Eli Tomac Opts Out of 2016 Motocross of Nations

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RG1 wrote:
Joke. His September is no more busy than anyone else's
early wrote:
Says the guy who has time to make 1700 posts on vital in one year.
What does that have to do with anything?
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TeamGreen wrote:
Milsaps
Goerke
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Replace Goerke with Osborne (GP experience), and I think this team could win it.
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RG1 wrote:
Joke. His September is no more busy than anyone else's
GuyB wrote:
How about his January through August?
It's his job
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8/10/2016 5:06pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2016 5:06pm
Heck, since Dungey's confirmed for the Oct. 8th race in Germany, he'd be the USA's best alternative to Tomac.

Haven't heard Dungey's not going to the des Nations....yet. Smile
8/10/2016 5:09pm
If he races Glen Helen and the Charlotte GP's I find it completely understandable.

From strictly a fans perspective, I would gladly give up Monster Cup, SMX Riders Cup, and Straight Rhythm if it meant MXDN got better attendance from American riders. It appears the economics of it all are against me though.

When do you think was the last time that America actually had it's three top guys for MXDN? 2011 is probably the right answer.

If Webb races the US GP's and MXDN he's starting down the path of legendary status IMO.

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8/10/2016 5:09pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2016 5:10pm
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bummer, but where's everyone that "lost respect for Kenny?"
That's different Keny is German Evil
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Ted722 wrote:
Heck, since Dungey's confirmed for the Oct. 8th race in Germany, he'd be the USA's best alternative to Tomac. Haven't heard Dungey's not going to the...
Heck, since Dungey's confirmed for the Oct. 8th race in Germany, he'd be the USA's best alternative to Tomac.

Haven't heard Dungey's not going to the des Nations....yet. Smile
Aldon said it already when he got hurt.


Kinda pissed about this.... it stings. Dungey & Tomac are a wash, but it's a sharp drop off after Eli....
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8/10/2016 5:17pm
Those guys have to put in such a ball-busting season that I'm not going to hold it against one of them
for sitting it out. It's gotta just be such a meat grinder.

That having been said, and I know they came up just short, but I was a huge fan of how Team USA
rode THEIR FUCKING ASSES OFF last year. They were great. So if Barcia, Webb and A. Mart or Savatgy go, I'm all for it.
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8/10/2016 5:18pm
RG1 wrote:
Joke. His September is no more busy than anyone else's
GuyB wrote:
How about his January through August?
RG1 wrote:
It's his job
His job is 17 supercross races and 12 Nationals, Monster Engery Cup and the two GPs.

Cut the bullshit GPs out and I bet he would want to go. But monster has him by the balls with the those races.



8/10/2016 5:18pm
They can't stand the heat, they don't go into the kitchen. USA was not going to podium anyway this year.
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8/10/2016 5:19pm
Actually, I'd love to see Nicoletti out there. You know he'd get a great start and that alone would be the most ruling thing ever!!!! Then he'd follow it up with some seriously epic PR work. Hell, yeah Phil!!!!
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8/10/2016 5:19pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2016 5:20pm
Barcia, Webb, Cianciarulo

Edit: Wouldn't mind Forkner going either, even though he's a rookie (call me crazy I don't care)
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So the US schedule is a grind, this also effects foreign riders in the US.

Is it time to possible reduce the size of the schedule by maybe two weekends, one SX and one MX.
Or reduce MX by 2 weeks after, the riders complain theres no money in mx after all.

Bring the MXON forward and the whole world MX scene into sync.

Why is there a two week break now, why isn't this added between sx and mx so riders can regroup?

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Its very sad and disappointing that representing your country has become such a non priority for our top racers....

Makes me sick.
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Good for him!

I've served 25 years and counting in the military and I get the patriotic aspect of the race so don't get all bent on that part. These guys are pulled in 20 different directions throughout the year, 17 SX, 12 MX, MEC, now 2 USGP? That is insane, how many rounds do the GP riders do and then only hit MXdN and a couple euro SX rounds.... Hardly a caparison.

Before you get bent at Eli I would look hard at Feld and manufacturers forcing the extra long SX and MX season and Monster for the MEC and USGP commitments... Just my humble opinion
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Paul333 wrote:
Its very sad and disappointing that representing your country has become such a non priority for our top racers....

Makes me sick.
So you will work for free? On the weekends? Or on your vacation?
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Paul333 wrote:
Its very sad and disappointing that representing your country has become such a non priority for our top racers....

Makes me sick.
What makes me sick is Monster making their riders ride bullshit races that mean absolutely nothing and burn their guys to the ground to the point they don't want to or have the time to prepare for the MXoNs.

Thats bullshit. Like Matthes said, tell Monster to go pound sand.
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8/10/2016 5:34pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2016 5:36pm
Paul333 wrote:
Its very sad and disappointing that representing your country has become such a non priority for our top racers....

Makes me sick.
IceMan446 wrote:
What makes me sick is Monster making their riders ride bullshit races that mean absolutely nothing and burn their guys to the ground to the point...
What makes me sick is Monster making their riders ride bullshit races that mean absolutely nothing and burn their guys to the ground to the point they don't want to or have the time to prepare for the MXoNs.

Thats bullshit. Like Matthes said, tell Monster to go pound sand.
I work, like most people 49-50 weeks a year so I won't be crying many tears for the top 5% of MX/SX racers who work 32-35 weeks total.....
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8/10/2016 5:36pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2016 5:36pm
Webb on 450, Alex Martin on 250... Both A+ picks.

I think you almost have to pick Barcia (if he's willing) as the other 450 guy.

How about the Martin bros and Webb?! Put J-Mart on a 450 too! Grinning
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I work, like most people 49-50 weeks a year so I won't be crying many tears for the top 5% of MX/SX racers who work 32-35...
I work, like most people 49-50 weeks a year so I won't be crying many tears for the top 5% of MX/SX racers who work 32-35 weeks total.....
Whats your line of work?

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Paul333 wrote:
Its very sad and disappointing that representing your country has become such a non priority for our top racers....

Makes me sick.
kkawboy14 wrote:
So you will work for free? On the weekends? Or on your vacation?
This just doesn't make any sense though. In a normal job in normal circumstances you're right, you probably wouldn't do any of those things. However, if I earned $millions a year and I was in a position to be 1 of only 3 people selected to represent my country, I would probably feel pretty different about the whole situation.
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Webb on 450, Alex Martin on 250... Both A+ picks. I think you almost have to pick Barcia (if he's willing) as the other 450 guy...
Webb on 450, Alex Martin on 250... Both A+ picks.

I think you almost have to pick Barcia (if he's willing) as the other 450 guy.

How about the Martin bros and Webb?! Put J-Mart on a 450 too! Grinning
I would love to see JMart on a 250 and AMart on a 450.

I just think with them changing teams Yamaha won't be so willing to give them bikes to ride. Especially setting up a 450 for either one of them.

Cooper, Barcia and AMart are my picks.
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bvm111 wrote:
Good for him! I've served 25 years and counting in the military and I get the patriotic aspect of the race so don't get all bent...
Good for him!

I've served 25 years and counting in the military and I get the patriotic aspect of the race so don't get all bent on that part. These guys are pulled in 20 different directions throughout the year, 17 SX, 12 MX, MEC, now 2 USGP? That is insane, how many rounds do the GP riders do and then only hit MXdN and a couple euro SX rounds.... Hardly a caparison.

Before you get bent at Eli I would look hard at Feld and manufacturers forcing the extra long SX and MX season and Monster for the MEC and USGP commitments... Just my humble opinion
Totally agree! The schedule could easily be pared down to say 14 SX and 10 MX races (with rotating venues) and MXDN could be run every 4 years like the olympics. 30 + races are too many for a sport like moto and leads to excessive injury/burnout.
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8/10/2016 5:40pm Edited Date/Time 8/10/2016 5:42pm
Paul333 wrote:
Its very sad and disappointing that representing your country has become such a non priority for our top racers....

Makes me sick.
It's what lead up to this that makes me sick. The promoters are getting rich off the event. It doesn't benefit the riders at all.

I don't blame them. Share the wealth you morons, otherwise this event will become completely meaningless if no riders want to go risk their health for practically nothing.
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BB67 wrote:
Said something about his teammates are not fast enough?




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IceMan446 wrote:
His job is 17 supercross races and 12 Nationals, Monster Engery Cup and the two GPs. Cut the bullshit GPs out and I bet he would...
His job is 17 supercross races and 12 Nationals, Monster Engery Cup and the two GPs.

Cut the bullshit GPs out and I bet he would want to go. But monster has him by the balls with the those races.



I wonder if this is going to effect their relationship going into the future...?
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The energy drink sponsors need to pull their fuckin heads in... and the teams need to grow a pair.

Same as Dungey racing the SMX cup bullshit and not the MxDN. Fucking ridiculous.

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