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whats the best value for money for a 250f?
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A new one
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A new one
really?
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Kinda a open question there ? If I was buying a new 250f Yamaha would be my first choice. Or a KTM If you are just looking for a good bike for the least amount of money then I would say the Suzuki. . I loved my RMZ. But Suzuki had the worst support and there service sucked
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OR Racer46 wrote:
Kinda a open question there ? If I was buying a new 250f Yamaha would be my first choice. Or a KTM If you are just...
Kinda a open question there ? If I was buying a new 250f Yamaha would be my first choice. Or a KTM If you are just looking for a good bike for the least amount of money then I would say the Suzuki. . I loved my RMZ. But Suzuki had the worst support and there service sucked
what about second hand? i cant afford a new one

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Your budget is going to greatly dictate the answer. I don't know your local market nor what your budget is but honestly a mid 2000s (2002-2007) two stroke would probably be a good buy. I noticed from other threads that you are new to the sport? If you're new to riding don't get too caught up in what bike is "better". They'll all be more than capable as long as you get a motocross bike. You could even get a trail bike and learn to ride on a motocross track but you will progress out of that bike eventually so I'm not recommending that.

Buying any bike second hand brings previous maintenance and internal condition into question. Two strokes can be rebuilt for a fraction of the cost of a four stroke which is one reason why some people still like them. Buying a four stroke second hand isn't something you should be scared of but it's important to get as much correct information from the seller as possible such as how the bike was ridden, what maintenance has been done and if anything has been rebuilt so you know what you're getting yourself into mechanically.
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Your budget is going to greatly dictate the answer. I don't know your local market nor what your budget is but honestly a mid 2000s (2002-2007)...
Your budget is going to greatly dictate the answer. I don't know your local market nor what your budget is but honestly a mid 2000s (2002-2007) two stroke would probably be a good buy. I noticed from other threads that you are new to the sport? If you're new to riding don't get too caught up in what bike is "better". They'll all be more than capable as long as you get a motocross bike. You could even get a trail bike and learn to ride on a motocross track but you will progress out of that bike eventually so I'm not recommending that.

Buying any bike second hand brings previous maintenance and internal condition into question. Two strokes can be rebuilt for a fraction of the cost of a four stroke which is one reason why some people still like them. Buying a four stroke second hand isn't something you should be scared of but it's important to get as much correct information from the seller as possible such as how the bike was ridden, what maintenance has been done and if anything has been rebuilt so you know what you're getting yourself into mechanically.
Yeah im looking to get involved asap! is a 4 stroke more reliable then a 2 stroke?

Big help, thanks mate
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The early honda 250f ate valves like candy. The Suzukis had transmission problems. The KTM wear junk Yamaha was solid . O6 and later all the bikes were getting better by 10 they all were efi but Yamaha . I would not buy a 1500 dollar 250f. But I would not hesitate to buy a 1500 dollar 2 stroke
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OR Racer46 wrote:
The early honda 250f ate valves like candy. The Suzukis had transmission problems. The KTM wear junk Yamaha was solid . O6 and later all the...
The early honda 250f ate valves like candy. The Suzukis had transmission problems. The KTM wear junk Yamaha was solid . O6 and later all the bikes were getting better by 10 they all were efi but Yamaha . I would not buy a 1500 dollar 250f. But I would not hesitate to buy a 1500 dollar 2 stroke
how come the 2 stroke? arent 4 strokes more reliable?
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49 wrote:
how come the 2 stroke? arent 4 strokes more reliable?
4 strokes are more reliable when you talk about play bikes, which doesn't include 2 strokes. 2 strokes are more reliable in the sense that they're easier to fix and have less parts to break (or cause a catostrophic failure) but 2 strokes wear out piston/rings a little faster.
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potatoflake wrote:
A new one
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really?
Just keep in mind you get what you pay for, used bikes don't come with a company that has to stand behind its product
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49 wrote:
how come the 2 stroke? arent 4 strokes more reliable?
colintrax wrote:
4 strokes are more reliable when you talk about play bikes, which doesn't include 2 strokes. 2 strokes are more reliable in the sense that they're...
4 strokes are more reliable when you talk about play bikes, which doesn't include 2 strokes. 2 strokes are more reliable in the sense that they're easier to fix and have less parts to break (or cause a catostrophic failure) but 2 strokes wear out piston/rings a little faster.
ahh that makes sense, im swaying towards a yz125, but who knows at the moment i swap an change my mind every 5 mins haha
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OR Racer46 wrote:
Kinda a open question there ? If I was buying a new 250f Yamaha would be my first choice. Or a KTM If you are just...
Kinda a open question there ? If I was buying a new 250f Yamaha would be my first choice. Or a KTM If you are just looking for a good bike for the least amount of money then I would say the Suzuki. . I loved my RMZ. But Suzuki had the worst support and there service sucked
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what about second hand? i cant afford a new one
a 2 stroke. if you cant afford a new 250f, you arent going to want to afford the 3k rebuild build on your 3k motorcycle.
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49 wrote:
how come the 2 stroke? arent 4 strokes more reliable?
colintrax wrote:
4 strokes are more reliable when you talk about play bikes, which doesn't include 2 strokes. 2 strokes are more reliable in the sense that they're...
4 strokes are more reliable when you talk about play bikes, which doesn't include 2 strokes. 2 strokes are more reliable in the sense that they're easier to fix and have less parts to break (or cause a catostrophic failure) but 2 strokes wear out piston/rings a little faster.
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ahh that makes sense, im swaying towards a yz125, but who knows at the moment i swap an change my mind every 5 mins haha
The YZ125 is an excellent bike. If you don't have a huge budget, it would be a perfect bike to start with.

I am in the middle of a frame-up rebuild of my 2011 YZ125 this week. It's pretty cool that it doesn't cost all that much to do. All the bearings in the engine and chassis, suspension rebuild, chain, sprockets, etc. and I will be under $1500 for all of the parts (almost entirely OEM Yamaha). It's hard to do a 250F engine for $1500 even with low quality parts.

In my opinion, you're actually better off with the YZ125 even if you have an unlimited budget. The light weight bike with less torque will teach you to be a more efficient rider. A few years later, when you decide to move up to a larger bike, you will have some skills that the 250cc bike just won't teach you.

When you decide you need more, you can always rebuld your YZ125 with a 144cc kit.
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cwtoyota wrote:
The YZ125 is an excellent bike. If you don't have a huge budget, it would be a perfect bike to start with. I am in the...
The YZ125 is an excellent bike. If you don't have a huge budget, it would be a perfect bike to start with.

I am in the middle of a frame-up rebuild of my 2011 YZ125 this week. It's pretty cool that it doesn't cost all that much to do. All the bearings in the engine and chassis, suspension rebuild, chain, sprockets, etc. and I will be under $1500 for all of the parts (almost entirely OEM Yamaha). It's hard to do a 250F engine for $1500 even with low quality parts.

In my opinion, you're actually better off with the YZ125 even if you have an unlimited budget. The light weight bike with less torque will teach you to be a more efficient rider. A few years later, when you decide to move up to a larger bike, you will have some skills that the 250cc bike just won't teach you.

When you decide you need more, you can always rebuld your YZ125 with a 144cc kit.
Bingo. ^^^^
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2500 should get you one in good condition one 2006-2009,

but depends on your budget



reliable is subjective. the difference between 2 and 4 stroke is when a 2 stroke engine is needing rebuilt, the rings and piston wear out fast and so power loss is very noticable. so replacing the top end is regular thing ~$120 at about 15-20 hours

a 4 stroke doesnt have a noticable sound or power loss when its worn out. but if oil is kept fresh and not ridden hard, it can last for hours. but when it does need to be fixed it can be pricey. a top end in parts is about $200, but if you need valves, crank etc the price climbs. top end about 50 hours-bottom end 100 hours is possible,
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If you're dead set on a 4t I would recommend a YZ250F from 07-13 ( I think ) minimal changes and a good solid platform that's reliable as long as it's been a bit babied ( not rev bounced everywhere )... A less 'common' race used model due to some lower power outputs they can be brought reasonably 'cheap' in great condition. I purchase mine with well under 20hours at a 1/4 of the new price.

Now as for my actual recommendation-YZ125 all the way!
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Phillip_Lamb wrote:
2500 should get you one in good condition one 2006-2009, but depends on your budget reliable is subjective. the difference between 2 and 4 stroke is...
2500 should get you one in good condition one 2006-2009,

but depends on your budget



reliable is subjective. the difference between 2 and 4 stroke is when a 2 stroke engine is needing rebuilt, the rings and piston wear out fast and so power loss is very noticable. so replacing the top end is regular thing ~$120 at about 15-20 hours

a 4 stroke doesnt have a noticable sound or power loss when its worn out. but if oil is kept fresh and not ridden hard, it can last for hours. but when it does need to be fixed it can be pricey. a top end in parts is about $200, but if you need valves, crank etc the price climbs. top end about 50 hours-bottom end 100 hours is possible,
OP keep in mind the hours he's quoting are for a faster more experienced rider. As a beginner you'll get 40 hours out of a 125 top end and 100 from a 250F mxer. 150 from a 250F trail bike.
I'd also mention that when doing a top end on a 4 stroke it's advisable to replace the timing chain.
4 strokes also need valve clearance checked occasionally. About as often as you'd do a top end on a 2 stroke.

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