Outdoors rumor.....

wpcjs
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2/1/2008 5:27pm
I do not want to be a bummer but think of what goes on at a national when it is light out and people are somewhat accountable, drinking, signs/bubba crap, fights, banner theft,etc. can you imagine people thinking they can do all that stuff and slipping into darkness?
TerryK
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2/1/2008 5:41pm
Daytona?
andymoto
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2/1/2008 5:58pm
Good idea to try. Having a Sat Night National MX would bring more people.
We tried it at our local track and attendance in both riders and fans jumped tremendously compared to a Sunday race.
Worth trying as long as lighting is of no issue.
Hasn't Daytona SX been doing this? Heard no complaints about it.
2/1/2008 9:19pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:07pm
[quote="flarider":227fjc6i]I have no problem with nighttime nationals.
Less dust, less hot, easier travel times
Would be a huge improvement[/quote:227fjc6i]

How is there less dust? Maybe because typically the wind dies down at night?

Personally, I like it nice and hot.

The Shop

2/1/2008 9:31pm
If they do that then I hope they run the race on a Saturday night. Sunday night race? Stupid.

One of the major things wrong (and simplest to fix) with the nationals is that they are on Sundays. All of them should be on Saturday.
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2/1/2008 9:35pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:07pm
[quote="Zero":9fkru728][quote="flarider":9fkru728]I have no problem with nighttime nationals.
Less dust, less hot, easier travel times
Would be a huge improvement[/quote:9fkru728]

How is there less dust? Maybe because typically the wind dies down at night?

Personally, I like it nice and hot.[/quote:9fkru728]

Water it once, if it's needed, and that's that. It won't dry up.
2/1/2008 9:40pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:07pm
[quote="Erik":1fxdlrdw]I'm not saying everything is perfect but change is good, even if it sometimes for the bad.

Erik[/quote:1fxdlrdw]


No, change is not good. Good change is good. Bad change is bad.

My oldest son went to his first National at 7. No problems. Hot as hell, end of July at Washougal. But he's an outside kid, so perhaps he was a bit more used to being out in the elements than some...
2/1/2008 10:17pm
what happens if the power goes out ? just wonderin ...
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2/1/2008 11:55pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:07pm
[quote="Erik":330r2xgu]David Claubaugh alone pulled in Toyota the first year and had demos set up that allowed you to drive Tundra's.
Erik[/quote:330r2xgu]
Southwick did that in 06 and 07, I think that has more to do with Toyota than the track owners. Not saying Claubaugh isn't on the ball by any means.
Heck Toyota was setting up demos and test rides at the track I work here in New England last summer.

[quote="Twizzler":330r2xgu]Young children don't belong at an outdoor national. They should be at Grandmas or Chuckie Cheese instead.[/quote:330r2xgu]
That is one of the more ignorant statements I have seen here, which is an accomplishment.
Yeah by all means let's not build the future of the sport with a new generation of fans.
I am sure the folks from Moto Tees would be real happy to lose 1/3 of their sales too since they invest money in the outdoor series every year.

My son has been at every Southwick since he was 4 and couldn't care less about the weather, he wants to be there to see them race.
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2/2/2008 12:09am
it wouldnt bother me one bit if lakewood was under lights. then maybe our local races could run 2 full motos per class too. I figure if they are going to try it, the lorettas qualifiers will be the guinea pigs for it.
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2/2/2008 6:15am
It would be cool if outdoor national tracks had lights. I'm not sure if the main race should happen at night though. Maybe have some amateur races at night or something.
2/2/2008 6:56am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:07pm
[quote="eddiebrown":318x33kx]what happens if the power goes out ? just wonderin ...[/quote:318x33kx]

Our local track under the previous owner had a separate night/supercross track, one night during one of the money classes all the power went out. There were guys going through the woops and a buddy of mine and another guy were in the air over the big triple when it went pitch black! Really Freaky luckily noone was hurt.
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2/2/2008 6:59am
If it can be lighted properly, nothing wrong with a night race.
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2/2/2008 9:41am
I heard it's not supposed to be a rumor anymore. They're going to try to do it. The lights are being put in right now actually. I think it's gay and my brother is afraid people are going to steal stuff out of our pit ahah. I can't imagine how it's going to work good with all the ruts and bumps, it was hard enough to go fast on the track last year ahaha.
2/2/2008 1:20pm
They should'nt hold Nationals at a track you can light.................
2/2/2008 1:39pm
First, to whomever it was that said kids should be at grandmas house or Chuckie Cheese!! You said that you are a father of 4, that must mean that you just pay child support for 4 kids, because a FATHER would NOT just dump the kids to go do ANYTHING!! My son went to his first moto event (AMA AX) at 18months and he is HOOKED on it. I can not even drive by a Moto shop without him wanting to go in. He has now been to 2 of the Lakewood Nationals and 2 of the AX races, not to mention several of the local events. He loves it, but you have to be very careful with younger children in the heat, even moreso at altitude, so I welcome anything that could make it easier for parents to bring their kids.

That said, one of the best races I have ever done was at the Texas Ski Ranch in New Braunfels Tx. at night. Great soil, and the lighting was excellent. As long as the lighting is done properly then it is not an issue, in fact it can be better than a late afternoon race since you don't have blind spots from the sun. I know from experience that coming back up the hill after the start at Thunder Valley in the late afternoon can be sketchy. The sun is direct in your face and makes some serious shadows in the ruts and holes. MX tracks with lights are great when done properly, they allow more for everyone especially for long weekend races and weekday practices for those 9 to 5 folks.
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2/2/2008 1:46pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:07pm
[quote="Zero":18fc22pc][quote="flarider":18fc22pc]I have no problem with nighttime nationals.
Less dust, less hot, easier travel times
Would be a huge improvement[/quote:18fc22pc]

How is there less dust? Maybe because typically the wind dies down at night?

Personally, I like it nice and hot.[/quote:18fc22pc]

the sun isnt baking the dirt as the riders dig deeper....typicaly at night the moisture level is higher than during the day....the wind dies down at night....yeah those are 3 good reasons why!
2/2/2008 3:36pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:07pm
[quote="trailpimp33":xy7q547q]First, to whomever it was that said kids should be at grandmas house or Chuckie Cheese!! You said that you are a father of 4, that must mean that you just pay child support for 4 kids, because a FATHER would NOT just dump the kids to go do ANYTHING!! My son went to his first moto event (AMA AX) at 18months and he is HOOKED on it. I can not even drive by a Moto shop without him wanting to go in. He has now been to 2 of the Lakewood Nationals and 2 of the AX races, not to mention several of the local events. He loves it, but you have to be very careful with younger children in the heat, even moreso at altitude, so I welcome anything that could make it easier for parents to bring their kids.

That said, one of the best races I have ever done was at the Texas Ski Ranch in New Braunfels Tx. at night. Great soil, and the lighting was excellent. As long as the lighting is done properly then it is not an issue, in fact it can be better than a late afternoon race since you don't have blind spots from the sun. I know from experience that coming back up the hill after the start at Thunder Valley in the late afternoon can be sketchy. The sun is direct in your face and makes some serious shadows in the ruts and holes. MX tracks with lights are great when done properly, they allow more for everyone especially for long weekend races and weekday practices for those 9 to 5 folks.[/quote:xy7q547q]

When a comment is so unbelievably stupid, I try to not directly respond. The fact is the poster is not a jerk, I think he was just fishing. The last couple of years at lakewood was hot, real hot. I went but my wife didn't and I really enjoy when the entire family gets to go. I don't think people understand how fast water evaporates at alitude. it real hard to keep the track moist. I can't wait to see to go. I also think alot more people will end up going. I will bet the entire place, including the parking lot will be lit.

Erik
2/3/2008 3:22pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:07pm
[quote="eddiebrown":1s14zkrp]what happens if the power goes out ? just wonderin ...[/quote:1s14zkrp]

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