2009 CR250 AF ;)

trick121
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1/17/2009 3:11pm
Whats the difference between the 2001 chassis and the CRF chassis?



AJ
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1/17/2009 3:56pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:02pm
trick121-
thats two frame generations and several years of Honda R&D into refining
that chassis..
different, rake, trail, sterring head angle swingarm, frame, susp,triple clamp offsert , etc etc etc.
they do not handle anything the same.....

The 01 CR250 was a good bike,,
time moves on though.
and those early year Honda perimeter frames still had some teething pains
in 02 they improved the frame/chassis design,
but the engine went backwards by almost anyones standard.. and despite revifinement , never really had th esnap of the 01's.

The CRF 250 chassis is yet another generation of R&D (and improvements)
past the 02-07 CR250's..

txmxer
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1/17/2009 4:10pm
jtomasik wrote:
AJ, guys are lining up over at thumpertalk with checks in hand.
they love it...
viking24
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1/17/2009 4:57pm
AJ wrote:
trick121- thats two frame generations and several years of Honda R&D into refining that chassis.. different, rake, trail, sterring head angle swingarm, frame, susp,triple clamp offsert...
trick121-
thats two frame generations and several years of Honda R&D into refining
that chassis..
different, rake, trail, sterring head angle swingarm, frame, susp,triple clamp offsert , etc etc etc.
they do not handle anything the same.....

The 01 CR250 was a good bike,,
time moves on though.
and those early year Honda perimeter frames still had some teething pains
in 02 they improved the frame/chassis design,
but the engine went backwards by almost anyones standard.. and despite revifinement , never really had th esnap of the 01's.

The CRF 250 chassis is yet another generation of R&D (and improvements)
past the 02-07 CR250's..

This is the best of both worlds.

IMO the '01 CR250 motor is the best 2-stroke 250 ever produced (for the expert / pro level rider), other wise the current YZ/RM 250 motor could be better suited (again IMO) for the novice/intermediate/vet level.

Together with the modern CRF chassis, this will be an absolute dream machine. Mount up some "A kit" Showas and I just may come out of retirement!

I compliment your creative vision and passion for both moto and 2-strokes.

So where do I give my CC info to order one?

The Shop

AJ
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1/17/2009 5:07pm
Viking , thanks!

(and i agree with your take on the engines, everyone likes something different though..
all those motor a re pretty hard to knock.. as they are good powerplants for sure)



lol on the CC info.. Smile

but if you are now, or in the future seriously interested in one, email me

ajwaggoner@servicehonda.com

viking24
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1/17/2009 5:20pm
AJ wrote:
Viking , thanks! (and i agree with your take on the engines, everyone likes something different though.. all those motor a re pretty hard to knock...
Viking , thanks!

(and i agree with your take on the engines, everyone likes something different though..
all those motor a re pretty hard to knock.. as they are good powerplants for sure)



lol on the CC info.. Smile

but if you are now, or in the future seriously interested in one, email me

ajwaggoner@servicehonda.com

Give me a a bit to put my kids to bed and I'll be in touch - thanks!
Pat327
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1/18/2009 12:29pm
Is there a possibility that you'll be doing this kind of thing with 125cc motors? Like a CR125AF, an RM125AF, or a KX125AF? Those would be a perfect fit in the 250F chasis.
c3011
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1/18/2009 1:30pm
AJ wrote:
Hey just like the 500's, they stopped making them.. a shame! but it leaves me with something to do with my time ..... :) 2009 Service...
Hey just like the 500's, they stopped making them..
a shame!
but it leaves me with something to do with my time .....
Smile


2009 Service Honda 250AF

An 09 CRF250R chassis,
powered by a new 2001 CR250 engine
(yes i prefer that to the 02-07 case inducted style design that never really ripped)

2009 Service Honda  250AF

2009 Service Honda  250AF

2009 Service Honda  250AF
That bike is Badddddddd!
1/18/2009 1:31pm
This project just doesn't look worth the effort to me... The 2007 CR250 isn't THAT different from this bike. Same goes for the 125 projects Pat just mentioned. There's a YZ125 sitting in a showroom somewhere ready to go.
WhKnuckle
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1/18/2009 1:35pm
Um, in my opinion, the CRF250R chassis is superior to the CR250 chassis, and I never rode one, but most people say the '01 CR250 engine is much better than the '02-07. Basically, it's a matter of putting the best CR250 engine in the best available chassis. Sounds like a fun thing to me.
ratonmacias
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1/18/2009 2:49pm
to me its cooler when you make bikes that never existed rather than refining bikes that existed. so i think in my mind the most appealing would be aluminium framed rm´s and kx's. although i dont doubt that an af 250 honda would be better than a 2007 cr 250.

now my dream bike would a 144 rm engine on a 09 rm z 250 chassis. i already have both bikes in my garage. lol.

keep doing the wonderful work you are doing.
swap
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1/18/2009 4:40pm
AJ what is that stuff all over the ground? Smile

Looks and sounds like a sweet ride
CR250Rider
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1/18/2009 7:31pm
Beautiful bike!.... what does she weigh in at?

AJ
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1/18/2009 7:42pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 10:03pm
lol swap, that's our nice balmy weather here in the midwest for you!

on the bike,
you know you can ride it ... anytime..!!
it will be in socal by feb first,,,,,
and hang out there for awhile ..Wink






to those questioning 'why"
lol ive been asked that on an awful ot of projects.. .. Smile
hey "why not"? is always the answer?.

and as a mulitline dealership,
i certainly understand thier are perfectly good orange and blue 250 2 stroke bikes availible.. Wink
and lots of choices out there!

but some people prefer brunttes to blondes?
or red heads?

some folks just like a kawasaki ,yamaha ,KTM ,suzuki or Honda,,

choice is good!
(and i'll be offering even more choices very soon Wink )

and yes this bike is better than an 07 CR250
(which was getting dated as a 5 year old chassis design)
since ive put 500 engines in both the CR and CRF chassis in question ,
and have a ton of seat time on both, the differences are easily apparent.. Wink
i felt i could make a fundementally better CR250,
than the last one made,.
and very much like the inspiration for a CR500AF, or KX500AF..
the manufactuers had stopped all R&D on the chassis years ago,
and then finally stopped making them altogether..

so somewhat importantly if you like red, you cant buy a 08 or 09 CR250..
but you can buy what i feel is a new improved version of it..

just like a 500AF , it may not be the perfect cup of tea for everyone,
but its a great bike and certainly some riders will find its the perfect bike for them..


on the 125 or 144 thing, if guys are up for them ,
that's a fun project for me !!!!







AJ
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1/18/2009 7:45pm
cr250rider..-
about the same as a CRF250R since the engines are nearly the same weight.
-eagle-
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1/19/2009 5:40am
Love it, glad you chose the 01 motor.
Suns_PSD
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1/19/2009 1:19pm
Another cool project but it's pretty similiar to a stock late model CR250 IMO.

I think a new aluminum RMZ250 chassis w/ a modern RM250 motor w/ a 285cc kit would be the obvious combination to build. The RMZ250 is considered the best handling MX chassis right now and the RM250 motor is highly regarded and the end result would be a HUGE improvement over the steel framed RM250 not to mention the RM250s are no longer available.
BamBamm13
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1/19/2009 1:45pm
Suns_PSD wrote:
Another cool project but it's pretty similiar to a stock late model CR250 IMO. I think a new aluminum RMZ250 chassis w/ a modern RM250 motor...
Another cool project but it's pretty similiar to a stock late model CR250 IMO.

I think a new aluminum RMZ250 chassis w/ a modern RM250 motor w/ a 285cc kit would be the obvious combination to build. The RMZ250 is considered the best handling MX chassis right now and the RM250 motor is highly regarded and the end result would be a HUGE improvement over the steel framed RM250 not to mention the RM250s are no longer available.
I don't think you can really improve on the RM250 frame
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Fantasy
1/19/2009 9:19pm
Very cool....good looking bike.

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