Deterring Bike Theft _ From your Vehicle

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Hallzilla 9/22/2016 9:51am
9/22/2016 9:51am
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Well after yet another friend had his bike stolen out of the back of his truck mid day outside an eatery. It got me thinking about...
Well after yet another friend had his bike stolen out of the back of his truck mid day outside an eatery. It got me thinking about what can be done about this. Yes it was stolen in broad daylight outside of a restaurant.

I started doing a search and found this ..... They lock to both the truck and bike, with a cable inserted into the strap so they cannot be quickly cut.

Pricey ... But I think it's worth it of you want to grab a bite to eat after a day of moto without the worries of wondering if your bike will still be there when you finsih. Here in CA most of the tracks butt up to shit hole communities.

http://www.lockstraps.com/



KBOLTZ wrote:
Last Saturday me and a buddy are chatting at our local track and a young 10-12 year old kid walks up to us and was passing...
Last Saturday me and a buddy are chatting at our local track and a young 10-12 year old kid walks up to us and was passing out flyers for lockstraps. I asked if his dad him out there making the rounds and he politely said "yea he's got me out here doing the hard stuff" we laughed and I asked him to show me the straps and he did a great job explaining them to me and I like that he was taking the initiative and not being afraid to go "truck to truck". The straps have an internal metal braid and I think they're a great idea and will keep away a thief looking to make an easy grab. Good kid, good family, good product... no brainer.
Nice ! Thx ! Think I'll have to pick up a pair.
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PDiddy241 9/22/2016 10:54am
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TbonesPop wrote:
1) Buy insurance, especially for protection against theft 2) Lock your stuff up with a heavy duty lock/cable- bike, ramps, etc., and lock your tailgate 3)...
1) Buy insurance, especially for protection against theft
2) Lock your stuff up with a heavy duty lock/cable- bike, ramps, etc., and lock your tailgate
3) Put your gear inside the front of the truck - don't let anyone be tempted to take the other goodies you paid damn near the same amount of money you put into your bike (do the math and you'll be amazed at how much $$ you have in gear).
4) Back into parking spots that don't have any parking spots behind you
5) Carry a firearm
6) Don't stop to eat in shitty neighborhoods

99.99% of the time, no worries
When my bike was stolen the thieves cut a decent padlock shank and cut a HD steel cable... bolt cutters can cut even HD cables like butter.

We also blocked the ramp to the enclosed trailer with a truck! And asked the 24/7 hotel security to watch our stuff which they promised to do. Luckily my bike was insured...

I bought a 14' long 3/8" thick grade 70 binder chain and covered it with pool backwash hose. It weighs like 20 lbs and you'd need a grinder, saw or torch to cut it... and the new bike is insured too.
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TXDirt 9/22/2016 11:29am
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PDiddy241 wrote:
When my bike was stolen the thieves cut a decent padlock shank and cut a HD steel cable... bolt cutters can cut even HD cables like...
When my bike was stolen the thieves cut a decent padlock shank and cut a HD steel cable... bolt cutters can cut even HD cables like butter.

We also blocked the ramp to the enclosed trailer with a truck! And asked the 24/7 hotel security to watch our stuff which they promised to do. Luckily my bike was insured...

I bought a 14' long 3/8" thick grade 70 binder chain and covered it with pool backwash hose. It weighs like 20 lbs and you'd need a grinder, saw or torch to cut it... and the new bike is insured too.
Get a Sargent & Greenleaf lock for your trailer door. You could ditch the chains then. They will literally have an easier time cutting the hinges off the back door then thy would trying to cut through the lock. There is a video on youtube that shows how much effort it takes to cut through the lock. It also just shrugs off shotgun blasts and 50 cal shots. Only way to cut through it is to put the lock in a vise and then use your grinder on it. Its a beast.
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I purchased a masterlock truck bed u lock. $35 through amazon.

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bd 9/22/2016 12:00pm
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Has anyone every done claim on a stolen bike? I have insurance for my bike and it's dialed in. Wondering what issues people have ran into.
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What's bad is how many bikes and other stuff is stolen at the track!! We're supposed to be riding bbrothers and sisters and yet I hear all the time about stuff being stolen at the track....
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SEE ARE125 9/22/2016 1:00pm
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moore433 wrote:
What's bad is how many bikes and other stuff is stolen at the track!! We're supposed to be riding bbrothers and sisters and yet I hear...
What's bad is how many bikes and other stuff is stolen at the track!! We're supposed to be riding bbrothers and sisters and yet I hear all the time about stuff being stolen at the track....
I don't think it's so much the moto brothers and sisters as it is thieves just showing up and looking for stuff. What better place to steal a bike than a place where all the bikes meet, and vehicles are often left unattended? Dad leaves his new 450 by the truck and walks 50 yards away to supervise his son on his PW, comes back and his bike's gone. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
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lucero10x 9/22/2016 1:23pm
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Kryan5 wrote:
I usually take the back wheel off and hide it. Not a full deterrent, but stealing a bike while having to lift the back and roll...
I usually take the back wheel off and hide it. Not a full deterrent, but stealing a bike while having to lift the back and roll on the front might make you think twice.
yup
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TXDirt wrote:
Get a Sargent & Greenleaf lock for your trailer door. You could ditch the chains then. They will literally have an easier time cutting the hinges...
Get a Sargent & Greenleaf lock for your trailer door. You could ditch the chains then. They will literally have an easier time cutting the hinges off the back door then thy would trying to cut through the lock. There is a video on youtube that shows how much effort it takes to cut through the lock. It also just shrugs off shotgun blasts and 50 cal shots. Only way to cut through it is to put the lock in a vise and then use your grinder on it. Its a beast.
Thanks for the lock idea... I'll check them out. We haven't bought new locks for the trailer yet and probably won't until the next time we go to California. I've been a victim of a crime three times in California but never in Utah... (sorry for the dig to all you California dwellers!)

I've heard about people using cordless saws to cut thru the sides of trailers to get to bikes! Which is crazy...

I like having the chain on my bike when it's in my garage too (the chain is bolted to the concrete wall). It won't stop everyone though...
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Hallzilla 9/23/2016 2:54pm
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moore433 wrote:
What's bad is how many bikes and other stuff is stolen at the track!! We're supposed to be riding bbrothers and sisters and yet I hear...
What's bad is how many bikes and other stuff is stolen at the track!! We're supposed to be riding bbrothers and sisters and yet I hear all the time about stuff being stolen at the track....
SEE ARE125 wrote:
I don't think it's so much the moto brothers and sisters as it is thieves just showing up and looking for stuff. What better place to...
I don't think it's so much the moto brothers and sisters as it is thieves just showing up and looking for stuff. What better place to steal a bike than a place where all the bikes meet, and vehicles are often left unattended? Dad leaves his new 450 by the truck and walks 50 yards away to supervise his son on his PW, comes back and his bike's gone. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Dat's F'd up
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moore433 wrote:
What's bad is how many bikes and other stuff is stolen at the track!! We're supposed to be riding bbrothers and sisters and yet I hear...
What's bad is how many bikes and other stuff is stolen at the track!! We're supposed to be riding bbrothers and sisters and yet I hear all the time about stuff being stolen at the track....
I had a new 1984 RM250 stolen at Mosier Valley. Some guy hopped on it between motos and rode off into the sunset.

A big padlock in the rear sprocket will stop the lone wolf thieves like that. I use one for overnight camping and at restaurants.
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KTM831 wrote:
I remember once I had to stop at my college dorm in Milwaukee before leaving for a race weekend. I was worried that my bike would...
I remember once I had to stop at my college dorm in Milwaukee before leaving for a race weekend. I was worried that my bike would be stolen and I didn't have a lock...but I had some basic tools. I put the bike in 4th gear and took the shifter and kick starter off. Figured that if they got it out they couldn't start it or push it away. Not bulletproof but it made me feel a little better the short while I was away from my pickup
Pull in clutch, roll bike down street until a little speed is gained, release clutch while hopping on seat to bump start bike and slip clutch as needed to ride away in 4th gear. The wheelie boyz types wouldn't be slowed down a second by a missing gear shifter and kick starter but I like your train of thought.

A good sized dog of appropriate breed is the way to go. Maybe even park the truck a little out of sight so they are tempted but still in eyeshot so you can see them get handled by the dog. You keep your bike, dog gets fed and the thief learns a hard lesson all at once. Then there is always insurance so you have no worry at all.
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resetjet 9/23/2016 7:35pm
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I use a very thick chain that cannot be cut with bolt cutters. You would need power grinder. The lock has to be the same, pretty much the round security locks they use on storage lockers or you can lock it to some part of your bike that makes it hard to get to, (inside spokes, subframe, rear shock. Every good thief carries a $10 pair of harbor freight bolt cutters which will cut almost everything described above in 3 seconds. They make a good hitch pin that goes in your receiver to keep your draw bar from being stolen. You can put the ends of your chain in that with no draw bar.
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resetjet 9/23/2016 7:57pm
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SD has some very good anti theft devices.....

sd antitheft 2000-2005

I sure miss old stickdeath....Sure is some funny stuff
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brash 9/23/2016 7:58pm
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We have a bit of a problem Here in Sydney with Bike Theft. One year one of the local clubs memberships records got into the wrong hands, there was a crime spree for a good 8 months before they got nabbed. Had buddies bikes stolen from their homes whilst they slept mere meters away. I take no chances now, Dynabolted hook into the ground, Krptonite chain and New Yorker Lock through the frame/subframe/wheel. If they can get through that they can have it.

GeorgiePorgie 9/23/2016 8:09pm
9/23/2016 8:09pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2016 8:09pm
You gotta take these precautions since new bikes are 10 grand now.

My claim was a nightmare. They paid. But they called msny tracks and asked me why I was racing the stolen bike the following weekend. They even had pictures. I laughed and said that's my 125 but looks identical to the 250 that was stolen. And they tried telling me how I didn't tell them I had a 125. And I said yea it's not insured. Why is it your business I have a 125?

After all the bull shit settled they finally paid me but man were they cocks about it.
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endurox 9/23/2016 8:10pm
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A plain cargo van with some made up boring company magnetic signs on door will not attract attention. I find it silly how mountain bikers put their bikes over tailgate. Someone could haul them off during a red light.

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GeorgiePorgie 9/23/2016 8:13pm
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resetjet wrote:
SD has some very good anti theft devices.....

sd antitheft 2000-2005

I sure miss old stickdeath....Sure is some funny stuff
Lmao. Love the crush device. "After he's crushed to death the Thief can be cleaned out with the common garden hose. "
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drifto614 12/6/2016 11:40am
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RMT wrote:
Pull in clutch, roll bike down street until a little speed is gained, release clutch while hopping on seat to bump start bike and slip clutch...
Pull in clutch, roll bike down street until a little speed is gained, release clutch while hopping on seat to bump start bike and slip clutch as needed to ride away in 4th gear. The wheelie boyz types wouldn't be slowed down a second by a missing gear shifter and kick starter but I like your train of thought.

A good sized dog of appropriate breed is the way to go. Maybe even park the truck a little out of sight so they are tempted but still in eyeshot so you can see them get handled by the dog. You keep your bike, dog gets fed and the thief learns a hard lesson all at once. Then there is always insurance so you have no worry at all.
I guess you aren't aware that the "wheelie boyz" buy their bikes. Maybe you are talking about thieves instead... don't generalize a group of people that you know nothing about, it makes you sound like a complete idiot!
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kaptkaos 12/6/2016 11:50am
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I never leave my bike out of my sight when loaded on a truck or trailer. I dont care how hungry I am or how bad I have to piss. I will piss on the side of the road and eat a Cliff bar before I go in a place that I cannot see my truck.

As far as those tuffstraps, I looked at them, but the lock mechanism is the weak link. If you go on Youtube and see how easily most locks are defeated it will blow your mind. Rotor locks arent that effective for a dirtbike. Two guys can easily carry your bike off and put it in the back of their truck.

You just have to know that if you walk away from your bike, its likely not going to be there when you get back.
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StretchASU 12/6/2016 12:29pm
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When its in the bed: lock down to one of the loops in the bed and my tailgate locks on my new truck.
When its on the hitch rack: run the lock through the frame and one of the chain loops on the trailer hitch.
When its in the trailer: tongue lock for the trailer and disc locks on every latch.

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