First lap sprint speed (offroad)

radialone
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Hey guys. Looking for some tips on improving my speed at the beginning of a race.

I'm not new to riding, but I just started racing offroad (Big 6) this year. I'm a novice level rider and I've found that it takes me a bit longer to get into a groove and feel comfortable than it does for other guys in my class. I typically start loosening up and flowing more in the second lap and from there on out I'm going faster each lap with the last lap usually being my fastest. Bottom line is that I'm giving up too much time early on and I'm not able to make enough of it back by the end.

Some additional info: If you're not familiar with Big 6, it's offroad GP style racing. Races are usually in the hour range with 10-15 minute lap times on average. I warm up with some light cardio and dynamic stretching before heading to the line which definitely helps my body to feel looser, but that's not really the issue. The issue is more that I don't feel warmed up as far as my riding goes since we don't have any practice or sighting laps prior to the start of the race. Unfortunately showing up early enough to ride the unclassified race in the morning is usually not practical for me.

Anyway, any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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4/11/2016 3:31pm
Do you race motocross? I would think mixing in some sprint races that are sprints from the get go would help.
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4/11/2016 6:32pm
I've gone to the line warmed up by practicing earlier that morning with an afternoon start or going to the line stone cold. It didn't really make a difference.

If I was familiar with the event location, I'd do better. It's your first year. The first lap is very much like MX. Lots of riders, bunched up, high energy, etc.

The more races under your belt, the more confident and aggressive you'll be on the first lap.

4/11/2016 6:49pm
The solution depends on what's wrong with your first lap, because it sounds to me like your problem is mental.

Are you over-charging, or riding too cautiously?

If it's the latter, is it attributable to your unfamiliarity with the track?
radialone
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4/11/2016 8:03pm
TripleFive wrote:
The solution depends on what's wrong with your first lap, because it sounds to me like your problem is mental. Are you over-charging, or riding too...
The solution depends on what's wrong with your first lap, because it sounds to me like your problem is mental.

Are you over-charging, or riding too cautiously?

If it's the latter, is it attributable to your unfamiliarity with the track?
I'm not attacking as confidently and assertively as I do later in the race. It's partly due to the fact that I'm learning the track that first lap, but I also just feel like there's more of a disconnect between my brain and body early in the race. Late in the race I'm much more in the moment and not even thinking as much as I am doing. I just don't flow very well that first lap.

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4/11/2016 8:19pm
I had the same exact problem racing motocross. It got fixed when I started practicing during the week. Same thing occurred in my semi-pro (Semi-pro= you get paid but have no chance in hell in doing it for a living) which changed once we got to a certain level of practice. Got so rehearsed that there was no warming up period.
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4/11/2016 8:21pm
Ted722 wrote:
I've gone to the line warmed up by practicing earlier that morning with an afternoon start or going to the line stone cold. It didn't really...
I've gone to the line warmed up by practicing earlier that morning with an afternoon start or going to the line stone cold. It didn't really make a difference.

If I was familiar with the event location, I'd do better. It's your first year. The first lap is very much like MX. Lots of riders, bunched up, high energy, etc.

The more races under your belt, the more confident and aggressive you'll be on the first lap.

Thanks for the input. I know more seat time in those race situations will help. I'm sure the experience component is big, just like with anything.
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4/11/2016 8:57pm Edited Date/Time 4/12/2016 6:14am
Are the races Saturday or Sunday? Are you able to ride the day before the race? An easy ride day on Saturday can switch your mind from work mode to ride mode. Nothing too hard to tire you out or risk breaking anything on the bike, just a couple easy motos on a turn track.
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4/11/2016 9:06pm
You say getting there in time to race the unclassified race isnt pratical but i promise itll make all the difference. Until i started racing it i felt the same way. If you go to the line already knowing the track its a huge confidence builder.
4/11/2016 11:03pm
You say getting there in time to race the unclassified race isnt pratical but i promise itll make all the difference. Until i started racing it...
You say getting there in time to race the unclassified race isnt pratical but i promise itll make all the difference. Until i started racing it i felt the same way. If you go to the line already knowing the track its a huge confidence builder.
^^ exactly. sounds like you're too timid the first lap because you don't know the track. spend the extra 25 bucks on unclassified, then ride like a bat out of hell on the first lap
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4/11/2016 11:10pm
If they have an area away from staging-pits find a spot to do some figure 8's pick a bush, rock, twig whatever and do a few before heading to the line. That'll help wakeup your reflexes and mind.
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4/12/2016 2:54am
I agree with running the the unclassified. no need to finish it either. Sometimes I would work a section over a few times if I needed to during the unclassified race, sometimes I would get the flow of the track and finish and sometimes I would just knock one or two laps out and come in early. Also, before my start time I would cruise the perimeter of the course to check on current conditions of the track, still do for the MX racing I do now.
Good Luck, Keep having fun!!!
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4/12/2016 4:31am
How are your starts?
I found once I consistently could get myself up front off the line, I could push harder the first lap.
Less traffic to go through, and being up with the fast guys lets you pick up their pace and see their lines.
Even in 2 hour hare scrambles the start sure doesn’t hurt…
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4/12/2016 4:52am
I struggled with your same problem for the first year or two of racing cross country. We race the same format. One hour plus a lap, usually 10-15 min laps. It is without a doubt not knowing the track. My first two years, I couldn't remember what obstacle was around the corner so I approached every corner like I didn't know what was there. We get up between 4:30 and 5:00 to drive to the race grounds the day of the race to make 7:30 practice. I've never raced a track blind. I'd be like a fish out of water. Is that what you're doing?
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4/12/2016 4:59am
Are you cautious because the first lap everyone is bunched up and as they spread out you feel better/more aggressive because you have less fear of getting run into by a dork?

There may not be much to fix that if that's the problem, that's just being smart because you have to work on Monday. Racing against kids who don't have to work on Monday or guys that don't care is a good cause to be scarred or extremely cautious!
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4/12/2016 5:09am
practice like you race for intensity purposes, and if possible do it on unfamiliar terrain since you aren't keen on a prerun.

In SA we don't ever prerun courses and its a new track for everybody on the first lap in our offroad/H&H style racing which is usually around 20 miles a lap for 3+ hours. Practicing at race pace in unfamiliar terrain is what helps me. also helps break bones though so figure the risk you're willing to take and go from there.
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4/12/2016 5:28am
Maybe try using a more strenuous warm up. Break a sweat, run a mile, do jumping jacks and pushups... etc. Especially if the race is only an hour or so. That's what I would do anyway...
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4/12/2016 5:42am
You gotta get good starts.... regardless of whats going on with your riding a good start is always a plus. if your series doesn't allow practice you can walk the first 1/2 mile or so of the track and look for passing opportunities and creative lines.. then focus on the best start u can and after that hard sprint for the first half mile settle in and focus on riding smooth and look as far out front as u can....
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4/12/2016 6:11am
rbm33 wrote:
You gotta get good starts.... regardless of whats going on with your riding a good start is always a plus. if your series doesn't allow practice...
You gotta get good starts.... regardless of whats going on with your riding a good start is always a plus. if your series doesn't allow practice you can walk the first 1/2 mile or so of the track and look for passing opportunities and creative lines.. then focus on the best start u can and after that hard sprint for the first half mile settle in and focus on riding smooth and look as far out front as u can....
^^^^ this....we race the big6 series also and the start is your friend! Be very aggressive out the gate and that will help immensely. ... I try to get a good start and push quite hard on the first lap and it definitely pays off.....so my advice is to just concentrate on the gate drop and if you find yourself up front, normally adrenaline takes over and you "automatically" sprint to stay out front ! Good luck and maybe well see you out there!
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4/12/2016 8:14am Edited Date/Time 4/12/2016 8:15am
don't listen to the rest of these jokers, you gotta twist the grip off that fucker, bro

i call it the Villopoto Effect
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4/12/2016 8:22am
Ideally unclassified race first and spin a few laps.

Or

Track walk the first 1/2-1 mile. Good aggressive start and then ride a wide bike for the rest of the first lap. Its hard coming from a 30th place start on the first lap as the top 10 will be gone. If you can hold with the top 10 in lap one and build speed you could be a top 5 guy much quicker.
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4/12/2016 8:28am
How do you ride on your practice days (non-racing riding days)? Do you start slow and gradually get faster?

Practice how you want to race...when you go riding for practice, force yourself to pin it from the truck (I'm assuming you are riding offroad for practice)...don't "take it easy" for a while, then gradually get faster. Unload your bike, put on your gear, warm the bike up, and then pin it and ride as hard as you can. That simulates a race day, and will get you used to racing more aggressively from the gate drop.
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4/12/2016 1:25pm
I really appreciate everyone's advice. I've definitely got a lot of good stuff to consider.

My reasoning for not showing up for the unclassified race is this: Each event is on average 2 hours from where I live. Unclassified is typically at 7:30am and my race is not until 12:45pm. I don't really want to get up at 4:30am in order to make unclassified and then sit around for 4 hours under the E-Z Up until the start of my race. I've actually done this before at an SRA GP at Glen Helen and although it did help some with track familiarity, the sitting around kind of offset some of the advantage I gained from practice (both mentally and physically). I'm able to stay more fresh and focused with less downtime at the track. That's just what I've found works best for me on race day. The downside to that strategy is obviously what we're discussing here. On top of that, some events are just plain too far to show up that early unless I went and got a hotel the night before (which I have no interest in doing).

As far as starts go, it's been a bit of a mixed bag thus far. I've started both up front and in the back. I've been working on my starts b/c I know how important they are. I was second off the start at our last race and it definitely freed me up to charge more and take the lines I wanted to. That being said, I still didn't ride as smooth and assertive as I needed to and ultimately lost some time and spots as a result.

I definitely always err on the side of caution when it comes to riding/racing. My brain isn't wired with an off switch like some other guys. I'm always weighing risk vs reward. I don't mind taking risks when I feel prepared to tackle the challenge, but I'm not going to just pin it and hope for the best. Besides simply not being wired that way, I also have to take my wife and job into account. This is a hobby that I do for the fun of it and I definitely enjoy the competition factor as I'm a competitive person, but there's a limit to everything. I know my ceiling may be lower than others for these reasons (which I accept), but I know there's ways I can improve and maximize what I am willing to give and still be pretty darn competitive.

I think this is what I'm going to try going forward:

-Practice with more intensity and try to up the pace more quickly. I usually ease into it when I practice, so maybe I'll try rolling around for one lap just to check for any glaring red flags and then try to charge right off the bat.

-Walk around the perimeter of as much of the track as I can on race day. Look for lines, layout, etc prior to heading to the line so that I'm not hitting it totally blind.

-In addition to warming up with some cardio and dynamic stretches, find a spot to do some basic warm up drills prior to heading to the line. I know they say no pit riding, but I should be able to do some figure eights somewhere.

-Focus on being up front off the start and try to push outside of my comfort zone as much as I can for that first lap. I also need to remember to look ahead more and focus on hitting lines and connecting the dots more that first lap.


Thanks again for everyone's input!
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4/12/2016 3:52pm
I have the same problem. Mostly confidence. Seems like i have to get out there and prove to myself i can push it. Of course our skills are what they are.....
4/12/2016 4:08pm
I suggest shotgunning at least 2 Monster Energy drinks (I prefer blue lo-carb) about 10 minutes prior to the event start. You'll have sprint speed all the way to the checkers.

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