Do you think any of the top 20 could be juicing?

Yeah.


Next subject.

Too broad a question, please define.

You referring to Steroids, HGH, EPO, blood doping or other...

and "no," they're not all the same
Not even close

No boutadoutit!

Do they make marijuana juice ?

Yes, absolutely.

Erik

I would say some of them probably are "juicing". However, if they are mentally weak enough to resort to "juicing" and they can get away with it (because the powers that be won't do something about it)... then why not?

[quote="mikey":b6x7rcx0]I would say some of them probably are "juicing". However, if they are mentally weak enough to resort to "juicing" and they can get away with it (because the powers that be won't do something about it)... then why not?[/quote:b6x7rcx0]

Juicing aint what it used to be. A lot of it is safer than before and actually smart to do, so it blurs the line.

And AMA racing doesn't have a rule so there is no line anyway.

You can bet all the top trainers have their rider's blood checked for key components, and there are things that can be used legally to optimize.

I took the question to Asterisk med center doctors, two of them in separate conversations and the question was "do we have a problem that requires medical supervision (those Asterisk med guys) to step in and advise a stricter testing system?' Answer - No.

Everyone knows. No one is having a heart attack over it.

does that mean they have a Jack La Lange juicer..veggies and fruits

Dont we go through this about every month or two?

Just sayin...........

Yes, just look at Ryan Villopoto, mind boggling body builder physic! Is there any doubt?

stomach problems
eyes problems
broken thumbs
twisted knees

is the juice aggrevating injuries? causing brittle bones? these guys are more brittle than glass.

You know, back in the old days, steriod use was really dangerous and a very bad idea. With the new stuff, it's safer (as TFS said) and you have to wonder - if steroids hadn't given that stuff such a bad name, would it be more accepted and would it be thought of as a genuine training technique - which it is - instead of cheating - which it's not?

I'll put it to you this way. If HGH was over the counter you couldn't keep it in stock. Don't clump HGH with anabolic steriods. What TFS said is correct, the trainers most likely give their guys blood tests and see what they are defecient. For example "if"I know I personally have an amazing red blod cell count but a average testostorone count, it would be benefical if I took small doses of test and leave the EPO for the crazy cyclists.

HGH is basically a fountain of youth drug with minimal side affect if used in small quanities. I guarantee that almost every actor you see uses HGH. You think keanu Reeves, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise look that because of good genetics. Tom Cruise is 45, Brad Pitt is over 40 and i think Reeves is also in his 40's. We already know Sylvester and Arnold uses it. You can't be over sixty and look like that.

Erik

My brother broke the top 20 last year...

and i can officialy say he has never done any of it.

But maybe thats why hes not breaking top 20 too often....

The "powers that be" know, the somewhat informed fans know, the riders know and most people agree its not a big deal. Although it may not be a big deal; some supplements are safer than others. It seems that the AMA or Live Nation should test for a select list of dangerous or even somewhat dangerous drugs because it gives the SX/MX series a higher degree of professionalism and respect. Even though everyone knows and many people don't see a problem with "juicing" does that mean there shouldn't be testing? No, not if the best interest of the sport is in mind. Unfortunately, I think it is not sometimes .

Juicing is an effective and healthy way of getting micro-nutrients into your body and strengthening the immune system. I like to slice the orange peel off of an orange but leave the white pulpy layer when making orange juice. It's frothy, but it contains vitamins you can't get anywhere else! Try it!
[img:3en4mpz9]http://www.biggerideas.com/media/print/juiceman.jpg[/img:3en4mpz9]

Top 20? Pass that joint would ya. Share.

reed must be because how esle would he be able to ride with dislocated shoulders.....

[quote="KAWboy14":1pa8f9z2]reed must be because how esle would he be able to ride with dislocated shoulders.....[/quote:1pa8f9z2]
some good pain killas