wrote:
Shipping it to Sweden just to ship it to Japan to have Kashima do it?
TeamGreen wrote:
Isn't there an American Licensee that does the process here?
You would think so, but that's not the case. Unfortunately the fork legs have to be done in Japan.
Sheriff245 11/30/2016 10:55am
11/30/2016 10:55am
Lightning78 wrote:
Is this THE Blackdiamond vital user that built that super b'dass CR250 recently? Pretty sure it is brc hes also from Carlsbad.
blackdiamond wrote:
I'm busted... ha ha
What thickness do you have them do the coating?
mjr119 11/30/2016 10:59am
11/30/2016 10:59am
BD does that price include shipping to Japan and return shipping to me?

That's a good deal. My Kashima is pretty beat up from rock chips. I've been thinking about getting my forks redone but I don't have an extra set.

Side note: my cycra front number plate does rub the forks. My PC fork stickers are high enough to protect the tubes. So it just wears the vinyl.

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blackdiamond 11/30/2016 11:45am
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Lightning78 wrote:
Is this THE Blackdiamond vital user that built that super b'dass CR250 recently? Pretty sure it is brc hes also from Carlsbad.
blackdiamond wrote:
I'm busted... ha ha
Sheriff245 wrote:
What thickness do you have them do the coating?
It varies based on the alloy or material but it is typically around 20 microns
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blackdiamond 11/30/2016 11:47am
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mjr119 wrote:
BD does that price include shipping to Japan and return shipping to me? That's a good deal. My Kashima is pretty beat up from rock chips...
BD does that price include shipping to Japan and return shipping to me?

That's a good deal. My Kashima is pretty beat up from rock chips. I've been thinking about getting my forks redone but I don't have an extra set.

Side note: my cycra front number plate does rub the forks. My PC fork stickers are high enough to protect the tubes. So it just wears the vinyl.

Shipping to Japan is included but you have to pay shipping back to you (typically around $20-$25)
sebastianer 11/30/2016 12:07pm
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Kawasaki-rider wrote:
I am a little cheaper than that, but I'm based in Sweden.
like 4000kr for both the shock and forks ?

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