Dungey Lites Eligibility

supercross doesnt affect the nonsupercross class!

Yes it does

I was told if any of the Lites riders made it to the top 20 in points they would not be allowed to return to the regional Lites class.

there was or is a rule if a rider makes 20 points in 450 SX he is no longer eligible for 250F class too, they were talking about changing it but with this new DMG deal and everything , the rules may certainly change and probably will.

I Believe it was changed to top 10.

With his performances thus far, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the 450's next year.

From the AMA Rulebook:
[b:arc6k6ls]2.6 Supercross Lites Class Endorsement Eligibility
b. Riders finishing in the Top 20 in the Supercross class in either of the previous two Supercross seasons, 2006 or 2007 may not ride in the Supercross Lites Class.[/b:arc6k6ls]

There will be no effect on his 2008 season, so he will be at Seattle to challenge JLaw for the tilte and at Vegas, defending his East/West Shootout title. We can only guess if the AMA will change the rule for 2009.

Also from the Rulebook:
[b:arc6k6ls]2.8 Supercross Lites Class Regional Guidelines
g. Riders earning the Number 1 plate in their region may either defend the title only once or attempt to win the other region. Riders will not be allowed to defend a second AMA Supercross Lites Championship in either region. [/b:arc6k6ls]

So, if he wins the lite(W) title in Seattle, he should be permitted to defend it or race East Coast to try to collect both titles before advancing.

bruce

He should ride the 450 class...especially next year! He is by far their best rider...no offense DV12.

[quote="huck":2plkkadb]He should ride the 450 class...especially next year! He is by far their best rider...no offense DV12.[/quote:2plkkadb]

I agree...move up...no reason to ride with the boys in the lites class....

he definetely seems comfy on the 450, and after running up front on it, I'd have a hard time moving back down.

[quote="davis224":y1i9ydeg]he definetely seems comfy on the 450, and after running up front on it, I'd have a hard time moving back down.[/quote:y1i9ydeg]

Until Jlaw moves up
He can run to the 450s if he wants, jason's gonna milk lites for another year.

It's a NON-Issue for this year. He can win and it won't affect him in the lites class Per AMA

Is it because he's "comfy" on a 450 or more because there's no pressure on him right now to win a 450 title? You tend to tighten up a little bit when there's more at stake.

[quote="akmx17":1awuggpe][quote="davis224":1awuggpe]he definetely seems comfy on the 450, and after running up front on it, I'd have a hard time moving back down.[/quote:1awuggpe]

Until Jlaw moves up
He can run to the 450s if he wants, jason's gonna milk lites for another year.[/quote:1awuggpe]


Milk it? This is the first year he's won anything in the class.....

AMA waived the rule because they can't fill up the gates. So lites guys could come to the east and win 450 races and not be affected.

[quote="Big E":1fklc5wl]AMA waived the rule because they can't fill up the gates. So lites guys could come to the east and win 450 races and not be affected.[/quote:1fklc5wl]
Correct

[quote="KAWboy14":lcog2wng]supercross doesnt affect the nonsupercross class![/quote:lcog2wng]

Our class names sound stupid.

[quote="flarider":2coa2uar][quote="Big E":2coa2uar]AMA waived the rule because they can't fill up the gates. So lites guys could come to the east and win 450 races and not be affected.[/quote:2coa2uar]
Correct[/quote:2coa2uar]


Wait, they won't be affected for 2009?

The way I understood it was that the AMA offered the west riders the opportunity to race 450's, which is normally against the rules. (They made race lites one coast, 450's the other illegal a year or so ago)
Along with that, eligibility rules from these instances will be overlooked, meaning no busting yourself out of lites due to riding 450's under a special dispensation ruling.

So when they go back West, can the East Lites guys run some 450 races?

This year, yes
(it's only one west race left, right?)

AMA rules are a rubbery not so solid substance that can change with the weather or trend of the hour.

[quote="flarider":1jt0mvqd]The way I understood it was that the AMA offered the west riders the opportunity to race 450's, which is normally against the rules. (They made race lites one coast, 450's the other illegal a year or so ago)
Along with that, eligibility rules from these instances will be overlooked, meaning no busting yourself out of lites due to riding 450's under a special dispensation ruling.[/quote:1jt0mvqd]


I'm not sure I get what you are saying. Does this mean that 2008 points don't count for "bumping up" to the Supercross class for 2009?

[quote="huck":vgr4tscl]He should ride the 450 class...especially next year! He is by far their best rider...no offense DV12.[/quote:vgr4tscl]
i agree even he looked way better than mikey. but then again it could be the "go out there and just have fun" talk that RD gave him so he has no pressure like mikey has trying to fill just one of RC's boots...

[quote="APLMAN":2pie4bcj][quote="flarider":2pie4bcj]The way I understood it was that the AMA offered the west riders the opportunity to race 450's, which is normally against the rules. (They made race lites one coast, 450's the other illegal a year or so ago)
Along with that, eligibility rules from these instances will be overlooked, meaning no busting yourself out of lites due to riding 450's under a special dispensation ruling.[/quote:2pie4bcj]


I'm not sure I get what you are saying. Does this mean that 2008 points don't count for "bumping up" to the Supercross class for 2009?[/quote:2pie4bcj]
The way I understand it, only in relation to riding a 450

If you point out in the lites class, you're out

But they won't bump you for riding 450's, because they asked them to ride 450's
Be silly to ask a guy to do you a favor and then make him ineligible because of doing it, right?

[quote="flarider":7zgdckc9][quote="APLMAN":7zgdckc9][quote="flarider":7zgdckc9]The way I understood it was that the AMA offered the west riders the opportunity to race 450's, which is normally against the rules. (They made race lites one coast, 450's the other illegal a year or so ago)
Along with that, eligibility rules from these instances will be overlooked, meaning no busting yourself out of lites due to riding 450's under a special dispensation ruling.[/quote:7zgdckc9]


I'm not sure I get what you are saying. Does this mean that 2008 points don't count for "bumping up" to the Supercross class for 2009?[/quote:7zgdckc9]
The way I understand it, only in relation to riding a 450

If you point out in the lites class, you're out

But they won't bump you for riding 450's, because they asked them to ride 450's
Be silly to ask a guy to do you a favor and then make him ineligible because of doing it, right?[/quote:7zgdckc9]


How many guys did they "ask"?

People can complain about the rules all they want but the fact is the AMA and Live Nation recognised a problem and did something about it and the racing is better for it. I'd rather them do something than just sit back and say the rules are the rules.

[quote="500guy":ztc7hw74]People can complain about the rules all they want but the fact is the AMA and Live Nation recognised a problem and did something about it and the racing is better for it. I'd rather them do something than just sit back and say the rules are the rules.[/quote:ztc7hw74]


They shouldn't have gotten themselves into that situation.....

First he got to practice with the top 20 as a B rider, now this!!!

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[quote="APLMAN":qdavpr8d][quote="500guy":qdavpr8d]People can complain about the rules all they want but the fact is the AMA and Live Nation recognised a problem and did something about it and the racing is better for it. I'd rather them do something than just sit back and say the rules are the rules.[/quote:qdavpr8d]


They shouldn't have gotten themselves into that situation.....[/quote:qdavpr8d]

Foresight has never been both AMA/LN strong suits.... Patchwork on the fly has.

[quote="APLMAN":pnqko4l8]


They shouldn't have gotten themselves into that situation.....[/quote:pnqko4l8]
AMA or LN cannot predict or control injuries or the economy

[quote="flarider":31ujziv3][quote="APLMAN":31ujziv3]


They shouldn't have gotten themselves into that situation.....[/quote:31ujziv3]
AMA or LN cannot predict or control injuries or the economy[/quote:31ujziv3]


You don't have to have a crystal ball to realize that the SX series "regulars" dwindle in numbers over the course of the season. Happens every single year. As for the economy, that's probably not the thing keeping the guys who used to fill the qualifier gates out of the stadium......