2016 Beta 300RR - has anyone ridden one?

Uncle_Eddie
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Edited Date/Time 6/6/2016 12:23pm
There's a beta dealer near me and they have a couple in the showroom. The last beta's I rode were trials bikes, which were good bikes. They don't use the KTM motor anymore and have oil injection system on the '16 models like snowmobiles use. Never heard of the suspension they are using, sach's? Has anyone ridden one?

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6/5/2016 12:46pm
The Sachs forks aren't too terrible but the shock fades really bad as soon as it starts to get too warm. I rode a beta 450 in a night desert series last summer and at the last race of the season we received a fox shock off another bike to run and that made it better. I've ridden a '13 250 and it wasn't too bad. I've never rode the 300 tho.

On a side note our night series started last not and I'm kinda bummed im ot doing them this year!


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6/5/2016 12:56pm
this is a little review i did on another site from last weekend... all single track and a small amount of 5th and 6th gear 2track (no moto but i'd love to try it on a natural terrain moto track... it would be sprung and valved way too soft for my local moto track);

spent about 3 hours on a '16 beta 300 over the weekend (very good friend of mine... it had 11 hours prior to me riding it). motor wise the bike is fantastic. it has a hair more snap off the bottom than my lectron equipped '15 300XC. there is a little lag in the mid range... nothing really drastic... just a small section where it feels like it takes a second to really get into the meat of the serious power and seems to rev nearly as high as my KTM. jetting in stock form is VERY good. the forks are better than the '13 i tested in april of '13 (i did not jive well with those forks). much less tendency to dive under hard braking and big whoops. they seem on par with a good friend's RG3 valved '10 300XCW. good on small chop but has a slight harshness in the mid stroke and when pushed hard will blow through the stroke. for fast trail riding the forks are great but i'd revalve it to race. the rear was a little "kicky" at first but we got it pretty darn good with a little fiddling in the high speed compression. really no complaints in the rear at all. handling wise, i loved the seat height for my vertically challenged 5'8" frame. made it very easy to dab in the uber technical areas. handling was good. not stellar but very good. back to back with my 300 it really was difficult to feel the weight, it hides it very well. the bike was a little difficult to get to lay over in ruts... it didn't stand up in them like my buddy's '16 WR450 but it definitely took more thought to really get the bike to aggressively lean over. once in the turn the rear squatted nicely and always did very well on the exit. the bike feels very narrow which works for me very well since i really like to squeeze with my legs. Brian likes his levers much different than i do but the general ergos were very good. one thing i did notice is that the peg to seat relationship seemed to be further than on my 300.... it made the transition from sitting to standing very easy. i was not the only one to notice that.

though the fit and finish was good, there are a few things that seem a little cheap. the plastics seem very thin and the headlight mounting tab was already broken upon delivery. i'm not a huge fan of how the shrouds meet in the middle up on the tank... not sure why but it just looks a little bit of an afterthought as does the exposed tank mounting tab and bolt that is above the cap. also, the tank just seems to have a cheap feel to it.... i can't really explain it... you just have to see it. otherwise the bike is beautiful! the push button seat removal is super nice and i have to say that i love the electronic oil injection. the bike has almost no smoke and absolutely NEVER loads up even when in the really tight areas for extended time when most of your work is done just off idle (the lack of loading up is on par with the lectron).

overall, the bike was a pleasure to ride and is very easy on the eyes. while i wouldn't sell my bike to buy a beta, i wouldn't hesitate to own one for single track riding and racing.
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6/5/2016 1:29pm Edited Date/Time 6/5/2016 1:30pm
i forgot to mention it is BY FAR the quietest bike i have ever ridden. all you can hear when lugging the bike is the chain slapping. my buddy's wife rides a TTR125 and when he was following her when we took the gals out, i literally could not hear him coming over her bike when we were stopping to wait for them. while riding directly behind him, i couldn't tell if the bike was running or not on the downhill sections even if i was right on him. the bike would be a joy to take elk hunting during bow season.
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6/6/2016 10:54am
Good feedback guys, thanks. It looks like a really nice bike but that only goes so far we all know that. I figured they would make a good bike judging by the trials bikes I had ridden in the past. I'm going to be thinking it over but just the fact that they are making a 300 is what really peaked my interest. From what I have read they don't do well on an mx track because of the big hits but single track its said to be a dream. Guess that just means I'll have to keep an mx'er for when we got the track!!

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6/6/2016 11:35am
I rode a 15' 250rr through a rather technical section in some trails and I thought it was pretty good. I prefer the feel of my 15' 250sx that is set up for woods better, but that is really a fair comparison. The rr felt like it had a much more linear power, and seemed like it would be a great woods bike. I would defiantly keep one mind the next time I'm shopping for a bike.
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I got one from this year. Like you said, if you want to do mx they are pretty slow. To slow... Or you need to do some tuning, but it will never be a mx bike! For in the Woods and Some enduro riding the bike is really good! Easy to ride and handle. If rode the 250 to, but you Will be pretty Suprise with it, that there is not much difference between with it. Only a bit more bottom and pull a little longer. But its not that much.
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6/6/2016 12:23pm
Good feedback guys, thanks. It looks like a really nice bike but that only goes so far we all know that. I figured they would make...
Good feedback guys, thanks. It looks like a really nice bike but that only goes so far we all know that. I figured they would make a good bike judging by the trials bikes I had ridden in the past. I'm going to be thinking it over but just the fact that they are making a 300 is what really peaked my interest. From what I have read they don't do well on an mx track because of the big hits but single track its said to be a dream. Guess that just means I'll have to keep an mx'er for when we got the track!!
I have a friend with a 15' 300RR who rides Hodges a lot and he loves his. I haven't ridden it yet.
He did the Stimilon event at NHMX recently and it was okay there, but that isn't as jumpy as the rest of the New England tracks. (it's the best Vet track in New England though.) So it depends where you ride.

If you woods reg in Mass, make sure you go to Worcester and not Fall River. The difficult lady in Fall River has been confused by not knowing the brand. That was posted in another forum.
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New to the site but not new to Beta..... Dave here from Motoworx/Racetech Beta located in Hatfield Ma. My son have ridden and raced Beta's for the last 2 years with great results. If you have any questions feel free to hit me up. Also if you or others ever want to test ride one give me a shout. We truly race what we sell.
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6/6/2016 8:02pm
a guy named Cody Webb rode a Stillwell tuned bike to an Enduro cross title. His bike ripped. With 300cc the engine can be tuned the way you want it. Nice to not follow sheep and ride something different.
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6/6/2016 9:47pm
Dope bike for off road. Have an Xtrainer and have spent much time of the 300rr. The beta makes me a better rider in the tech stuff. Sending it over single track, climb or rocks? In its element. Sending it over a triple or long rolling whoops? Not so much. great motor. I also have a Ktm 250xc and love both bikes.
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A glowing review here: http://dirtbiketest.com/bike-tests/2016-beta-300rr/



I have a '15 500 RS 4 stroke street legal enduro. It is a great do it all bike that is much more suitable for MX than the KTM 500 EXC due to the Beta having linkage (like the Husky). The Beta doesn't need to apologize for it's MX capability at all, it rips. Stock Sachs suspension is very capable.




Lot's of good info to be found here:

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/353-beta/

http://www.betarider.org/forum/index.php?sid=7e772ad8b910d59947a0b7413b…
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6/7/2016 5:59am Edited Date/Time 6/7/2016 6:09am
finally something interesting! we need more of these to balance out the "2004 XYZ125 head gasket" posts.
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6/7/2016 8:51am
Just found out there is a Beta dealer 5mi up the road from my new house. I need to stop in and go check them out
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6/8/2016 5:03pm
The thing I thought was the coolest improvement is the oil injection. Makes sense to do for woods since your not always on the pipe like mx. I'm really considering pulling the trigger on a 16 300rr. Would be my 1st new bike in a long time and first enduring. Or woods specific bike. Always had mx
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6/8/2016 6:06pm Edited Date/Time 6/8/2016 6:09pm
There's a beta dealer near me and they have a couple in the showroom. The last beta's I rode were trials bikes, which were good bikes...
There's a beta dealer near me and they have a couple in the showroom. The last beta's I rode were trials bikes, which were good bikes. They don't use the KTM motor anymore and have oil injection system on the '16 models like snowmobiles use. Never heard of the suspension they are using, sach's? Has anyone ridden one?

Sachs has been around for ages.

I believe you can spec them with Marzocchi's which is the fork all their team guys run. BYOB program or one of the "race" additions if I'm not mistaken.
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6/8/2016 11:03pm
I rode a 15 250RR a while back. Really loved the ergonomics. Was a really easy bike to ride. Found it lacked the punch of the 250EXC. Couldn't really assess the suspension with how tight the track was.
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Hello
I just wanted to add a few bits of info here. We race and sell Beta's in the Northeast. The 2016 models are almost all sold out. Beta in general has had a 30% increase in bikes sale in the last year so sourcing some models is very tough. The 300 RR model is oil injected but is also sold out for 2016. I have called many local dealers from Ohio to Maine down to Jersey trying to purchase or swap out for the 300 RR and have very little luck. I may have missed one but they do not sit very long before selling. Beta has told us dealers that they will hold the 2017 release around July time frame. Many dealers are taking deposits to hold some of the first units to be shipped which should start to arrive at the dealers after August. We will order more of the RR and Race editions for 2017 so if I can be of any help please look me up. We have shop racers competing in C,B,A and AA Classes. Many of them run the Netra, Jday GNCC and some ECEA events.
Thanks
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How good is the oil injection on them Big Dave? Any issues?

That's the one thing i'd love to do away with for a do it all, or should I say, the only reason I am still considering a FE rather than a TE Husky.
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6/9/2016 5:49am
We have run an X Trainer which runs the oil injection since August of last year. The bike has been perfect but we did up the main jet one size and 1 slot on the stock needle. We have raced it at every Netra since without an issue. Keep in mind oil injection in 2016 was only on the RR standard bikes and not on the Race editions. I think there thought process was most racers would not trust it with out giving it a few years. I know most Enduro and Turkey run guys want the oil injection. Plus they come with a 6 month warranty......Smile
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6/9/2016 11:21am
The other bike I was looking into is the 16 yz250x. Was pretty excited to see Yamaha getting into the mix. Although it doesn't have all the bells n whistles, it's about 1500 cheaper, maybe a little more
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6/9/2016 11:23am
Dave I appreciate all the info. I'm definitely going to stop by your shop when I'm out in western mass. Who knows, I might have a big check to hand you if things work out

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