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brimx153 3/20/2016 2:58pm
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How was how Baggett pushed Canard into the tough blocks any different from what got Reed black flagged a while back? My only point here is...
How was how Baggett pushed Canard into the tough blocks any different from what got Reed black flagged a while back?

My only point here is that the rules should be enforced consistently.

I don't see why either one should have been black flagged.
if you have to ask that question ,you should not be allowed race . BB was in front he can do what he wants . its not even anything like the reed one
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Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting toward the pits? Looked like they were having a little chat
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At this point trey going up to get angry at someone's line choices is almost as comical as Freise doing the same ... just saying Wink Tongue Whistling
DumpsterLuv 3/20/2016 3:53pm
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kawi448 wrote:
Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting...
Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting toward the pits? Looked like they were having a little chat
Canard and his super fans are "holier than thou", Canard was obviously faster then Bagget on the day, however like in situations past he (canard) made a risky move. Canard has all the skill in the world, however he makes bad decisions while passing riders coming through the pack.
Same scenario with reed last year; caught him (Reed) and should have set up a clean pass, instead he makes a dumb move. Some one in his camp needs to give him (Canard) constructive criticism, if he keeps on with his mentality of blaming others for his misfortune, his fortune will continue as such.

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davistld01 wrote:
Looked like Baggett moved over.
It looked to me like two National Champions racing dirt bikes.

Two badass's doing what badass's do.

fighting over a position, and both will do what they can to get it (or keep it).

why does one or the other have to be "at fault" or anything more than boys racing motocross bikes?
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kiwifan 3/20/2016 5:19pm
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Canard and his super fans are "holier than thou", Canard was obviously faster then Bagget on the day, however like in situations past he (canard) made...
Canard and his super fans are "holier than thou", Canard was obviously faster then Bagget on the day, however like in situations past he (canard) made a risky move. Canard has all the skill in the world, however he makes bad decisions while passing riders coming through the pack.
Same scenario with reed last year; caught him (Reed) and should have set up a clean pass, instead he makes a dumb move. Some one in his camp needs to give him (Canard) constructive criticism, if he keeps on with his mentality of blaming others for his misfortune, his fortune will continue as such.
yeah and anti-Canard fans think everyone else is holier than hell....the real stupid thing is every time there is a slightest incident with Canard everyone jumps on the "its Canard's fault" bandwagon, facts will tell you otherwise (not in all incident of course, but certainly not every god damn time)
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Celine 3/20/2016 6:07pm
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MXD wrote:
Serious question, are guys getting a little more aggressive around him lately and taking more liberties to make sure they don't get caught up in some...
Serious question, are guys getting a little more aggressive around him lately and taking more liberties to make sure they don't get caught up in some mayhem?
Is it a serious question? If so, I'll take it.

Well, yes, a lot of riders have noted that Trey Canard is dangerous. Thefore, they ride defensively.
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Radical 3/20/2016 7:53pm
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Radical wrote:
How was how Baggett pushed Canard into the tough blocks any different from what got Reed black flagged a while back? My only point here is...
How was how Baggett pushed Canard into the tough blocks any different from what got Reed black flagged a while back?

My only point here is that the rules should be enforced consistently.

I don't see why either one should have been black flagged.
brimx153 wrote:
if you have to ask that question ,you should not be allowed race . BB was in front he can do what he wants . its...
if you have to ask that question ,you should not be allowed race . BB was in front he can do what he wants . its not even anything like the reed one
He slowly, deliberately bumped him off the track. That is almost the same as Reed, except Reed came from behind to accomplish the same thing at low speeds. In both cases it was deliberate, at low speed, and meant to send a message.
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brimx153 3/20/2016 8:08pm
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Radical wrote:
How was how Baggett pushed Canard into the tough blocks any different from what got Reed black flagged a while back? My only point here is...
How was how Baggett pushed Canard into the tough blocks any different from what got Reed black flagged a while back?

My only point here is that the rules should be enforced consistently.

I don't see why either one should have been black flagged.
brimx153 wrote:
if you have to ask that question ,you should not be allowed race . BB was in front he can do what he wants . its...
if you have to ask that question ,you should not be allowed race . BB was in front he can do what he wants . its not even anything like the reed one
Radical wrote:
He slowly, deliberately bumped him off the track. That is almost the same as Reed, except Reed came from behind to accomplish the same thing at...
He slowly, deliberately bumped him off the track. That is almost the same as Reed, except Reed came from behind to accomplish the same thing at low speeds. In both cases it was deliberate, at low speed, and meant to send a message.
he was in front of trey . moved over to block the line ,same as every other rider would do . there was nt enough space .trey fell . 100% Treys fault ,but just a racing deal . Reed intentionaly went out of his way to knock off trey . 100% Reed s fault . BB4 intended to make Trey to put on the brakes and stay behind .Reed intended to put Trey on the ground
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Crush 3/20/2016 8:10pm
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kawi448 wrote:
Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting...
Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting toward the pits? Looked like they were having a little chat
Where/when was that?
DumpsterLuv 3/20/2016 8:17pm
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kawi448 wrote:
Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting...
Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting toward the pits? Looked like they were having a little chat
Crush wrote:
Where/when was that?
Read the first sentence of the post you quoted and you will know cheers
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Mit12 3/20/2016 8:21pm
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Bagget definitely moved over on him, but on the other hand it was a pretty risky way to go for the pass... Trey didn't have the...
Bagget definitely moved over on him, but on the other hand it was a pretty risky way to go for the pass... Trey didn't have the line.
Baggett was not happy with how Canard tried to jump into the corner on him so he returned the favor by jumping inside of Canard and pushed him off the track. Canard brings this kind of thing on him self. You would think that after all his injuries he would learn to use his brain instead of his throttle.
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davistld01 3/20/2016 8:23pm
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davistld01 wrote:
Looked like Baggett moved over.
I love it when I'm right! Wink
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kawi448 wrote:
Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting...
Did anyone see Canard bang the rev limiter and rip past everyone to get in BBs face after the race was over and everyone was coasting toward the pits? Looked like they were having a little chat
Crush wrote:
Where/when was that?
DumpsterLuv wrote:
Read the first sentence of the post you quoted and you will know cheers
Ya, looking for video!
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First time poster, but curious as to how the Baggett move wasn't a little bit of a cheap shot. He only had a half a bike length on Canard and then just moved over on him with a tuff block coming up. Was posted above he should of hit the brakes but at the time Baggett moved over, they were way to close to the tuff block for him to be able stop. The majority around this place say Canard makes bad decisions, but he was obviously faster and had a good drive on him, so why wouldnt he go for the pass?
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Mit12 3/20/2016 8:57pm
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Ranch Life wrote:
First time poster, but curious as to how the Baggett move wasn't a little bit of a cheap shot. He only had a half a bike...
First time poster, but curious as to how the Baggett move wasn't a little bit of a cheap shot. He only had a half a bike length on Canard and then just moved over on him with a tuff block coming up. Was posted above he should of hit the brakes but at the time Baggett moved over, they were way to close to the tuff block for him to be able stop. The majority around this place say Canard makes bad decisions, but he was obviously faster and had a good drive on him, so why wouldnt he go for the pass?
No one on here is saying that Canard is faster. What we are saying is Canard brings this stuff on himself. Watch the corner before when Canard jumps almost on Baggett going into the turn, Baggett did not like it so he cut under him and payed him back.
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All you have to do is look more than 1" above your front fender to know that anyone with a wheel on you in that situation is going to squeeze you out. Back it off, cut to the inside and keep racing.
DumpsterLuv 3/20/2016 9:10pm
3/20/2016 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 3/20/2016 9:12pm
Crush wrote:
Where/when was that?
DumpsterLuv wrote:
Read the first sentence of the post you quoted and you will know cheers
Crush wrote:
Ya, looking for video!
Ya, looking for video!
Myself as well, didn't see it on the broadcast, I assumed kiwi was there, and well you may know what they say about assumptions.

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Ranch Life 3/20/2016 9:35pm
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mb wrote:
All you have to do is look more than 1" above your front fender to know that anyone with a wheel on you in that situation...
All you have to do is look more than 1" above your front fender to know that anyone with a wheel on you in that situation is going to squeeze you out. Back it off, cut to the inside and keep racing.
It looked to me like Baggett left the inside open so Canard jumped in and Baggett squared him up a little, and I believe in the "rubbin is racin", but the only possible outcome of what Baggett did was Canard going down. The tuff blocks were kind of inset right there because of the mechanics area. Canard was actually wheel to wheel with him when he moved over and bumped him right in to it.
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kiwifan 3/20/2016 9:37pm
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DumpsterLuv wrote:
Myself as well, didn't see it on the broadcast, I assumed kiwi was there, and well you may know what they say about assumptions.
what I saw was a rider going for a pass that WAS on, but BB4 closed the door and therefore the result was what happened....call me out all you damn well like but blaming Canard is a cheap shot and typical of the anti-Canard brigade that totally ignore the facts for their own benefit

p.s. do you lift bro?
DumpsterLuv 3/20/2016 9:38pm
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mb wrote:
All you have to do is look more than 1" above your front fender to know that anyone with a wheel on you in that situation...
All you have to do is look more than 1" above your front fender to know that anyone with a wheel on you in that situation is going to squeeze you out. Back it off, cut to the inside and keep racing.
Ranch Life wrote:
It looked to me like Baggett left the inside open so Canard jumped in and Baggett squared him up a little, and I believe in the...
It looked to me like Baggett left the inside open so Canard jumped in and Baggett squared him up a little, and I believe in the "rubbin is racin", but the only possible outcome of what Baggett did was Canard going down. The tuff blocks were kind of inset right there because of the mechanics area. Canard was actually wheel to wheel with him when he moved over and bumped him right in to it.
Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly faster then.
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jemcee 3/20/2016 9:39pm
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Crush wrote:
Where/when was that?
DumpsterLuv wrote:
Read the first sentence of the post you quoted and you will know cheers
Crush wrote:
Ya, looking for video!
Ya, looking for video!
I just rewatched the race didn't see Canard do that but I did hear a loud rev then saw him ride off fast in the background of Dungey's interview.. Also saw this on transworld with no caption (near the photo)


DumpsterLuv 3/20/2016 9:40pm
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DumpsterLuv wrote:
Myself as well, didn't see it on the broadcast, I assumed kiwi was there, and well you may know what they say about assumptions.
kiwifan wrote:
what I saw was a rider going for a pass that WAS on, but BB4 closed the door and therefore the result was what happened....call me...
what I saw was a rider going for a pass that WAS on, but BB4 closed the door and therefore the result was what happened....call me out all you damn well like but blaming Canard is a cheap shot and typical of the anti-Canard brigade that totally ignore the facts for their own benefit

p.s. do you lift bro?
Canard is one of my favorite riders "bro", I'm not being anti canard. I just think he (canard) needs to be a bit more tactical when passing riders he is obviously faster then, that's all I was trying to say.
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kiwifan 3/20/2016 9:40pm
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mb wrote:
All you have to do is look more than 1" above your front fender to know that anyone with a wheel on you in that situation...
All you have to do is look more than 1" above your front fender to know that anyone with a wheel on you in that situation is going to squeeze you out. Back it off, cut to the inside and keep racing.
Ranch Life wrote:
It looked to me like Baggett left the inside open so Canard jumped in and Baggett squared him up a little, and I believe in the...
It looked to me like Baggett left the inside open so Canard jumped in and Baggett squared him up a little, and I believe in the "rubbin is racin", but the only possible outcome of what Baggett did was Canard going down. The tuff blocks were kind of inset right there because of the mechanics area. Canard was actually wheel to wheel with him when he moved over and bumped him right in to it.
DumpsterLuv wrote:
Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly...
Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly faster then.
he did have him fucking setup, but BB4 squared him up...did you even watch it???
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kiwifan 3/20/2016 9:43pm
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DumpsterLuv wrote:
Myself as well, didn't see it on the broadcast, I assumed kiwi was there, and well you may know what they say about assumptions.
kiwifan wrote:
what I saw was a rider going for a pass that WAS on, but BB4 closed the door and therefore the result was what happened....call me...
what I saw was a rider going for a pass that WAS on, but BB4 closed the door and therefore the result was what happened....call me out all you damn well like but blaming Canard is a cheap shot and typical of the anti-Canard brigade that totally ignore the facts for their own benefit

p.s. do you lift bro?
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Canard is one of my favorite riders "bro", I'm not being anti canard. I just think he (canard) needs to be a bit more tactical when...
Canard is one of my favorite riders "bro", I'm not being anti canard. I just think he (canard) needs to be a bit more tactical when passing riders he is obviously faster then, that's all I was trying to say.
so lets see, by your logic he should never attempt an inside pass (when its clearly on) because the rider MIGHT square him up to prevent the pass and therefore make contact...have I summed it up correctly?
DumpsterLuv 3/20/2016 9:47pm
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Ranch Life wrote:
It looked to me like Baggett left the inside open so Canard jumped in and Baggett squared him up a little, and I believe in the...
It looked to me like Baggett left the inside open so Canard jumped in and Baggett squared him up a little, and I believe in the "rubbin is racin", but the only possible outcome of what Baggett did was Canard going down. The tuff blocks were kind of inset right there because of the mechanics area. Canard was actually wheel to wheel with him when he moved over and bumped him right in to it.
DumpsterLuv wrote:
Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly...
Canard was not wheel to wheel, and there was no room to pass. Canard needs to set up his passes better on riders he is clearly faster then.
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he did have him fucking setup, but BB4 squared him up...did you even watch it???
Woah, chill my friend, I'm not saying Bagget is jesus, take off those rose glasses. Canard gets into trouble were he doesn't need to, and after all the shit he has pulled, riders are less likely to race him clean. Same mentality = Same results, Canard needs to change his approach, if he doesn't he will keep getting the same results and lack of respect from other riders on the track that he is experiencing now. He may have people like you blowing smoke up his ass telling him he is something he isn't, Canard needs someone objective in his camp to tell him he needs to look at his own actions. Glass house...
DumpsterLuv 3/20/2016 9:48pm
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kiwifan wrote:
what I saw was a rider going for a pass that WAS on, but BB4 closed the door and therefore the result was what happened....call me...
what I saw was a rider going for a pass that WAS on, but BB4 closed the door and therefore the result was what happened....call me out all you damn well like but blaming Canard is a cheap shot and typical of the anti-Canard brigade that totally ignore the facts for their own benefit

p.s. do you lift bro?
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Canard is one of my favorite riders "bro", I'm not being anti canard. I just think he (canard) needs to be a bit more tactical when...
Canard is one of my favorite riders "bro", I'm not being anti canard. I just think he (canard) needs to be a bit more tactical when passing riders he is obviously faster then, that's all I was trying to say.
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so lets see, by your logic he should never attempt an inside pass (when its clearly on) because the rider MIGHT square him up to prevent...
so lets see, by your logic he should never attempt an inside pass (when its clearly on) because the rider MIGHT square him up to prevent the pass and therefore make contact...have I summed it up correctly?
nice straw man, you are good at constructing those, you should sell them for profit... Lose the hostility bud
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btw I don't think canard did anything dirty here at all, if anything Baggett was a bit brash, I just think that Canard wants it a bit to bad and makes some poor decisions on the track.
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Crush 3/20/2016 9:49pm
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Kiwi, he would have made the pass if Bagget doesn't close the door, but I think the point more is that Trey was going for a comparatively low percentage and aggressive move... It's not the first time.

If he does that move on the inside then there is no issue... As is Blake is certainly not required to let Trey go around the outside.

Put it this way, he's literally at the mercy of a guy he's trying to pass and as usual went 110% in close proximity to another rider... which for example, is something you rarely if ever see Dungey do... It's not bashing, it's fact.
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kiwifan 3/20/2016 9:55pm
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DumpsterLuv wrote:
Canard is one of my favorite riders "bro", I'm not being anti canard. I just think he (canard) needs to be a bit more tactical when...
Canard is one of my favorite riders "bro", I'm not being anti canard. I just think he (canard) needs to be a bit more tactical when passing riders he is obviously faster then, that's all I was trying to say.
kiwifan wrote:
so lets see, by your logic he should never attempt an inside pass (when its clearly on) because the rider MIGHT square him up to prevent...
so lets see, by your logic he should never attempt an inside pass (when its clearly on) because the rider MIGHT square him up to prevent the pass and therefore make contact...have I summed it up correctly?
DumpsterLuv wrote:
nice straw man, you are good at constructing those, you should sell them for profit... Lose the hostility bud *edit btw I don't think canard did...
nice straw man, you are good at constructing those, you should sell them for profit... Lose the hostility bud
*edit
btw I don't think canard did anything dirty here at all, if anything Baggett was a bit brash, I just think that Canard wants it a bit to bad and makes some poor decisions on the track.
tell me where the hostility is in my statement????

so did I sum it up correctly?
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kiwifan 3/20/2016 9:56pm
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Kiwi, he would have made the pass if Bagget doesn't close the door, but I think the point more is that Trey was going for a...
Kiwi, he would have made the pass if Bagget doesn't close the door, but I think the point more is that Trey was going for a comparatively low percentage and aggressive move... It's not the first time.

If he does that move on the inside then there is no issue... As is Blake is certainly not required to let Trey go around the outside.

Put it this way, he's literally at the mercy of a guy he's trying to pass and as usual went 110% in close proximity to another rider... which for example, is something you rarely if ever see Dungey do... It's not bashing, it's fact.
doesnt the likes of Anderson make those types of passes all the time?... I dont see countless threads on him like there is for Canard

Dungey is the best tactical rider out there so unfair to compare them...RD is daylights different to any other rider

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