Tomac Rekluse?

pilotdude wrote:

Almost certainly. They would be crazy not to.

pilotdude wrote:

Almost certainly. They would be crazy not to.

ML512 wrote:

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson. Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned...

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson.

Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned up a bit, and the tip over sensors are removed or the ball inside is glued in place so they don't shut off when running on their side.

bvm111 wrote:

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ML512 wrote:

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson. Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned...

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson.

Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned up a bit, and the tip over sensors are removed or the ball inside is glued in place so they don't shut off when running on their side.

pilotdude wrote:

Makes sense. You have more into then Kongols, which is impressive.

pilotdude wrote:

Almost certainly. They would be crazy not to.

ML512 wrote:

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson. Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned...

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson.

Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned up a bit, and the tip over sensors are removed or the ball inside is glued in place so they don't shut off when running on their side.

bvm111 wrote:

[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/07/09/142955/s1200_image.jpg[/img]

ML512 wrote:

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson. Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned...

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson.

Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned up a bit, and the tip over sensors are removed or the ball inside is glued in place so they don't shut off when running on their side.

bvm111 wrote:

Michael, I had no idea what you were talking about.. I went cross eyed when you alstarted talking about Gluing balls so it doesn't stall???

bvm111 wrote:

Michael, I had no idea what you were talking about.. I went cross eyed when you alstarted talking about Gluing balls so it doesn't stall???

ML512 wrote:

Ahh, I didn't think that I would need to explain a tip-over sensor. So here goes: All the manufacture's motocross bikes (I'm not sure what other...

Ahh, I didn't think that I would need to explain a tip-over sensor.

So here goes: All the manufacture's motocross bikes (I'm not sure what other ranges this extends to, I imagine most) have a tip-over sensor, so when the bike is laying down after a slideout or crash, it'll shut off after a certain period of time. This is so the engine will not run while laying on its side for too long, causing a lack of proper oiling throughout the engine and causing increased wear or failures. This is a liability to the manufactures, so production models have this. For race teams however, they either have wiring harnesses that eliminate this from the system, or for the lower budget route you open one up, and glue the small ball inside to the center area so it can't move. Most tip-over sensors are these little containers that have a ball rolling around inside. It moves side-to-side as the bike bounces around, but if it stays on the far end for too long, it signals the bike to shut off (like the bike is laying on its side after a crash). By gluing it in place, this ensures that the system won't kick on and shut the bike off. When the bike has a higher idle and is laying on its side with the rear tire free spinning, they'll mostly run without dying. Some freestyle guys also have to do this, as their bike can shut off during flip tricks for the same reason

pilotdude wrote:

Almost certainly. They would be crazy not to.

ML512 wrote:

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson. Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned...

I've seen their clutch taken apart, it's not an auto-clutch, and it's built by Hinson.

Two things about race team bikes: the idle is typically turned up a bit, and the tip over sensors are removed or the ball inside is glued in place so they don't shut off when running on their side.

bvm111 wrote:

Michael, I had no idea what you were talking about.. I went cross eyed when you alstarted talking about Gluing balls so it doesn't stall???

ML512 wrote:

Ahh, I didn't think that I would need to explain a tip-over sensor. So here goes: All the manufacture's motocross bikes (I'm not sure what other...

Ahh, I didn't think that I would need to explain a tip-over sensor.

So here goes: All the manufacture's motocross bikes (I'm not sure what other ranges this extends to, I imagine most) have a tip-over sensor, so when the bike is laying down after a slideout or crash, it'll shut off after a certain period of time. This is so the engine will not run while laying on its side for too long, causing a lack of proper oiling throughout the engine and causing increased wear or failures. This is a liability to the manufactures, so production models have this. For race teams however, they either have wiring harnesses that eliminate this from the system, or for the lower budget route you open one up, and glue the small ball inside to the center area so it can't move. Most tip-over sensors are these little containers that have a ball rolling around inside. It moves side-to-side as the bike bounces around, but if it stays on the far end for too long, it signals the bike to shut off (like the bike is laying on its side after a crash). By gluing it in place, this ensures that the system won't kick on and shut the bike off. When the bike has a higher idle and is laying on its side with the rear tire free spinning, they'll mostly run without dying. Some freestyle guys also have to do this, as their bike can shut off during flip tricks for the same reason

bvm111 wrote:

Michael, I had no idea what you were talking about.. I went cross eyed when you alstarted talking about Gluing balls so it doesn't stall???

ML512 wrote:

Ahh, I didn't think that I would need to explain a tip-over sensor. So here goes: All the manufacture's motocross bikes (I'm not sure what other...

Ahh, I didn't think that I would need to explain a tip-over sensor.

So here goes: All the manufacture's motocross bikes (I'm not sure what other ranges this extends to, I imagine most) have a tip-over sensor, so when the bike is laying down after a slideout or crash, it'll shut off after a certain period of time. This is so the engine will not run while laying on its side for too long, causing a lack of proper oiling throughout the engine and causing increased wear or failures. This is a liability to the manufactures, so production models have this. For race teams however, they either have wiring harnesses that eliminate this from the system, or for the lower budget route you open one up, and glue the small ball inside to the center area so it can't move. Most tip-over sensors are these little containers that have a ball rolling around inside. It moves side-to-side as the bike bounces around, but if it stays on the far end for too long, it signals the bike to shut off (like the bike is laying on its side after a crash). By gluing it in place, this ensures that the system won't kick on and shut the bike off. When the bike has a higher idle and is laying on its side with the rear tire free spinning, they'll mostly run without dying. Some freestyle guys also have to do this, as their bike can shut off during flip tricks for the same reason

look out below wrote:

Where is the sensor located?

outbackmytrack wrote:

I've seen every street bike with the tip over sensor but never a motocross bike? Show me the part number for a 2007 YZ250F tip over...

I've seen every street bike with the tip over sensor but never a motocross bike?
Show me the part number for a 2007 YZ250F tip over sensor, it doesn't exist.
If ML is sworn to secrecy why would he tell the truth about the auto clutch?
Recluse for sure on Tomac bike, but Hinson does sponsor him.

outbackmytrack wrote:

I've seen every street bike with the tip over sensor but never a motocross bike? Show me the part number for a 2007 YZ250F tip over...

I've seen every street bike with the tip over sensor but never a motocross bike?
Show me the part number for a 2007 YZ250F tip over sensor, it doesn't exist.
If ML is sworn to secrecy why would he tell the truth about the auto clutch?
Recluse for sure on Tomac bike, but Hinson does sponsor him.

ML512 wrote:

I'm going to play conspiracy theorist now... I spy another account logging in from the same location you are actively using.

ML512 wrote:

I pray you're being sarcastic right now... If you're not, you're an idiot... http://www.partsfish.com/oemparts/a/kaw/55c0cd5f87a86612186de957/fuel-injection Part Number: 21176B sensor, vehicle down... We're talking about fuel injected bikes...

I pray you're being sarcastic right now... If you're not, you're an idiot...

http://www.partsfish.com/oemparts/a/kaw/55c0cd5f87a86612186de957/fuel-i…

Part Number: 21176B sensor, vehicle down... We're talking about fuel injected bikes here, not carbureted such as the 2007 YZ250F you're referencing...

I'm sworn to secrecy on the Hinson clutch parts they use, but I can tell you it's not an auto clutch... it's a standard clutch but it's unique in a way.

Even the crew from Rekluse will admit that almost no-one in the motocross pits is using their auto-clutch, currently. The majority of their teams and supported riders have switched over to their Torq-Drive manual system. To put it simply, moto guys prefer the norm... not auto...

jevyguy wrote:

When he grabbed his bike when he went down it didn't even look like he grabbed the clutch. Then he blipped the throttle as he was...

When he grabbed his bike when he went down it didn't even look like he grabbed the clutch. Then he blipped the throttle as he was getting back on and it kinda shot out from him. Wonder if Kawi uses some kind of auto clutch

pete24 wrote:

my two stroke has a tip over sensor, its when my face is pressed firmly into the earth