The Last Factory YZ125

Helder
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8/19/2016 11:41pm
No shit!! so he is probably full of it about knowing Shae and the PC bike!! man i hate that sort of crap!
kxman
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8/20/2016 12:23am
yeah mate do a forum check on tim taylor there was a post all about him
Helder
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8/20/2016 12:39am
Wow! crazy stuff! where is Aus are you?
kxman
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8/20/2016 1:37am
Helder wrote:
Wow! crazy stuff! where is Aus are you?
little place called Gloucester in nsw

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8/20/2016 4:52pm Edited Date/Time 8/20/2016 5:01pm
>718 can you tell us more about the Bently bike while we wait for more updates from 917?

Actually this is a great question, and KX Man's responses were entirely correct and appropriate.

Tim did his usual BS of taking money, parts, etc in advance payment.. all while Timmy had the bike for TWO FN YEARS, and did nothing. Actually not completely accurate: 718 artfully lied, manipulated-- even stooping to excuses of health, his mother dying (twice.. guess homeboy had two Moms), his best friend's son dying and then his best friend dying..I couldn't make this shit up. So in fairness, 718 did put in quite a bit of "work" -- towards making it a Tijuana donkey show.

917 did get eventually recover the bike (and brother, it was NOT easy), but broken down into its parts and with NO work having been done after all of Timmy's BS. This last turns out have been a good thing, 'cuz actually 718 knew NOTHING about the physical mechanics of building a proper mod motor, getting suspension set up, etc etc.

Ask me about Timmy's scams for fun and profit! I'm an authority because, he took me for well over $20K. And please don't respond with, "Well if someone took that much from me, I'd do XYZ," because believe me brother if there had been a way I could have gotten justice, then either my stuff would have been recovered or that scamming $hitsack would have been grass mulch.

BTW, he's moved on to RC car scams now.

Just do a search here on Vital for 718 and check out the scams he ran on so many of us here. Kicked off Vital (also TwoStrokeMotocross, but that site shut down). I wish they'd delete his Vital posts, it's too easy for a newbie to get drawn into his crap.
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8/20/2016 11:19pm
Insane, I'm not going to say i would do this or that but why hasn't somebody gone and touched him, up with a hand full of footy mates?
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9/3/2016 11:15am
Yeah, Don't get me started on that Tim Taylor 718 character....You can add me to the list of victims

Back to the good stuff.

The factory clamps were a little difficult. I bought all new pivot works bearing kits for this build, but the headset bearings are not standard. The stem has different dimensions and the top and bottom bearing I.D. are nearly the same whereas the stock set up has a bigger differential in diameter on the bottom bearing than the top. Basically there is nearly no taper on the factory stem compared to the stocker. I sent the bearings, races and seals to pivot works to have them matched and they said I'd have to send them to Japan if I wanted to replace them. Evidently Yamaha uses different bearings and stem combinations to tune handling, which is interesting.

Luckily the bearings and races were still in good shape so I just cleaned them up and re greased them. If they were worn, I'd go through the hassle of tracking down a new set in Japan, but there's no need.

The Suspension bolted up nice with Ti top shock bolt and linkage bolts. Looks a lot cooler with the kashima and TiNi tubes and two piece shock body. Mettec had one Ti YZ front axle left so I checked fitment with the front wheel/axle/spacers off my 06 YZ250 before buying it. I wasn't sure if the lugs on these forks would be the same, but they are.


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9/3/2016 3:42pm Edited Date/Time 9/3/2016 3:45pm
Sweet!! That YoT bike is getting flat nuts. There was some Plastic Works plastic IIRC are you going with that front plate?
9/6/2016 6:53pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2016 7:07pm
This bike is like the hopes and dreams that my yz125 wants to be at one day haha. I hope you weigh it when it's finished (no gas, gas, however you want) just to see, as I'm curious how much the titanium hardware and factory stuff helped lighten it up.

Do you know anything about what was done to the top end as far as compression ratio, type of gas used, or even the ignition?

Also, when you cleaned up the swingarm, did it take off the "stainless texture" that it comes with stock? I have some scratches/dings on mine and am willing to try what you did to remove them, but am just wondering if I'll have to do both sides so they look the same afterwards.

Last question, is the throttle tube stock? I've seen the throttle tubes that have the different cam sizes to get to full throttle sooner (less than quarter turn to wide open), and have always wondered if the pros used these instead of stock since they're always wide open anyway...

Thanks for sharing the build Smile .
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9/8/2016 8:36am
yzmxer608 wrote:
This bike is like the hopes and dreams that my yz125 wants to be at one day haha. I hope you weigh it when it's finished...
This bike is like the hopes and dreams that my yz125 wants to be at one day haha. I hope you weigh it when it's finished (no gas, gas, however you want) just to see, as I'm curious how much the titanium hardware and factory stuff helped lighten it up.

Do you know anything about what was done to the top end as far as compression ratio, type of gas used, or even the ignition?

Also, when you cleaned up the swingarm, did it take off the "stainless texture" that it comes with stock? I have some scratches/dings on mine and am willing to try what you did to remove them, but am just wondering if I'll have to do both sides so they look the same afterwards.

Last question, is the throttle tube stock? I've seen the throttle tubes that have the different cam sizes to get to full throttle sooner (less than quarter turn to wide open), and have always wondered if the pros used these instead of stock since they're always wide open anyway...

Thanks for sharing the build Smile .
Thanks for checking it out!

I did find out some history on the engine. In 2005 the AMA had implemented those oxygenated fuel rules that made it harder for two stokes to compete. YOT's former engine guy said they had a pretty extreme engine package that required very expensive VP fuel. He said it was like $80/gal, but I find that hard to believe. The compression and port timing wouldn't allow using even C-12 so they replaced the cylinder on this bike with a stocker so it could be run with pump gas. The cases were the original race modified parts, just the cylinder and head were replaced.

I brought the engine to John Mitchell of JM Racing here in Houston. He has a good porting package for the YZ125 that I've heard people rave about so I asked him to port it and match it to the cases.

On dissassembly, I noticed right away how much material was removed from the cases. It was left rough for atomization of the fuel/air mixture.



Here's a view of the modified intake.



Some cool Ti Pieces throughout the engine





Cutting the cylinder and head





The Ignition is a Vertex unit set to "no 1".

I just cleaned and addressed a couple scratched areas on the swingarm with out removing the anodizing. If the swingarm was in bad shape I would have removed the anodizing with EZ Off oven cleaner. There's probably other methods out there, but that's what I use. Wear gloves though because it's caustic stuff. I prefer to keep swingarms anodized if possible because the surface is more durable and doesn't require so much maintenance to keep looking nice. Lots of factory teams remove the anodizing to give it that cool, raw-aluminum factory look though.

The throttle tube is a black anodized aluminum piece. I didn't think to compare the diameter of the cam but I will now that you bring it up. I can tell you the spring on the slide has been modified by shortening it so it snaps real nice.


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9/14/2016 10:37am
Thanks for all the info, awesome project Smile .
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9/14/2016 1:39pm
So around this point I started to ask myself if I really wanted to build this bike back exactly like it was. I really want to ride it rather than make it a garage queen so I am veering off from building it back to OG YOT form. For example, I'm a big fan of Honda front brakes. They just feel better than the Yamaha calipers and Master cylinders. Honda's Nissin components are lighter than Yamaha's as well. The Levers they used were those ARC unbreakable type. The clutch perch was the Sunline billet one. It had Ti Hardware, which is cool, but you can get Works Connection Elite perches with the pivot bearings and more functional quick adjust. Works Connection sells a Ti bolt kit too. I think they are the best available so I'm going that route.

I'm going to keep all the original stuff, so when I'm done I can always return it to 2005 Metcalfe trim if I want to. I found these original Plasticwerks Venturi front number plate and front disc guard as well as a set of GYTR blue side number plates.



I put a new airbox on as the old one had a crack in it.



If your concerned about the weight of the stock steel air filter bolt, don't be. This baby has a factory two-piece titanium one with an aluminum wing nut threaded on! Its those little nuggets of trickness that makes you smile.


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10/28/2016 11:35am
How do you move this thread to the new bike builds section?

I've been hoping that a of original 2005 Yamaha of Troy Graphics would pop up on Ebay, but no luck. They have holographic inlays so I don't want to get them reproduced. Years ago I bought a couple of the first year JGR graphics kits that were made by N-Style on ebay cheap. I put a set on my YZ250 and had N-Style make print up some matching number plate backgrounds.



I think I'm going to use them on this YZ125 as well and have matching YZ's. Here's the 125 backgrounds:



Think! Technology made a run of YZ125/250 seat foam awhile back. They were expensive, but wow, they are light. Throw it up in the air and it floats down like a feather. Over a pound lighter than stock. I brought it to a local upholstery shop so I could use their air staple gun.



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10/28/2016 1:26pm Edited Date/Time 10/28/2016 1:26pm
Awesome and awesome. DJ i think that JGR kit is clean. It will do fine i think, maybe one day you find a nos troy one. I tried locate one of those kits. I will visit some local shops next week to dig in all the clearance graphics kits pits, worst thing is i can´t imagine what the guys in the shop thinking when seeing my ass in the air hanging into those clearance barrels like a MF.

Nice work so far and truly nice, rare parts. Keep posting.
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10/28/2016 7:15pm
I love this bike!!
nine1seven
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10/29/2016 9:15am
worksmx wrote:
Awesome and awesome. DJ i think that JGR kit is clean. It will do fine i think, maybe one day you find a nos troy one...
Awesome and awesome. DJ i think that JGR kit is clean. It will do fine i think, maybe one day you find a nos troy one. I tried locate one of those kits. I will visit some local shops next week to dig in all the clearance graphics kits pits, worst thing is i can´t imagine what the guys in the shop thinking when seeing my ass in the air hanging into those clearance barrels like a MF.

Nice work so far and truly nice, rare parts. Keep posting.
Thanks RJ! I appreciate you looking.

I'm riding this one so I am glad I went the direction I did rather than just restoring it to original YOT.

Maybe we can do some trading if you find those graphics for those KX parts.

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11/1/2016 7:58am
Awesome find and awesome build. You're local too, I'd love to see this bike in person.
nine1seven
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11/1/2016 8:32am
Dude, this carb setup would be killer on your bike. Not 100 percent on fitment but it's rad.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-motorcycle-parts-accessories/kitchener-waterloo/…
Hey thanks for the link Blake! Did you ever listen to that PulpMX podcast with Rich Taylor where he talks about his 96 CR250 that had the Boswell carb? He holeshot the Washougal national that year and claimed his stock CR with the Boswell was faster than the factory Honda. He was testing for Honda at the time so I guess he would know.

Braaphole: Send me an email at flesche917@gmail.com. I'll let you know when I'm riding, or your welcome to come check it out at my shop. I live 15min from Three Palms.

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Here's a pic with the engine installed along with new plastic and airbox. I don't like the updated plastic as much as the old stuff so I went original OEM. I'm pleasantly surprised with OEM Yamaha parts prices!

You can see the Vertex ignition off to the side. It mounts up in the space between the radiators with a Ti bracket. There is a connection plug that I learned is for a handlebar mounted mapping switch on the handlebar. The bike didn't come with this switch, though.



The bike came with a FMF factory pipe that was dented. It's just a standard issue FMF pipe so I could just get a new one to go with the trick Ti FMF silencer which has a really cool Ti bracket welded on.



I think this bike screams for one of those Ti/carbon PC silencers, though! As with the front brake, PlasticWerks number plate/front disc guard, Clutch perch, etc; I'll hold on to these parts if/when I return it to original.


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11/22/2016 9:53am
Check out MXA's Two Stroke Tuesday! Basher had some good timing featuring Metcalfe's YZ just as I am finishing this bike.

http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/two-stroke-tuesday-the-last-works-12…

So here's the nearly finished product after I fired it up and took it for a rip. It's crisp, but after riding 450's for so long, its hard to gauge. Still, for a 125 it is pretty fast I guess. I need to meet up with my buddy Rob who still rides his 125 and compare. I'll get some pics and maybe a video. I need to weigh it up, too.


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3/24/2017 9:14am
Which bend of twinwalls are on the 917? Not sure if it's just the works clamps and bar mount, but the riding position looks great.
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3/24/2017 10:16am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 10:25am
They are Renthal 997 bend, which has the same dimensions as the 971 7/8" bar that comes stock on Hondas these days. The magnesium bar mounts are high, forward and solid mounted. There is a "10" stamped into the bar mount, so I assume it means they are 10mm higher. There is multiple mounting holes so you can adjust the bar mount location front to back. In pics it looks like Metcalfe rolled them way back. I'm taller so I keep them neutral and they feel good like that.



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3/25/2017 3:57am
Thank you very much for sharing! Incredibly awesome.
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3/30/2017 5:08pm Edited Date/Time 3/30/2017 5:12pm
Such a damn cool build, and history with the bike!

I've read through a few of your threads and I'm just wondering if you have connections to get all the cools works parts, or if you just put alot of work into searching eBay/classifieds?
nine1seven
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I updated the bike with the correct Yamaha of Troy 2005 graphics seat cover and the rest of the bits I collected. Plasticwerks front number plate and front disc guard, carbon ignition cover and returned to the the FMF pipe and silencer, ymc clutch perch and front brake, etc.

Rolled it outside and took some pics:













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4/29/2020 5:32pm
pretty sick you have a full on factory bike right in your garage!!!! Its a beautiful bike.
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Hell ya, lookin good bud!

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