2017 KTM 250SX vs. 2017 Husqvarna TC250

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Greetings-

Have made up my mind that I'll be springing for a new bike soon. Less time than ever to work on and repair my older bikes. And after riding a buddy's 2017 KTM 250SX I can say that it basically does everything better than my primary bike (2005 Honda CR250 - power, suspension, brakes, handling, etc.).

Now, has anybody ridden BOTH a 2017 KTM 250SX and a 2017 Husqvarna TC250? In my mind, the KTM is the safe bet since I've ridden one, but I sure like the styling of Husky. I have seen the initial reviews that say they are different but have taken them with a grain of salt. Want to see if there is any real-world feedback on them.

Thanks,
Erik

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I talked to many test riders who have ridden the KTM's and Husky's back to back. As far as chassis feeling, some say the husky has a stiffer feeling because the carbon composite subframe/airbox. I've also talked to others who say the difference is very subtle.

Personally in your situation coming off a 2005, I think either bike is going to blow your mind. Your talking 12 years of motorcycle technology from your Honda. I'd shop based on price and local dealer availability.
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I believe the latest MXA mag has a test on both, not sure though. I went with the husky because the styling, more flexible sub frame, DID rims, and different suspension settings.
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I talked to many test riders who have ridden the KTM's and Husky's back to back. As far as chassis feeling, some say the husky has...
I talked to many test riders who have ridden the KTM's and Husky's back to back. As far as chassis feeling, some say the husky has a stiffer feeling because the carbon composite subframe/airbox. I've also talked to others who say the difference is very subtle.

Personally in your situation coming off a 2005, I think either bike is going to blow your mind. Your talking 12 years of motorcycle technology from your Honda. I'd shop based on price and local dealer availability.
Yes, it is a pretty dramatic difference. I also have a '14 KTM 150SX and have been waiting for the new 250 2-T for some time. The brakes/clutch/etc. on my 150 are much better than the Honda (with oversized rotor and steel line).

Also forgot to mention the lack of vibration on my buddy's KTM. The vibration of the older 250SX is what kept me from buying one after demo-ing them.

I've read the MXA reviews and they do seem to like the Husky more.
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Any one with yz250 vs 17ktm 250sx opinions? Or mod yz250 vs 17krm250sx opinions? Can a modified yz250 hang with the new ktm?

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I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding the bike this year it is hands down the best 250 2t I've ever ridden, last ones were a 2010 yz250 with basic mods done (exhaust, suspension tuning, etc) and a 2002 cr250 with similar mods. The cr vibrated my hands off but I loved the chassis, never really could connect with the yz. Compared to both the ktm is leaps and bounds better than both, and much more enjoyable than my previous 2 450s, 2009 crf and 2011 yzf. Have not ridden the new husky yet but have read that many people prefer it over the ktm in back to back tests, didn't effect my decision as I greatly prefer the styling of the ktm.
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Deetsmx wrote:
I believe the latest MXA mag has a test on both, not sure though. I went with the husky because the styling, more flexible sub frame...
I believe the latest MXA mag has a test on both, not sure though. I went with the husky because the styling, more flexible sub frame, DID rims, and different suspension settings.
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Joko wrote:
Any one with yz250 vs 17ktm 250sx opinions? Or mod yz250 vs 17krm250sx opinions? Can a modified yz250 hang with the new ktm?
Joko... I had 2 2006 yz250 for a total of 6 years. I changed, played, modified anything you could think of on those yamahas. Awesome bikes, super suspension and very reliables. Then I bought a 2013 KTM 250sx which I kept for 3 years. Loved this bike. IMO... after my suspension was redone to my skills and weight... the KTM was superior to my yamahas in cornering, ergos, motor ( by a mile) clutch, brakes, and looks... lol... yes looks. i guess the same look on the yamahas for soooo many years got old on me. The suspension was still not as good as the stock Yamaha but not by much. And the KTM was a little bit more delicate (Maybe was just me) than the Yamaha. Anyway... IMO the 13 KTM 250sx was better bike all around except for suspension. Now... I just got a 17 KTM 250sx... I have 6 hours on it... I think this is the best 2 stroke I have ever riden... stock. The list is too long of all the things I like about this bike over the Yamahas and the 13 ktm. It is simpler to mention Things I don't like... and just been picky here... the seat... too slippery... I am buying a new ribbed seat very soon. The carb... very sensitive to climate changes and tracks conditions ( well, it is no big deal but you have to pay more attention to it than the yamaha). Stupid different screws sizes or types.. so annoying when working on the bike. But then again... I'm getting used to it. Motor on top fails kind of quick... but apparently a pro circuit or fmf or any other pipe and silencer combo will fix that. So there... IMO... the 17 ktm is worth every penny. However, a yamaha will be cheaper brand new or almost like new, easier to get oem or aftermarket parts, super reliable and awesome suspension. Yes... the Yamaha with enough mods can hang out with the "stock 17" ktm as long as skills leves are the same. hope my 2 cents helped.
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LeMay_848 wrote:
I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding...
I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding the bike this year it is hands down the best 250 2t I've ever ridden, last ones were a 2010 yz250 with basic mods done (exhaust, suspension tuning, etc) and a 2002 cr250 with similar mods. The cr vibrated my hands off but I loved the chassis, never really could connect with the yz. Compared to both the ktm is leaps and bounds better than both, and much more enjoyable than my previous 2 450s, 2009 crf and 2011 yzf. Have not ridden the new husky yet but have read that many people prefer it over the ktm in back to back tests, didn't effect my decision as I greatly prefer the styling of the ktm.
Lemay... how is the fracture recovery coming along? Hope everything is going well on the recovery.
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LeMay_848 wrote:
I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding...
I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding the bike this year it is hands down the best 250 2t I've ever ridden, last ones were a 2010 yz250 with basic mods done (exhaust, suspension tuning, etc) and a 2002 cr250 with similar mods. The cr vibrated my hands off but I loved the chassis, never really could connect with the yz. Compared to both the ktm is leaps and bounds better than both, and much more enjoyable than my previous 2 450s, 2009 crf and 2011 yzf. Have not ridden the new husky yet but have read that many people prefer it over the ktm in back to back tests, didn't effect my decision as I greatly prefer the styling of the ktm.
victor16 wrote:
Lemay... how is the fracture recovery coming along? Hope everything is going well on the recovery.
Really well actually, I am 3 1/2 weeks out from injury now and am able to walk without crutches although I have a pretty pronounced limp. Also having problems with a really stiff knee as well as it still being pretty swollen. But overall having a pretty good recovery, every day I get a little bit more range of motion and strength. Doc says I'll be good to ride again mid winter but plan on hitting the gym and waiting until spring before I even think of getting back on the bike.

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LeMay_848 wrote:
I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding...
I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding the bike this year it is hands down the best 250 2t I've ever ridden, last ones were a 2010 yz250 with basic mods done (exhaust, suspension tuning, etc) and a 2002 cr250 with similar mods. The cr vibrated my hands off but I loved the chassis, never really could connect with the yz. Compared to both the ktm is leaps and bounds better than both, and much more enjoyable than my previous 2 450s, 2009 crf and 2011 yzf. Have not ridden the new husky yet but have read that many people prefer it over the ktm in back to back tests, didn't effect my decision as I greatly prefer the styling of the ktm.
victor16 wrote:
Lemay... how is the fracture recovery coming along? Hope everything is going well on the recovery.
LeMay_848 wrote:
Really well actually, I am 3 1/2 weeks out from injury now and am able to walk without crutches although I have a pretty pronounced limp...
Really well actually, I am 3 1/2 weeks out from injury now and am able to walk without crutches although I have a pretty pronounced limp. Also having problems with a really stiff knee as well as it still being pretty swollen. But overall having a pretty good recovery, every day I get a little bit more range of motion and strength. Doc says I'll be good to ride again mid winter but plan on hitting the gym and waiting until spring before I even think of getting back on the bike.

Nice to hear recovery is going well. YOU will be on the bike in no time. Woohoo Smile
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Joko wrote:
Any one with yz250 vs 17ktm 250sx opinions? Or mod yz250 vs 17krm250sx opinions? Can a modified yz250 hang with the new ktm?
victor16 wrote:
Joko... I had 2 2006 yz250 for a total of 6 years. I changed, played, modified anything you could think of on those yamahas. Awesome bikes...
Joko... I had 2 2006 yz250 for a total of 6 years. I changed, played, modified anything you could think of on those yamahas. Awesome bikes, super suspension and very reliables. Then I bought a 2013 KTM 250sx which I kept for 3 years. Loved this bike. IMO... after my suspension was redone to my skills and weight... the KTM was superior to my yamahas in cornering, ergos, motor ( by a mile) clutch, brakes, and looks... lol... yes looks. i guess the same look on the yamahas for soooo many years got old on me. The suspension was still not as good as the stock Yamaha but not by much. And the KTM was a little bit more delicate (Maybe was just me) than the Yamaha. Anyway... IMO the 13 KTM 250sx was better bike all around except for suspension. Now... I just got a 17 KTM 250sx... I have 6 hours on it... I think this is the best 2 stroke I have ever riden... stock. The list is too long of all the things I like about this bike over the Yamahas and the 13 ktm. It is simpler to mention Things I don't like... and just been picky here... the seat... too slippery... I am buying a new ribbed seat very soon. The carb... very sensitive to climate changes and tracks conditions ( well, it is no big deal but you have to pay more attention to it than the yamaha). Stupid different screws sizes or types.. so annoying when working on the bike. But then again... I'm getting used to it. Motor on top fails kind of quick... but apparently a pro circuit or fmf or any other pipe and silencer combo will fix that. So there... IMO... the 17 ktm is worth every penny. However, a yamaha will be cheaper brand new or almost like new, easier to get oem or aftermarket parts, super reliable and awesome suspension. Yes... the Yamaha with enough mods can hang out with the "stock 17" ktm as long as skills leves are the same. hope my 2 cents helped.
Thanks for the info Vic, I think you've swayed me to the 17 KTM / Husky side, gonna try to catch a ride on one first tho
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Same as Victor for me, went from an 09 yz that I did everything to, to a '13 250sx and now I'll be getting a '17 250sx. The magazine reviews seem to favor the Husky 250 and say it runs a bit stronger. I have to believe any differences are so minimal that I'm going on what I want more in the looks department, another ktm.
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I bought the husky, but I think the biggest factor is what dealer will give you the best otd price, for me a husky dealer sealed the deal.
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I got a deal on 17 Husky TC250 from Lojaks in Tarentum PA. Waited for it to be shipped to Florida where I live. Was worth the wait. They have them 7300,no setup(local dealer was 400) no dealer shipping fee(400 also locally).
I took mine to local track couple weeks ago and there was a mint 07 CR250, and a tricked out 2012 YZ250. We traded and each was impressed and where doing all the obstacles first lap. I rode the YZ and it felt heavy,,even though it was loaded with titanium pieces. Afterwards I learned the YZ owner had 12,000 invested in that bike..he seemed a little bummed that I had about 5Gs less in my 17 model and it was as fast/faster and lighter. It is even faster now with a red powervavle spring in there.
I have 5 hours now on it,,and love it so far. Haven't had the jetting troubles some complain about..went 460 on main and 40/1 premium. The bike is definitely faster than me,,and as light feeling as some 125s. I did shop the KYM model,,and they are equally nice,,but there are distinct differences in components like wheels,controls,subframe. Go with one you get best deal, but check out Lojaks online, maybe worth ordering there like I did.
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I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds , like right there your knee's would touch if you were sitting down. The 17".....I'm not sure if I've sat on one of those or not yet. Since everything is new in 17'...does it feel a little more narrow than the 16'? Always loved the look of the Husky's.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds...
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds , like right there your knee's would touch if you were sitting down. The 17".....I'm not sure if I've sat on one of those or not yet. Since everything is new in 17'...does it feel a little more narrow than the 16'? Always loved the look of the Husky's.
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel wide.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds...
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds , like right there your knee's would touch if you were sitting down. The 17".....I'm not sure if I've sat on one of those or not yet. Since everything is new in 17'...does it feel a little more narrow than the 16'? Always loved the look of the Husky's.
seth505 wrote:
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel...
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel wide.
Thanks Seth. So I have a 16' Kawi 450 , which feels really narrow and the 16' TC 250 felt quite a bit wider than my Kawi in that area. You think the 17' is closer to about the same width as my Kawi. I have to head up to go look / sit on one here real soon , but my local shop doesn't have any in stock. I actually had my eye on one of these TC 250's before I even bought my Kawi 450 , and now for some reason my mind is swaying back to my original gut feeling. Something about that new TC 250 I can't get out of my head.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds...
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds , like right there your knee's would touch if you were sitting down. The 17".....I'm not sure if I've sat on one of those or not yet. Since everything is new in 17'...does it feel a little more narrow than the 16'? Always loved the look of the Husky's.
seth505 wrote:
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel...
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel wide.
jeffro503 wrote:
Thanks Seth. So I have a 16' Kawi 450 , which feels really narrow and the 16' TC 250 felt quite a bit wider than my...
Thanks Seth. So I have a 16' Kawi 450 , which feels really narrow and the 16' TC 250 felt quite a bit wider than my Kawi in that area. You think the 17' is closer to about the same width as my Kawi. I have to head up to go look / sit on one here real soon , but my local shop doesn't have any in stock. I actually had my eye on one of these TC 250's before I even bought my Kawi 450 , and now for some reason my mind is swaying back to my original gut feeling. Something about that new TC 250 I can't get out of my head.
Don't think too long... Just go get one.



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jeffro503 wrote:
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds...
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds , like right there your knee's would touch if you were sitting down. The 17".....I'm not sure if I've sat on one of those or not yet. Since everything is new in 17'...does it feel a little more narrow than the 16'? Always loved the look of the Husky's.
seth505 wrote:
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel...
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel wide.
jeffro503 wrote:
Thanks Seth. So I have a 16' Kawi 450 , which feels really narrow and the 16' TC 250 felt quite a bit wider than my...
Thanks Seth. So I have a 16' Kawi 450 , which feels really narrow and the 16' TC 250 felt quite a bit wider than my Kawi in that area. You think the 17' is closer to about the same width as my Kawi. I have to head up to go look / sit on one here real soon , but my local shop doesn't have any in stock. I actually had my eye on one of these TC 250's before I even bought my Kawi 450 , and now for some reason my mind is swaying back to my original gut feeling. Something about that new TC 250 I can't get out of my head.
Did you ever get the 17 tc 250? I'm on the fence right now between a 17 kawi 450 or 17 250sx never even thought about buying the 250sx till I rode one.
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seth505 wrote:
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel...
Ya it is. That is one of the few things I didn't love about how I was situated on my '13 sx, that part did feel wide.
jeffro503 wrote:
Thanks Seth. So I have a 16' Kawi 450 , which feels really narrow and the 16' TC 250 felt quite a bit wider than my...
Thanks Seth. So I have a 16' Kawi 450 , which feels really narrow and the 16' TC 250 felt quite a bit wider than my Kawi in that area. You think the 17' is closer to about the same width as my Kawi. I have to head up to go look / sit on one here real soon , but my local shop doesn't have any in stock. I actually had my eye on one of these TC 250's before I even bought my Kawi 450 , and now for some reason my mind is swaying back to my original gut feeling. Something about that new TC 250 I can't get out of my head.
Sipes #412 wrote:
Did you ever get the 17 tc 250? I'm on the fence right now between a 17 kawi 450 or 17 250sx never even thought about...
Did you ever get the 17 tc 250? I'm on the fence right now between a 17 kawi 450 or 17 250sx never even thought about buying the 250sx till I rode one.
Not yet. Been contacting dealers in my neighboring states to find out who can give the best deal. If I can't get an acceptable deal on a Husky (or can't find one) the 250SX will be perfectly fine. I just wanted the DID rims, thicker rotors, Magura clutch, etc. Also like the styling of the Husky better.

I did spend a full day riding my buddy's 2017 KTM 250SX. It's significantly better than my old bike in every area. Already sold my 2005 Honda CR250 and now need to move my 2008 Honda CRF450. Been a real pain in the ass trying to sell that one.

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jeffro503 wrote:
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds...
I'm curious about this 17' TC 250. I sat on the 16' TC 250 and it just felt " wide " up front on the shrouds , like right there your knee's would touch if you were sitting down. The 17".....I'm not sure if I've sat on one of those or not yet. Since everything is new in 17'...does it feel a little more narrow than the 16'? Always loved the look of the Husky's.
Did you end up getting a tc250?
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LeMay_848 wrote:
I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding...
I have a 17 250sx currently, unfortunately only hit 4.8 hrs before breaking my femur. But I can say in the short time I was riding the bike this year it is hands down the best 250 2t I've ever ridden, last ones were a 2010 yz250 with basic mods done (exhaust, suspension tuning, etc) and a 2002 cr250 with similar mods. The cr vibrated my hands off but I loved the chassis, never really could connect with the yz. Compared to both the ktm is leaps and bounds better than both, and much more enjoyable than my previous 2 450s, 2009 crf and 2011 yzf. Have not ridden the new husky yet but have read that many people prefer it over the ktm in back to back tests, didn't effect my decision as I greatly prefer the styling of the ktm.
I've decided to pull the trigger on a 2018 TC250 and get back into racing, i decided on a Husky mainly because my boss owns a Husky dealership and it was either husky or a KTM and we all know the deal there, so husky win by that much...

I'm going to sell all of my current bikes to finance it (I figure its easier to keep 1 new bike running and racing than it is to have 4 project bikes I wish I had no budget on). I've got a 2013 YZ450F and I loved it because it was my first new bike and my first 450 but if i have to be honest with myself. Its a pain to ride fast. fun bike but i don't enjoy riding it fast. I can't say its the bikes fault i think maybe its too much bike for me and my skill level at the moment. I have way more fun on my 09 RM125 than i ever did on the 450, I've always liked 250 2T's and here in Australia you can race them in the lites class against 250F's, hard to say which has the advantage but it mostly comes down to the rider but i can assure you its negligible compared to the disadvantage you would have racing a 250 2T against 450's.

I just read the June issue of Dirt Bike magazine and there was a 3 way shoot out, YZ250 vs TC250 vs 250SX.
verdict ~ Husky: Best MX bike because of smoother/broader power output thanks to different airbox.
~ YZ250: Best weekend warrior bike thanks to less peak power and less power hit.
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Slosh 112 wrote:
I've decided to pull the trigger on a 2018 TC250 and get back into racing, i decided on a Husky mainly because my boss owns a...
I've decided to pull the trigger on a 2018 TC250 and get back into racing, i decided on a Husky mainly because my boss owns a Husky dealership and it was either husky or a KTM and we all know the deal there, so husky win by that much...

I'm going to sell all of my current bikes to finance it (I figure its easier to keep 1 new bike running and racing than it is to have 4 project bikes I wish I had no budget on). I've got a 2013 YZ450F and I loved it because it was my first new bike and my first 450 but if i have to be honest with myself. Its a pain to ride fast. fun bike but i don't enjoy riding it fast. I can't say its the bikes fault i think maybe its too much bike for me and my skill level at the moment. I have way more fun on my 09 RM125 than i ever did on the 450, I've always liked 250 2T's and here in Australia you can race them in the lites class against 250F's, hard to say which has the advantage but it mostly comes down to the rider but i can assure you its negligible compared to the disadvantage you would have racing a 250 2T against 450's.

I just read the June issue of Dirt Bike magazine and there was a 3 way shoot out, YZ250 vs TC250 vs 250SX.
verdict ~ Husky: Best MX bike because of smoother/broader power output thanks to different airbox.
~ YZ250: Best weekend warrior bike thanks to less peak power and less power hit.
FWIW, I like my 2017 Husky TC250 better than my friends 2017 KTM 250SX. It's really head and shoulders better than my Honda CR250 (power, suspension, brakes, handling, etc.) too. Glad I pulled the trigger.

There are many threads on Vital on how to get the engine/jetting/suspension setup well too.
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^true. With good traction I couldn't keep my 250sx from wheelie-ing out of every corner and all over the place. I've gotten it well manored just by playing with power valve springs and adjusting it.
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I got the 17 TC250 last summer and don't regret it. In fact I just placed deposit on a 18 TC125 too to ride as well. My 17 is stock with only richer main jet and red power valve spring. This red spring set at 2 turns made the power come on quicker. It'll leap out of corners now and I have to be careful. Stock was yellow spring cranked 4 1/4 turns in which would soften the bottom and lean to more flat power curve. It's really nice that changing power is as easy as a spring or turns. The red spring for tight arena cross track,,yellow turned in for fast sand track.

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