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Some products do work. They're proven to work and really aren't disputable.
So much so the winners of contests didnt even enter.....when they saw their own pics saying they won, they responded that they had never entered nor heard of the contest.
All a scam. All marketing to sheep.
Are you a sheep?
Imagine your pics being promoted as a winner of a SX race by a moto company.
You'd be like WTF!?
Or worse...a trainer saying he trained you and you won a SX race.
Double Wtf! Yep that shit happens
You have to be joking right????????
Ill take Dungeys endorsement. One of the most upstanding guys in the sport right now, if not ever.
Keep trying to downplay the guys product, guys using it regularly that don't endorse it. That should tell you something.
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Let me start be addressing your claims.
I find it odd that you have a sports medicine degree, yet you think you can effectively expand fascia on a table ledge or other household items. What other "Household items" can you think of that can expand the fascia and create a stretch and lengthening of the forearm flexor muscles as well as a 4Arm Strong? Also, considering 4Arm Strong works best right before you ride or race, which of these house hold items would you take to the track with you?
Since I am a certified therapist with an expertise in treating soft tissue, how can this technique be done without a device? Consider the 4Arm Strong tractions your forearm muscles/tissue toward your elbow while you stretch in the opposite direction. How would you do that without a device, or without a therapist standing in front of you? Or am I missing the household item that can do this?
Maybe this will help:
As an Active Release Techniques therapist (pre 4Arm Strong) to get a similar result as the 4Arm Strong I would stand in front of my client, (who by the way was Ken Roczen, Broc Tickle, Dean Wilson, and a few other pretty fast guys) and grip their forearms with both hands. One of my thumbs would be on the forearm flexor muscles, called the contact, and one thumb would be on top of the contact thumb. I need to use both hands and thumbs when I perform this technique because it takes quite a bit of force to tension down into the tissue, then traction toward the elbow, while the client pushes their hand toward me, extending their arm and doing a forearm stretch. This is what it takes to expand fascia to the point you will create more space in the forearm compartment which is what reduces arm pump and increases grip strength. Please tell me how you can do this by yourself. The truth is, only a 4Arm Strong can create a similar amount of tension and traction as an ART therapist.
If your point is you can expand fascia without opposing traction or tension, you are incorrect. You can do a minimal amount of fascial release with a lacrosse ball or table ledge, but nothing that would translate into the type of result you would get from a 4Arm Strong or ART therapist.
You call my product a scam, then you call the consumers on this thread and some of the best motocross trainers and riders in the world uneducated, then follow that with, "Can't be more than $5 to make it." Do you also have experience in manufacturing? Can you name the materials required to manufacture a 4Arm Strong? Can you tell me how much a mold costs that is required to make the 4Arm Strong cuff? Tell you what, I will give you a chance to make a ton of money! If you can make a 4Arm Strong for $5, I will buy 10,0000 for $10. That's a $50,000 profit for you!
4Arm Strong won't work for everyone. Some people just have fascia that is too tight. However, out of 1000 4Arm Strongs in circulation since August of 2015, I have only had 4 people tell me it didn't work for them and only one wanted their money back. There may be more, however only 4 have contacted me. On the other hand, hundreds of people have told me 4Arm Strong has changed their life. The three top trainers on the American motocross scene, Aldon Baker (Dungey, Anderson, Musquin), Gareth Swanepoel (Aaron Plessinger, Cooper Web, Alex Martin, Broc Tickle) and Tyla Rattray, (Jessie Nelson, Shane McElrath and Mitchel Oldenburg) swear by the 4Arm Strong and use it regularly with their riders. Only Cooper Web doesn't use it to my knowledge.
From the beginning I have tried to answer everyone's question. I personally answer the phone when someone calls from the web site. I answer all the emails. I stand behind my product and I try to give the best customer service possible. Yet it is really too bad when someone like you takes the time to write a post like this without any true knowledge of the product.
Hopefully you aren't feeling so sick now! If you can make the 4Arm Strong for $5, you should be stoked!
Either way. Good luck!
And let's not talk $5 or $10. But how about a ballpark percentage of markup? Then let's see how that compares to the average. That should do the trick. Obviously you wouldn't. Your a business man.
In hindsight, I have no issue paying $160 for this tool. I have found it to be very helpful for me. Everyone is a little different anatomically, so results will vary from person to person. But this worked for me and I will continue to use it. And lastly, I have absolutely no affiliation with the manufacturer or developer.
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I've been using mine on and off for the past few weeks , and I can tell you right now that electrical tape and two marbles will do absolutely nothing compared to what this device can.
Can you please show your ideas in a picture or a video of what you would use at the track ( by yourself ) to release pressure on your forearms?
You can talk all day long , but until I see it ( or anyone else here ) can see it....you're blowing smoke.
Here is a video on fascia release using a lacross ball. These same methods can be applied on a smaller scale to the forearm using golf balls, marbles, anything solid and round and fitting to what size muscle is being rolled. If you want me to make a video myself, I gladly will for the low price of $160. And my video will be the only way to get results. Nobody else's video will work. Just mine
I would still be interested in seeing a device that a " single dude " could use on his own at the track that would work as well as the 4arm strong device. Something besides electrical tape and marbles would be good.
And if you try and say a " forearm roller " works...they do NOT even come close to what this device does. I know because i owned one a few years ago and it was indeed worthless. Top and bottom rollers with adjusting spring tension on top is what i had.
I'm not trying to be a dick , but you talked a huge game and have yet to prove one single thing you have said. What i see now is a bunch of back peddling.
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