What Are Your Biggest "Pains" or annoyances In MX?

EEE299
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8/22/2016 11:10am
Dude, I dont know how old you are but I promise if you are under 40, this will change. Working on my bike is most times...
Dude, I dont know how old you are but I promise if you are under 40, this will change. Working on my bike is most times as good or better than riding. Im serious. Im 43 tho so there ya go.
I like working on my bike, don't get me wrong. I like riding it more though, and for me time spent working on the bike cuts directly into time I could be riding it.

Yes I'm 20... I guess 40 doesn't sound so bad thenSmile
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8/22/2016 11:30am
part two


Overall finishes in pro moto are essentially meaningless. They go on and on about it but in the grand scheme of things they are only an obscure tie breaker.
8/22/2016 11:47am
pains = old injuries
annoyances = new injuries
8/22/2016 12:08pm
- being fast on practice days and time practices but never being able to transition that speed into races. (aka when it matters)

- always having a bad start.

- lappers or slower people in front of you who look over their shoulder and still cross your line or run you to the side of the track.

- bad flaggers (flaggers who wave yellow on a jump for someone who fires up his bike a straight away and a turn ahead AND flaggers who are not paying attention and don't wave yellow for a rider who lays in a dangerous position behind a jump.)

- riders who tip over or crash behind jumps, and try to fire up their bike in the middle of the track at practice days with no flaggers.

The Shop

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8/22/2016 6:28pm
Brad460 wrote:
My only real annoyance is not riding as much as I'd like...everything else is all good! One thought on this thread...How can there be so many...
My only real annoyance is not riding as much as I'd like...everything else is all good!

One thought on this thread...How can there be so many complaints about a sport we all love so much?

I just want to ride more..even with a "pro practicer" running me down! Laughing
JayBraap19 wrote:
It's not so much complaining about the sport, but more about looking for common issues or possibly trending problems within the community that can be improved...
It's not so much complaining about the sport, but more about looking for common issues or possibly trending problems within the community that can be improved.

We all know you can find ten billion things to complain about, but looking for legitimate issues to solve is something I don't see a whole lot of.
Moto810 wrote:
Jaybraap is correct it is not so much complaining as it is looking for improvements. The idea that its motocross so it should just stay the...
Jaybraap is correct it is not so much complaining as it is looking for improvements. The idea that its motocross so it should just stay the same and never fix problems is crazy. Wanting the sport you love to improve is not a crime.
We are all still waiting on you to open a track and show everyone how it can be done so easily.
8/22/2016 6:44pm
kkawboy14 wrote:
2 stroke fanatics

Sandbaggers

No smoked turkey legs
What do you have against the 2 stroke bros?
8/22/2016 6:53pm
Riders not riding the entire track and not entering and exiting the track safely.
8/22/2016 7:01pm
Having at least 45 minutes from being at my front door to on the bike at the ride spot. I live in the burbs.

The issue with two many classes. Seriously, the ISSUE WITH TOO MANY CLASSES. where's the disconnect? How come everyone who goes to ride/race the track complains about it but every track still does it? If you've got 40 gates at your track, 7 b class guys and 15 c class guys, put them on different sides of the dog house, drop the gate for b, reset it, wait 60 seconds and drop for c. It's basic
Moto810
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8/22/2016 9:53pm
crusher773 wrote:
We are all still waiting on you to open a track and show everyone how it can be done so easily.
This coming from a guy who failed at running a track and blames the economy for his failure. Oh wait other motocross tracks made it through the downturn! Enough said!
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8/22/2016 10:53pm
In no particular order:
- People that complain about sandbaggers. Let's be honest, the only people wanking about sandbagging are the same guys who rave about their big win when all the fast guys raced someplace else! Ever hear a "fast guy" complain about sandbagging?
- Rev Dorks. We all know one, they start the bike and immediately rev the piss outta it.
- People that think more noise equals more power, "hey man, I pulled my silencer off and this thing rips!" No clue, none...
- Not having enough money for, nor the ability to need, all the trick stuff one can actually buy for an MX bike these days.
- Injuries and getting old. Recovery from injuries and big nights boozing used to be so much easier, WTF?
- GP vs AMA debate. It cannot be quantified, let it go. Enjoy each for what they are.
- When your favorite rider is nearing the end of his reign, and the end becomes reality. I am a huge RC fan, but man was I bummed when he dethroned the King!
- Today's shitty pump gas.
I could probably write about 30 more, but I'll stop here...
ktmdan
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8/22/2016 11:42pm
Expert moto riders thinking they're hot shit in the woods and don't let you pass during xc practice. The crappy part is that they are good at the open field sections where most passing takes place. It is mildly amusing to see them blow apart every corner in the woods like it's a sand berm.

Also their are folks on vital who cantt type good, it doesnt make since, sense theyre is spell check on here.
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8/23/2016 2:42am
The sports attitude towards newcomers in general. if your not able to hit all the jumps you just oh the way. Wtf isn't that was c class is, for noobs?

People who leave trash all over the ground after a practice or race day. Come on people pick up your trash.

Kids on pit bikes riding/racing through the pits with no helmet or boots. Parents have not a care in the world.

Riders who think a practice is a race. Bounce your bike off the rev limiter at me and I'm usually going to make it more difficult. If you are as fast as you think you are it won't be hard to pass me, I'm old and slow.

These families that have huge expensive rigs but can't park worth shit and take up 1/8th acre with all the stuff needed for a one day race. Meanwhile I'm rocking a S10.

And finally: Loam. What happened that every track had to be mushy as hell. Can anyone ride in hardpack anymore?
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8/23/2016 5:29am
I started writing down a list of things but then I realized I would probably have to miss a week of work to list all of them.
8/23/2016 5:34am
When the gps takes you nowhere near the motocross track.
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8/23/2016 5:43am
Too many stupid people being able to voice their opinion.
Too many stupid people in charge of important stuff.
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8/23/2016 5:46am
After giving it another thought: Nothing. Everything is suddenly fine once I find myself anywhere near my bike and the world becomes a better place. Pains start the next day, or sometimes shortly after riding Smile
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8/23/2016 6:16am
crusher773 wrote:
We are all still waiting on you to open a track and show everyone how it can be done so easily.
Moto810 wrote:
This coming from a guy who failed at running a track and blames the economy for his failure. Oh wait other motocross tracks made it through...
This coming from a guy who failed at running a track and blames the economy for his failure. Oh wait other motocross tracks made it through the downturn! Enough said!
Nope I never said anything like that. You blame everything on track owners though.
JayBraap19
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8/23/2016 6:25am
No one listens to Rock music anymore.. back in my day everyone cranked up Motley Crue...Ozzy...Metallica...Pink Floyd...ect...
I'm hoping the new Metallica album provides some good pre-moto tunes!
8/23/2016 7:04am
I would say right now the fact that I have to drive two and a half hours to ride a decent track sure annoy's the piss out of me.
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8/23/2016 7:24am
No Doubt, the riders that charge up to the jump and slam on the brakes on the face while you're already committed!!!!!! move over if you aren't jumping!
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8/23/2016 7:28am
oh yeah...One more. You don't have to "Clean out a 4 Stroke" please stop doing that. Have a good day
HenryA
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8/23/2016 7:45am
JackLHyde wrote:
Too many stupid people being able to voice their opinion.
Too many stupid people in charge of important stuff.
So damn true. Dry
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8/23/2016 8:05am
As a racer (something I rarely do).
1) Way too many classes.
2) Being at the track from sunrise, being there all day to race 8 laps. *
* Which is why I prefer just to ride open practice days. I can ride a lot more for less money.
3) Guys who somehow manage to ride almost every practice session. So....you're an A and C rider? And then you get pissed because us slow guys are in your way?

As a fan (Red Bud and Detroit SX every year).
1) Paying twice to park. Once at the gate and then again for trackside.
2) Porta johns are NASTY!!!! Please....if this is a World Class event, build some real restrooms.
3) SX is a race. Not a rock concert.
4) Announcers that NEVER shut up.
5) VIP areas are taking over and are way over priced. Which may be why I always see them less than half full.
6) TV coverage is horrible.

Still love the sport though in spite of the complaints. My preference is trails though. Always will be. I can ride for hour after hour. Go into town for gas and lunch. Hit the trails until sundown and almost never see the same tree twice.
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8/23/2016 1:42pm
how people react when you go for the pass on a 125 lol poor track prep and design by people who obviously don't ride (+ never...
how people react when you go for the pass on a 125 lol

poor track prep and design by people who obviously don't ride (+ never have)
and this leading to spending the day sitting in the pits while people get looked after or air ambulanced out (local guys will know where i mean Wink )
How do people react when you go for a pass on a 125 lol? I haven't ridden on a public track with random people so I've yet to have a chance to experience this Grinning
8/23/2016 2:21pm
When MX magazines began treating the opinions on Vital as the opinions of all MX fans.
The Rock
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8/23/2016 2:35pm
Flip109 wrote:
Flats
Changing tires
Flats
Actually anythjng that requires taking the back tire off of the rim. Did I mention flats? Angry Pinch
TUbliss. Once you go TUbliss you don't go back especially if you change tires frequently.

Pre TUbliss I would even go to the bother of turning a tire around to get to the sharp side to extend tire life. I had two sets of wheels for my CR500 hard pack and sand so I didn't have to change tires to race at Sunrise up in Adelanto. I was a Carlsbad regular plus raced at Ascot. Until I bought a used front wheel I kept a hard pack MX 22 (?) on the spare wheel I bought new and only used it for the motos af Ascot. Marine layer would come in and that place was like riding on glass.

The TUbliss stays on rim so you only remove and install the tire.

Tire changing tips

Don't be in a hurry. Get a small bowl to put small parts in.

Whenever possible let the sun get the tire good and hot to make it easier to flex.

Use a lubricant for the bead and baby powder for the tube

Before putting the last sidewalk of the tire inside the rim inflate the tube slightly then remove valve stem to deflate or deflate as much as possible. Goal is to eliminate chance of pinching the tube by doing this pre inflation ritual.

Watch the Dunlop guys at a race

Do a search on Jay Clark tire changing tips. Jay aside from being the project bike King is a master tire changer. Not a bad bloke either.

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8/23/2016 2:45pm
450 riders who don't know that you need to repack your muffler, otherwise it doesn't muffle anything. Its a weird coincidence that these guys bikes need...
450 riders who don't know that you need to repack your muffler, otherwise it doesn't muffle anything.

Its a weird coincidence that these guys bikes need the longest to warm up too, just gotta snap er wide open in the pits a few more times bruh....
Come here often? Nice shirt.

Great point about then they take the longest to warm their bikes up. Funny how we can sometimes see these examples of irony for lack of a better word.

Cans in need of repacking usually pop on de acceleration too. People spend hundreds of dollars for wheels or what not but are sometimes reluctant to spend money for a repack to restore optimum power. Race gas users in particular should be on top of repacks since the more exotic the fuel typically the harder it is on the packing.
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8/23/2016 4:04pm
The Rock wrote:
TUbliss. Once you go TUbliss you don't go back especially if you change tires frequently. Pre TUbliss I would even go to the bother of turning...
TUbliss. Once you go TUbliss you don't go back especially if you change tires frequently.

Pre TUbliss I would even go to the bother of turning a tire around to get to the sharp side to extend tire life. I had two sets of wheels for my CR500 hard pack and sand so I didn't have to change tires to race at Sunrise up in Adelanto. I was a Carlsbad regular plus raced at Ascot. Until I bought a used front wheel I kept a hard pack MX 22 (?) on the spare wheel I bought new and only used it for the motos af Ascot. Marine layer would come in and that place was like riding on glass.

The TUbliss stays on rim so you only remove and install the tire.

Tire changing tips

Don't be in a hurry. Get a small bowl to put small parts in.

Whenever possible let the sun get the tire good and hot to make it easier to flex.

Use a lubricant for the bead and baby powder for the tube

Before putting the last sidewalk of the tire inside the rim inflate the tube slightly then remove valve stem to deflate or deflate as much as possible. Goal is to eliminate chance of pinching the tube by doing this pre inflation ritual.

Watch the Dunlop guys at a race

Do a search on Jay Clark tire changing tips. Jay aside from being the project bike King is a master tire changer. Not a bad bloke either.

All great tyre changing tips but you forgot one thing, if it's fighting you, you are doing it wrong, I've been using your method for years never had a problem
JayBraap19
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8/23/2016 5:09pm Edited Date/Time 8/23/2016 5:11pm
Biggest current annoyance is how "cliquey" the sport has become.

Over the span of my life I have lost all my core moto friends that I grew up racing with because of the fact that I had to go get a real job while their parents continued to support them, eventually causing us to lose touch.

I often feel very out of place when I show up to practice due to the fact that everyone has their tight groups, and approaching most of them to strike up conversations often just ends up with an awkward silence falling over everyone , like they're "too cool" to talk to you.

It makes me sad that there is so much ego in our sport now days. It's like everyone has a chip on their shoulder.

Edit: This is mostly true for my age demographic and younger (15-26). The older guys at the track are always welcoming and love to chat.
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8/23/2016 5:30pm
Moto810 wrote:
Nice thread! 1) track safety or lack of it (poor flagging, blind jumps, equipment to close to track or on track) 2) poor track grooming or...
Nice thread!

1) track safety or lack of it (poor flagging, blind jumps, equipment to close to track or on track)

2) poor track grooming or watering

3) dirty restrooms (hard to get your girlfriend or wife to come to track because of this)

4) younger riders being allowed to ride in the vet practice

5) to many classes on a race day

6) poor communications at the track for practice lineup and race order

You must not be volunteering at your local track. I clean the toilets I help with the track and empty the trach after the races. The owner is encouraged to keep the track open because I help

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