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Jrewing 4/18/2016 3:12pm
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He needs to miss his first year of supercross and come in with motocross for his first season stateside...
How many times has supercross banged up a guys chances?
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Him and to roczen will be the Honda superteam with not a doping southafrican in sight!
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I agree. But he gets full attention from the team he is in on his MX2 bike, so I don't see why that should be any...
I agree. But he gets full attention from the team he is in on his MX2 bike, so I don't see why that should be any difference if he goes onto a 450 and stays in the same rig. It's a complicated situation, and one many dismiss when criticising him for still being in MX2.
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Well re-signing Cairoli for that long was a mistake to begin with by the looks of things. Now they are tied up to a big salary...
Well re-signing Cairoli for that long was a mistake to begin with by the looks of things. Now they are tied up to a big salary with a guy that looks like he should be very happy if he wins a GP this year.

They must sell a lot of KTMs in Italy to warrant that long term contract.

I wonder what they will do with Pootjes next year though if he doesnt up his results in the 2nd half of the season. He's not riding as a guy that KTM wants to have as #2 in MX2 next to Jonass.
Write off Cairoli at your peril. The guy is an absolute class act in every sense. He'll be back, just wait till the European season is in full swing. He's been struggling with fitness and with a few weeks off now it wouldn't surprise me to see him firing in Latvia. In my opinion if everyone stayed fit last year he would've been champ again. I'm yet to see anywhere near enough to write him off just yet
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Herlings must be wondering why he stayed in 250 class for so long.
bvm111 wrote:
My guess is his bank account isn't wondering anything at all at the moment... He is a professional riding in a professional series, let it go!
Paul333 wrote:
An age limited support class, intended only for younger/new to GP riders to gain experience.

Herlings isn't any of those things..
Age limit is to prevent guys from pulling a Davalos and occupying quality rides past their prime. EMX125 and EMX250 is intended for young rider experience.

Could he have moved up to MXGP and won? I bet so. Is he retiring anytime soon? I bet not. Does staying down a few extra years to hone his racecraft give him a chance to prolong his career? Possibly. Let him sweep MX2 this year and move up next year. Shit, if he was in an MXGP battle there would never be the annual summer rumor of him racing Southwick. I hope he loses a moto before then just so he has to find some new motivation aside from his insurmountable points lead.

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MXMattii wrote:
Rules make it impossible to ride 250 in Supercross. Rulebook says: "Riders who have earned an AMA 450 MX class Championship, AMA 450SX class Championship or...
Rules make it impossible to ride 250 in Supercross.

Rulebook says: "Riders who have earned an AMA 450 MX class Championship, AMA 450SX class Championship or FIM MXGP World Championship are not eligible to compete in the 250SX East/West Championship"

Source: End of page 40
mac3-d wrote:
So if TG 243 gets 2nd he's OK to race SX 250
He would race SX 450 anyways.
He hates the small bike. It used it only for the GP's in 2015 and did all the training on a 450!!
For a long time he's been saying that he feels a lot more comfortable on a big bike.

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RG1 wrote:
I agree. But he gets full attention from the team he is in on his MX2 bike, so I don't see why that should be any...
I agree. But he gets full attention from the team he is in on his MX2 bike, so I don't see why that should be any difference if he goes onto a 450 and stays in the same rig. It's a complicated situation, and one many dismiss when criticising him for still being in MX2.
roninho wrote:
Well re-signing Cairoli for that long was a mistake to begin with by the looks of things. Now they are tied up to a big salary...
Well re-signing Cairoli for that long was a mistake to begin with by the looks of things. Now they are tied up to a big salary with a guy that looks like he should be very happy if he wins a GP this year.

They must sell a lot of KTMs in Italy to warrant that long term contract.

I wonder what they will do with Pootjes next year though if he doesnt up his results in the 2nd half of the season. He's not riding as a guy that KTM wants to have as #2 in MX2 next to Jonass.
RG1 wrote:
Write off Cairoli at your peril. The guy is an absolute class act in every sense. He'll be back, just wait till the European season is...
Write off Cairoli at your peril. The guy is an absolute class act in every sense. He'll be back, just wait till the European season is in full swing. He's been struggling with fitness and with a few weeks off now it wouldn't surprise me to see him firing in Latvia. In my opinion if everyone stayed fit last year he would've been champ again. I'm yet to see anywhere near enough to write him off just yet
Cairoli is the Valentino Rossi equivalent in MXGP. The amount of championships both of them have won speaks for their talent. They both have the experience and savvy to pull off winning the championship, but those young guys gunning for them haven't made it easy. I wouldn't not count out Cairoli either, just look at Rossi last year he nearly won the MotoGP title at 36! For riders with the accomplishments they have, I don't think teams are dumb to sign them long term, even if they aren't winning championships, they still have marketing draw.
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Money 4/18/2016 7:37pm
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bvm111 wrote:
My guess is his bank account isn't wondering anything at all at the moment... He is a professional riding in a professional series, let it go!
Paul333 wrote:
An age limited support class, intended only for younger/new to GP riders to gain experience.

Herlings isn't any of those things..
aFACEdismembered wrote:
Age limit is to prevent guys from pulling a Davalos and occupying quality rides past their prime. EMX125 and EMX250 is intended for young rider experience...
Age limit is to prevent guys from pulling a Davalos and occupying quality rides past their prime. EMX125 and EMX250 is intended for young rider experience.

Could he have moved up to MXGP and won? I bet so. Is he retiring anytime soon? I bet not. Does staying down a few extra years to hone his racecraft give him a chance to prolong his career? Possibly. Let him sweep MX2 this year and move up next year. Shit, if he was in an MXGP battle there would never be the annual summer rumor of him racing Southwick. I hope he loses a moto before then just so he has to find some new motivation aside from his insurmountable points lead.
It would be cool to see him finally come over for a one off race with the big gp breakin July.
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Money wrote:
Herlings is gonna make them boys battle for second next year
struth wrote:
Doubt it fevbre n gajser r on herlings level easily....excluding deep sand... Herlings is not getting any faster raceing the mx2 class Vg 92 beaT herlings...
Doubt it fevbre n gajser r on herlings level easily....excluding deep sand...
Herlings is not getting any faster raceing the mx2 class
Vg 92 beaT herlings stright up few timez last year.
Never thought this day would come, but.... I agree with struth.
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HyperKinetic wrote:
Cairoli is the Valentino Rossi equivalent in MXGP. The amount of championships both of them have won speaks for their talent. They both have the experience...
Cairoli is the Valentino Rossi equivalent in MXGP. The amount of championships both of them have won speaks for their talent. They both have the experience and savvy to pull off winning the championship, but those young guys gunning for them haven't made it easy. I wouldn't not count out Cairoli either, just look at Rossi last year he nearly won the MotoGP title at 36! For riders with the accomplishments they have, I don't think teams are dumb to sign them long term, even if they aren't winning championships, they still have marketing draw.
Yep I agree with this.

I must admit Tim Gajser has been a real surprise to me much like Febvre last year.
Just when you think their "Rookie Luck" is going to run out and they might wad up they keep getting more confidence and are consistently up front.

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RG1 4/18/2016 10:27pm
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roninho wrote:
Well re-signing Cairoli for that long was a mistake to begin with by the looks of things. Now they are tied up to a big salary...
Well re-signing Cairoli for that long was a mistake to begin with by the looks of things. Now they are tied up to a big salary with a guy that looks like he should be very happy if he wins a GP this year.

They must sell a lot of KTMs in Italy to warrant that long term contract.

I wonder what they will do with Pootjes next year though if he doesnt up his results in the 2nd half of the season. He's not riding as a guy that KTM wants to have as #2 in MX2 next to Jonass.
RG1 wrote:
Write off Cairoli at your peril. The guy is an absolute class act in every sense. He'll be back, just wait till the European season is...
Write off Cairoli at your peril. The guy is an absolute class act in every sense. He'll be back, just wait till the European season is in full swing. He's been struggling with fitness and with a few weeks off now it wouldn't surprise me to see him firing in Latvia. In my opinion if everyone stayed fit last year he would've been champ again. I'm yet to see anywhere near enough to write him off just yet
HyperKinetic wrote:
Cairoli is the Valentino Rossi equivalent in MXGP. The amount of championships both of them have won speaks for their talent. They both have the experience...
Cairoli is the Valentino Rossi equivalent in MXGP. The amount of championships both of them have won speaks for their talent. They both have the experience and savvy to pull off winning the championship, but those young guys gunning for them haven't made it easy. I wouldn't not count out Cairoli either, just look at Rossi last year he nearly won the MotoGP title at 36! For riders with the accomplishments they have, I don't think teams are dumb to sign them long term, even if they aren't winning championships, they still have marketing draw.
People seem to forget too that Cairoli is still only 30, not 35. He should be right in the middle of his peak years physically. I honestly just think he's struggling with the effects of the injury he had before the season started. Hopefully he and Desalle will be close to 100% when Latvia comes around and we'll see them back up where they belong
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jamma10 4/19/2016 1:29am
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Paul333 wrote:
An age limited support class, intended only for younger/new to GP riders to gain experience.

Herlings isn't any of those things..
aFACEdismembered wrote:
Age limit is to prevent guys from pulling a Davalos and occupying quality rides past their prime. EMX125 and EMX250 is intended for young rider experience...
Age limit is to prevent guys from pulling a Davalos and occupying quality rides past their prime. EMX125 and EMX250 is intended for young rider experience.

Could he have moved up to MXGP and won? I bet so. Is he retiring anytime soon? I bet not. Does staying down a few extra years to hone his racecraft give him a chance to prolong his career? Possibly. Let him sweep MX2 this year and move up next year. Shit, if he was in an MXGP battle there would never be the annual summer rumor of him racing Southwick. I hope he loses a moto before then just so he has to find some new motivation aside from his insurmountable points lead.
Money wrote:
It would be cool to see him finally come over for a one off race with the big gp breakin July.
Quite a good podcast interview with Herlings recorded after Leon.
Langston_fan 4/19/2016 1:44am
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crusty_xx wrote:
Seewer will win the title next year. As will Tonus in the US. And then Switzerland will go on and dominate the mxdn at Glen Helen...
Seewer will win the title next year. As will Tonus in the US.
And then Switzerland will go on and dominate the mxdn at Glen Helen with Guillod as the 3rd man.
How about that? Evil
^^^^^^^^^ THIS Evil Evil Evil Evil

Love Gajser's riding style...currently hunting for links of the Leon race...and I don't know the results...reading everything with one eye closed Tongue Blink Pinch

As a long time Albee, Langston and Tortelli fan....I think Gajser going to the US is a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad idea.
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Motofinne 4/19/2016 1:51am
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I think it's pretty obvious that Gajser is an prime example of a rider that is way better on a bigger bike. He won the mx2 championship last year but he was really, really sketchy on the 250 multiple times. He looks way better on the 450!
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Jrewing 4/19/2016 4:06am
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Anyone notice that when Cairoli fixed his teeth his results tapered downwards...
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roninho wrote:
Well re-signing Cairoli for that long was a mistake to begin with by the looks of things. Now they are tied up to a big salary...
Well re-signing Cairoli for that long was a mistake to begin with by the looks of things. Now they are tied up to a big salary with a guy that looks like he should be very happy if he wins a GP this year.

They must sell a lot of KTMs in Italy to warrant that long term contract.

I wonder what they will do with Pootjes next year though if he doesnt up his results in the 2nd half of the season. He's not riding as a guy that KTM wants to have as #2 in MX2 next to Jonass.
Rowlands wrote:
I think they will keep Davy, who else his age can beat him ? I think KTM are really good at picking the next best rider.
Alvin Ostlund is in the top 10 in points right now...
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Rowlands 4/19/2016 4:44am
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Alvin Ostlund is in the top 10 in points right now...
On paper I still think Pootjes is the quicker guy he just hasn't had as much luck this season. Can't see KTM signing Ostlund over Pootjes. In all fairness I hadn't noticed Alvin having such a good year props to him !
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RG1 4/19/2016 6:42am
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Jrewing wrote:
Anyone notice that when Cairoli fixed his teeth his results tapered downwards...
I'm not sure there's a direct correlation between teeth size and motocross results. But his chances of winning the Eating an Apple Through a Tennis Racket Competition have severely diminished
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RG1 4/19/2016 6:43am
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kaidoddragon wrote:
Alvin Ostlund is in the top 10 in points right now...
Rowlands wrote:
On paper I still think Pootjes is the quicker guy he just hasn't had as much luck this season. Can't see KTM signing Ostlund over Pootjes...
On paper I still think Pootjes is the quicker guy he just hasn't had as much luck this season. Can't see KTM signing Ostlund over Pootjes. In all fairness I hadn't noticed Alvin having such a good year props to him !
I think both Ben Watson and Adam Sterry could at least match what Pootjes is doing if they were given the same equipment

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kaidoddragon wrote:
Alvin Ostlund is in the top 10 in points right now...
Rowlands wrote:
On paper I still think Pootjes is the quicker guy he just hasn't had as much luck this season. Can't see KTM signing Ostlund over Pootjes...
On paper I still think Pootjes is the quicker guy he just hasn't had as much luck this season. Can't see KTM signing Ostlund over Pootjes. In all fairness I hadn't noticed Alvin having such a good year props to him !
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I think both Ben Watson and Adam Sterry could at least match what Pootjes is doing if they were given the same equipment
First goal is to stay in one piece, something both are not very good at.
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RG1 4/19/2016 7:38am
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First goal is to stay in one piece, something both are not very good at.
Both are better than Pootjes. Mexico was the first race Ben missed through injury that I can remember in a long long time. Same with Sterry, other than his broken wrist in Qatar I can't ever remember him missing races through injury since he turned pro.
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DeStouwer 4/19/2016 7:48am
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DeStouwer wrote:
First goal is to stay in one piece, something both are not very good at.
RG1 wrote:
Both are better than Pootjes. Mexico was the first race Ben missed through injury that I can remember in a long long time. Same with Sterry...
Both are better than Pootjes. Mexico was the first race Ben missed through injury that I can remember in a long long time. Same with Sterry, other than his broken wrist in Qatar I can't ever remember him missing races through injury since he turned pro.
Well, Watson didn't start in Argentina due to said injury. Last year he crashed out of Qatar and DNS-ed the second heat. Later in the year he crashed again a couple of times, with no big injuries, but no points either. How talented he may be, those are not the results any factoryteam is keen on.

Sterry just has bad luck now with his wrist, but that doesn't change the situation.

Plus, Pootjes still raced 125cc's two years ago and is younger. I think it's safe to say he is more talented.
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RG1 4/19/2016 7:55am
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jamma10 wrote:
Quite a good podcast interview with Herlings recorded after Leon.
I think Herlings has really matured this season. You can tell in the way he rides he doesn't rush to try and get to the front immediately if he doesn't get the start he just takes his time and lets the race come to him. His interviews are much better too. He seems very calculated and humble, he seems to have really learned from his mistakes, which is great to see
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jamma10 wrote:
Quite a good podcast interview with Herlings recorded after Leon.
RG1 wrote:
I think Herlings has really matured this season. You can tell in the way he rides he doesn't rush to try and get to the front...
I think Herlings has really matured this season. You can tell in the way he rides he doesn't rush to try and get to the front immediately if he doesn't get the start he just takes his time and lets the race come to him. His interviews are much better too. He seems very calculated and humble, he seems to have really learned from his mistakes, which is great to see
Matching MXGP laptimes Tongue

Not enough oxygen in Leon to have enough hp to reach that goal.
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NVA57 4/19/2016 8:36am
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Becoming a big fan of Gajser lately. Did not expected these results but he stays very humble in his interview. He even said the shroud that came loose wasn't an excuse for losing the lead.
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People seem to forget too that Cairoli is still only 30, not 35. He should be right in the middle of his peak years physically. I...
People seem to forget too that Cairoli is still only 30, not 35. He should be right in the middle of his peak years physically. I honestly just think he's struggling with the effects of the injury he had before the season started. Hopefully he and Desalle will be close to 100% when Latvia comes around and we'll see them back up where they belong
Physical peak? I think that is a shit story. I think the length of the career is more important and knowing his career is already 12 years old. As MX Racer you can compete max 12 years on the highest level, injury years doesn't count.

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Money wrote:
Herlings is gonna make them boys battle for second next year
struth wrote:
Doubt it fevbre n gajser r on herlings level easily....excluding deep sand... Herlings is not getting any faster raceing the mx2 class Vg 92 beaT herlings...
Doubt it fevbre n gajser r on herlings level easily....excluding deep sand...
Herlings is not getting any faster raceing the mx2 class
Vg 92 beaT herlings stright up few timez last year.
mx836 wrote:
Never thought this day would come, but.... I agree with struth.
oh come on , like Herlings was anything like he is this year .... how many injuries did he have last year ?? you really think VG92 would beat Herlings in healthy and fit conditions , like he is this year ?? LOL not Guilod or Gajser would beat him ....
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I don't see anyone beating Herlings. He would be top 3 in mxgp on the 250f
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themrtoad 4/19/2016 2:17pm
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I don't see anyone beating Herlings. He would be top 3 in mxgp on the 250f
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struth wrote:
Doubt it fevbre n gajser r on herlings level easily....excluding deep sand... Herlings is not getting any faster raceing the mx2 class Vg 92 beaT herlings...
Doubt it fevbre n gajser r on herlings level easily....excluding deep sand...
Herlings is not getting any faster raceing the mx2 class
Vg 92 beaT herlings stright up few timez last year.
mx836 wrote:
Never thought this day would come, but.... I agree with struth.
RichardLoots wrote:
oh come on , like Herlings was anything like he is this year .... how many injuries did he have last year ?? you really think...
oh come on , like Herlings was anything like he is this year .... how many injuries did he have last year ?? you really think VG92 would beat Herlings in healthy and fit conditions , like he is this year ?? LOL not Guilod or Gajser would beat him ....
Guillod? Nope. Gasjer? Yes he could probably beat an injury free Herlings, because I think he did just that in Italy.
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Herlings maturing, " you get the same amount of points if you win by a second or by a minute"

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