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MOTOXR12 9/11/2016 7:58pm
9/11/2016 7:58pm
Seamorbutts wrote:
People forget the guy was coming back from 2 shoulder surgeries at the beginning of the season and a change of bikes. It takes a while,,,,,
Agree!!
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cbuehler767 9/11/2016 8:19pm
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CrGuy2T wrote:
This. Roczen woulda dropped the hammer. People seem to forget how fast Tomac is but how much faster Roczen is than him.
This year. How much faster than him Roczen was this year. I fixed it for you. That's not been the case the majority of the time Roczen has been in the States
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rrjr 9/11/2016 8:24pm
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Gukamonster wrote:
With this victory, Eli moves past Ryan Villopoto on the all time MXGP wins list. 2 to 1.
rutsmash wrote:
ha ha, yeah, that adds some perspective doesn't it.
Not trying to be an ass..........

But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history.

The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has won the most MXGP's with 15 victories.

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Excaliburbmx 9/11/2016 8:31pm
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Eli rode great and won these races enough of the well if this guy raced or blah blah blah.

He won from bad starts and was way faster than the field.
And the mxgp field is a great group of riders.
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cbuehler767 9/11/2016 8:35pm
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Gukamonster wrote:
With this victory, Eli moves past Ryan Villopoto on the all time MXGP wins list. 2 to 1.
rutsmash wrote:
ha ha, yeah, that adds some perspective doesn't it.
rrjr wrote:
Not trying to be an ass.......... But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history. The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has...
Not trying to be an ass..........

But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history.

The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has won the most MXGP's with 15 victories.

Huh? Neither one of them said he had the most MXGP victories by an American. We are awed by your knowledge of moto history though
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motomx88 9/11/2016 8:37pm
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NV825 wrote:
I swear Max Nagl was half way through the jump section before it connects to the start and Tomac just passed him like he was standing...
I swear Max Nagl was half way through the jump section before it connects to the start and Tomac just passed him like he was standing still at the last jump. His speed was incredible to watch.
I stood there the whole second race. By far the fastest through thst section. It wasn't even close. It was unbelievable how he went through it.
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Katoomey 9/11/2016 8:39pm
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rrjr wrote:
Not trying to be an ass.......... But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history. The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has...
Not trying to be an ass..........

But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history.

The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has won the most MXGP's with 15 victories.

pretty sure he was saying that Eli has 2 wins to RV's 1 win. Not that they're #1 and 2 on the all times wins list.
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dirtnapper 9/11/2016 8:45pm
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rutsmash wrote:
ha ha, yeah, that adds some perspective doesn't it.
rrjr wrote:
Not trying to be an ass.......... But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history. The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has...
Not trying to be an ass..........

But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history.

The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has won the most MXGP's with 15 victories.

cbuehler767 wrote:
Huh? Neither one of them said he had the most MXGP victories by an American. We are awed by your knowledge of moto history though
I was awed.....
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kkawboy14 9/11/2016 8:45pm
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He's in the top 20 with only 2 races!
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dean122 9/11/2016 10:10pm
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Roczen wasn't there so it doesn't mean jack shit. Today was Eli's day.
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mingham97 9/11/2016 10:21pm
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It makes me wonder, IF Roczen wasn't there during the nationals, would Tomac and us fanboys still talk about how he wasn't 100% with his bike?? Just a thought. Not having a dig because Tomac is my favourite rider off the track. (Roczen on the track) and he has heaps of speed (25-25-25-25) but its just a passing thought!

Don't kill me over this but maybe you guys can shed some light on this
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RacerX8 9/11/2016 10:30pm
9/11/2016 10:30pm
Wow is right! I would have loved to see KR94 on the line today. ET3 still needs to attend John Forces holeshot clinic but what an animal! I watched him trackside with my own eyes scorch that track, he was on the pipe further down the hills and somehow braking enough to rail the corners. The live timing didn't lie, he was stealing multiple seconds per lap from some of the worlds best......you could even see by their lap times how demoralizing it was for the 222 and 243 when he blew by and checked out! It was like you could hear them say, "are you fucking kidding me"! I was in awe to say the least, very impressive Eli!
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USMCMXer 9/11/2016 11:32pm
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Gukamonster wrote:
With this victory, Eli moves past Ryan Villopoto on the all time MXGP wins list. 2 to 1.
rutsmash wrote:
ha ha, yeah, that adds some perspective doesn't it.
rrjr wrote:
Not trying to be an ass.......... But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history. The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has...
Not trying to be an ass..........

But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history.

The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has won the most MXGP's with 15 victories.

I think it was more a play on words as the class hasn't been called MXGP for very long? Love me some Donny Schmit, being a Minnesotan. 125 and 250 GP Champ!
roundtheoutside 9/11/2016 11:44pm
9/11/2016 11:44pm
NV825 wrote:
I swear Max Nagl was half way through the jump section before it connects to the start and Tomac just passed him like he was standing...
I swear Max Nagl was half way through the jump section before it connects to the start and Tomac just passed him like he was standing still at the last jump. His speed was incredible to watch.
Not only Max. I think the GP riders in general looked unmotivated an sluggish the last couple of races and I'm a bit dissapointed. But then again, it was the last race of a long season and there was not a lot to gain for them anymore. Fortunately the US riders rode passionate. They all were fun to watch and their wins were more than well deserved.
I wouldn't be surprised if the respect the GP riders gained lately is gone again in the US.
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kongols 9/11/2016 11:53pm
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I told you Tomac would win, and you didn`t believe me. Laughing Laughing Laughing

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rrjr 9/12/2016 12:08am
9/12/2016 12:08am
rutsmash wrote:
ha ha, yeah, that adds some perspective doesn't it.
rrjr wrote:
Not trying to be an ass.......... But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history. The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has...
Not trying to be an ass..........

But you guys don't have a clue about motocross history.

The late Donnie Schmit is the American rider who has won the most MXGP's with 15 victories.

cbuehler767 wrote:
Huh? Neither one of them said he had the most MXGP victories by an American. We are awed by your knowledge of moto history though
Yeah, I'm pretty good with history. Reading comprehension not so much.
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philG 9/12/2016 12:14am
9/12/2016 12:14am
Its a shame nobody else stepped up and did the race. props to Eli , although he made it clear he was being made to do the races, at least he did them.. the rest of them, I hope your trainers stroked you enough to satisfy your ego's , riding at your 'compound'

J Mart was good, showed his class, shame the MX2 field was so thin, but that's what you get for scheduling 2 races that costs a fortune to attend , at the end of the season.. Always used to be the same when it was in Japan.



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TMV 9/12/2016 12:25am
9/12/2016 12:25am
Katoomey wrote:
You guys all act surprised...
X2
scottydogmx 9/12/2016 1:36am
9/12/2016 1:36am
Great ride fro Tomac , I bet he changes his mind about MXDN next year!
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jamma10 9/12/2016 1:47am
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kkawboy14 wrote:
He's in the top 20 with only 2 races!
He's 22nd overall.

Desalle finished 20th overall in the 2013 Outdoor Nationals having also only done two events - and he didn't even come close to winning a moto.
johnnypotato123 9/12/2016 2:11am
9/12/2016 2:11am
Man that was the Eli we saw there in 2015. Hard to say if Kenny would beat him or not, but you have to believe he'd give him a run. But man if Eli can keep this going for 2017 he could have a pretty good year.
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FastGzus 9/12/2016 6:51am
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Eli had 24 motos to show Roczen this "2015" Eli and he won 3 motos now suddenly everyone who was saying Eli and the Kawasaki don't gel, are saying he's finally back from the shoulders and has the Kawasaki dialed. Dizzy

All these GPs did was show just how great Kenny was in 2016
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Mr. Info 9/12/2016 7:04am
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Great job Eli.
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FastGzus wrote:
Eli had 24 motos to show Roczen this "2015" Eli and he won 3 motos now suddenly everyone who was saying Eli and the Kawasaki don't...
Eli had 24 motos to show Roczen this "2015" Eli and he won 3 motos now suddenly everyone who was saying Eli and the Kawasaki don't gel, are saying he's finally back from the shoulders and has the Kawasaki dialed. Dizzy

All these GPs did was show just how great Kenny was in 2016
Put down the pipe.. You think Kenny would have been 7-8 seconds per lap faster than Cairoli/Gajser?
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KC435 9/12/2016 7:10am
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dean122 wrote:
Roczen wasn't there so it doesn't mean jack shit. Today was Eli's day.
X2. ET passed and beat the top racers in the world while at the same time kicking them in nuts.
crusty_xx 9/12/2016 7:22am
9/12/2016 7:22am
Roczen was better all year, nobody can deny it.
BUT Tomac looked pretty damn comfortable this weekend. Apart from Southwick I don't think I've seen him look like that all year. I don't know if it was the bike or his head because the 94 wasnt on the line, but if he shows up like that next year, the others better be prepared.

As a half german I'm probably gonna cheer for Eli and against Kenny next year for the first time since 2012 Whistling
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Fourth_Floor 9/12/2016 7:25am
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FastGzus wrote:
Eli had 24 motos to show Roczen this "2015" Eli and he won 3 motos now suddenly everyone who was saying Eli and the Kawasaki don't...
Eli had 24 motos to show Roczen this "2015" Eli and he won 3 motos now suddenly everyone who was saying Eli and the Kawasaki don't gel, are saying he's finally back from the shoulders and has the Kawasaki dialed. Dizzy

All these GPs did was show just how great Kenny was in 2016
nytsmaC wrote:
Put down the pipe.. You think Kenny would have been 7-8 seconds per lap faster than Cairoli/Gajser?
I think Eli would've had Kenny's number yesterday without a doubt. He undoubtedly rode faster and a lot smoother then when he won at Southwick and Washougal and we seen Kenny pretty much pull over for him and let him by b/c he couldn't hang with him at Washougal. Whether that's due to a new setup or the stars just aligned for him yesterday who knows. I'm a fan of both riders but lets be real here gentlemen, Tomac was unbeatable yesterday regardless who lined up to the gate with him. It was his day.
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Bultaco 9/12/2016 7:51am
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re: Roczen....In order to win a race or be factor in a race, one must first show up to race. Roczen did not. Roczen is no more a factor in who might have beat Eli than Brad Lackey or Jeremy McGrath.
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kkawboy14 wrote:
He's in the top 20 with only 2 races!
jamma10 wrote:
He's 22nd overall. Desalle finished 20th overall in the 2013 Outdoor Nationals having also only done two events - and he didn't even come close to...
He's 22nd overall.

Desalle finished 20th overall in the 2013 Outdoor Nationals having also only done two events - and he didn't even come close to winning a moto.
12 races vs 18....big difference in available point totals...not that it really matters because I don't understand the point everyone is trying to make.

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