A plan to move dirt bikes out of Baltimore neighborhoods

3/5/2016 11:32am
Seems like it would be cheaper for the city to just assemble some kind of special task force to catch them all. I bet a well...
Seems like it would be cheaper for the city to just assemble some kind of special task force to catch them all. I bet a well funded team of investigators could eliminate that problem in one summer.
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Eventually shots would be fired. That's essentially the last thing any pd wants these days.
I agree, I just think they should explore other alternatives on enforcing the laws they have instead of wasting a bunch of money. If it has become this big of a problem, they should stop being a bunch of pussies and take care of it.
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This is a perfect example of racism in America. You have one person on this board defending criminals based solely on one thing....their color. If the wheelie boys were white, brown, yellow or red he wound be nowhere in sight. Criminals come in all colors and they always have and always will. A complete racist will defend the color of his choice. Congrats Lenny for truly exposing what you really are
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Lenny, my buddy got his bike stolen from one of your wheelie boys in Baltimore a few months ago. Luckily he got it back. And talking to the police- TONS of bikes that are in the hands of the wheelie boys are stolen.

I hate the attitude we seem to have in the US. Guys steal bikes. They ride them in the street. And now we need to use tax money to buy them a nice facility to ride them? What the fuck?

I bought my bike, wheres my free riding area?
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KennyT wrote:
This is a perfect example of racism in America. You have one person on this board defending criminals based solely on one thing....their color. If the...
This is a perfect example of racism in America. You have one person on this board defending criminals based solely on one thing....their color. If the wheelie boys were white, brown, yellow or red he wound be nowhere in sight. Criminals come in all colors and they always have and always will. A complete racist will defend the color of his choice. Congrats Lenny for truly exposing what you really are
Did I start this thread?...and what I say in here is only my opinion?..I never defended anybody, never brought up color, just that I thought it was a good idea to open a park for these Cats..exposing me for what I am?...are you posting sitting in front of a mirror?...Look at all the racist remarks thrown at me...

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I didn't read all of the thread, but I feel like these people ride the way they do on the streets as a form of expression. I do not think they will feel that they are able to express themselves on a world class race facility
3/5/2016 12:50pm
I think I'd like to draft a screenplay. I'll title it "Dirtbike Island". The premise is that a gang of outlaw wheelie boys who terrorize(?) the streets of Baltimore by riding spectacular wheelies, speeding, and creating general mayhem are rounded up by an elite squad of militant police and banished to a secret, abandoned tropical island that was used by the military in the 80's to train hybrid Wolf Dolphins.

Fortunately for the bikers who were banished with their motos and quad cycles (because it's a movie). The island has a world class outdoor track, and two supercross tracks. One on the west coast of the island and another on the east coast. With no normals to bother with their antics It's a moto free-for-all. Or is it? Are they really alone? Will they stick together to discover the island's secrets or will the mysteries of Dirtbike Island split them apart in a battle royal mud race?

Of course the sequel will be "Return To Dirtbike Island" and will employ a revenge plot.

The fact that some of you feel that building a dirtbike park anywhere for ANY reason is a bad thing, is beyond me. Intervention and opportunities to make better choices are rarely a bad thing. Don't you guys watch CHiP's?

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I think I'd like to draft a screenplay. I'll title it "Dirtbike Island". The premise is that a gang of outlaw wheelie boys who terrorize(?) the...
I think I'd like to draft a screenplay. I'll title it "Dirtbike Island". The premise is that a gang of outlaw wheelie boys who terrorize(?) the streets of Baltimore by riding spectacular wheelies, speeding, and creating general mayhem are rounded up by an elite squad of militant police and banished to a secret, abandoned tropical island that was used by the military in the 80's to train hybrid Wolf Dolphins.

Fortunately for the bikers who were banished with their motos and quad cycles (because it's a movie). The island has a world class outdoor track, and two supercross tracks. One on the west coast of the island and another on the east coast. With no normals to bother with their antics It's a moto free-for-all. Or is it? Are they really alone? Will they stick together to discover the island's secrets or will the mysteries of Dirtbike Island split them apart in a battle royal mud race?

Of course the sequel will be "Return To Dirtbike Island" and will employ a revenge plot.

The fact that some of you feel that building a dirtbike park anywhere for ANY reason is a bad thing, is beyond me. Intervention and opportunities to make better choices are rarely a bad thing. Don't you guys watch CHiP's?

Hahaha!
Stellar post!

I like your script/plot much better than Time Rider: The Adventure of Lyle Swann. Smile
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KennyT wrote:
This is a perfect example of racism in America. You have one person on this board defending criminals based solely on one thing....their color. If the...
This is a perfect example of racism in America. You have one person on this board defending criminals based solely on one thing....their color. If the wheelie boys were white, brown, yellow or red he wound be nowhere in sight. Criminals come in all colors and they always have and always will. A complete racist will defend the color of his choice. Congrats Lenny for truly exposing what you really are
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Did I start this thread?...and what I say in here is only my opinion?..I never defended anybody, never brought up color, just that I thought it...
Did I start this thread?...and what I say in here is only my opinion?..I never defended anybody, never brought up color, just that I thought it was a good idea to open a park for these Cats..exposing me for what I am?...are you posting sitting in front of a mirror?...Look at all the racist remarks thrown at me...
Cmon Lenny, you know damn well if they spent.millions of tax dollars building these cats a park they would not want anything to do with it because it was within the law. Nobody can change the way these guys were raised with just one gesture.

And it is not just the inner city black kids. It would not work with the backwoods rednecks, Hispanic or Asian gang bangers. All of these kids doing these kinds of actions can make a serious attempt to get out of the situations they are in but it is their choice to stay where they are and continue to give a big F you to the laws that exist for public safety and then blame law enforcement for doing their jobs
3/5/2016 1:21pm
"This place is a cesspool".

Hello, my name is Wind O'Neal. I run the only certified track and trail building company in Maryland. We have proposed to build a motocross track in Baltimore City. They are considering it. They've scheduled a meeting. I will go and put into the record what we aim to do. There is a lot of misinformation, spread by people with a deficit of same. This thread is becoming typical - it's nothing new to me, and it's the reason I've not posted much here since MotoTalk became VitalMX. Why bother.

In the interest of my friend who posted this for me (who is one of the few who walks the walk - he created the first glossy moto mag for our region and I hear was an ArenaCross champSmile , I am posting to clear things up. First, please VitalMX readers, if you care about our sport please understand that you may not know any facts regarding this and you are only posting opinions which are likely factually incorrect.

I have been working for 15 years in Maryland to get this problem solved. All riding in most of Maryland is illegal. It is a result of a totalitarian agenda perpetuated by Progressives here in the the Socialist Republic of Maryland. I could give up. I may! But I want to see how this works out. I don't know if Grady was talking about me, but thanks for your help, Grady! I got the materials and have found them useful. Anyway, what we are proposing is a regular motocross track. There's no need to superimpose your erroneous predictions into this because we don't know the future.

Here's all I know, without adding anything that could be incorrect. To describe EVERYTHING we have in mind would take a long meeting, or a long post, neither of which have ever worked out for me (guess what? people don't come to meetings). With all the land in Maryland, and with the largest landholder being the Department of Natural Resources, the state doesn't really care about us. There's one little trail opening up 3 hours away from here if you reserve a camp spot. I won't go into that. It's totalitarian. Anyway, the ONE place anybody would NOT expect to have the government open a riding area (Baltimore City) is the ONE government that came to us. I said YES.

In short, here is my plan: VIN numbers taken at the gate. ID, names and addresses upon entry, fences with barbed wire, private security all over, government does not pay for this we do, police will be outside if we need them, location is right off the highway so no need to drive through city, safe part of town, there is a separate area for wheelies / grandstands, the motocross facility is not for illegal activity but for the sport of motocross only. I will reiterate because many posters like to fill in the blanks with erroneous information: this is for riders with riding gear and legal bikes to do motocross, and in another part of the park wheelies.

I have no idea if this will diminish illegal street riding. Not my problem. But the City has land. They are asking a private company for some solution. To me the problem is not enough legal riding places locally. I hope to make money. I hope to offer a safe place for dads and moms and kids to ride or race if they want. This has nothing to do with illegal street riding. There's no data suggesting it will. I make no promises. But a place is only a cesspool if you make it one, like this thread has become. I don't know Lenny but it is unfair to paint him as racist because he acknowledges that all Americans are citizens ... with rights. Last time I checked, we have a right to ride. The enemy is authoritarianism, and low-information voters. We need to check power, and educate the voters.

Finally, I appreciate if you think this is a pipe dream. Would like to wait until government solves all your problems? How's that going for ya? This is a private company, engaging in capitalism using government land (public land, I remind you). Would you rather this land just sit and become landfill or something? Or can I get your support to turn an unused park (where some are already riding) into a moto haven? Got a positive suggestion? Let's fucking hear it!!!
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Build park for a bunch of theiving pieces of shit

more bikes get stolen to ride at tax-payer funded motopark

motopark turns to drugs/more crime/more theft

Liberal fucks count it as a win for social progress

more people killed to steal bikes from their homeboys
3/5/2016 3:00pm
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Build park for a bunch of theiving pieces of shit more bikes get stolen to ride at tax-payer funded motopark motopark turns to drugs/more crime/more theft...
Build park for a bunch of theiving pieces of shit

more bikes get stolen to ride at tax-payer funded motopark

motopark turns to drugs/more crime/more theft

Liberal fucks count it as a win for social progress

more people killed to steal bikes from their homeboys
Smithfield, Virginia's pride. Take a look in the mirror. You can't read!
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EVERYONE IS RACIST AND IGNORANT

HORRIBLE HORRIBLE PEOPLE

YALL ARENT AGREEING WITH ME SO ILL CALL YOU RACIST
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moto455va wrote:
Build park for a bunch of theiving pieces of shit more bikes get stolen to ride at tax-payer funded motopark motopark turns to drugs/more crime/more theft...
Build park for a bunch of theiving pieces of shit

more bikes get stolen to ride at tax-payer funded motopark

motopark turns to drugs/more crime/more theft

Liberal fucks count it as a win for social progress

more people killed to steal bikes from their homeboys
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Smithfield, Virginia's pride. Take a look in the mirror. You can't read!
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MX Council wrote:
"This place is a cesspool". Hello, my name is Wind O'Neal. I run the only certified track and trail building company in Maryland. We have proposed...
"This place is a cesspool".

Hello, my name is Wind O'Neal. I run the only certified track and trail building company in Maryland. We have proposed to build a motocross track in Baltimore City. They are considering it. They've scheduled a meeting. I will go and put into the record what we aim to do. There is a lot of misinformation, spread by people with a deficit of same. This thread is becoming typical - it's nothing new to me, and it's the reason I've not posted much here since MotoTalk became VitalMX. Why bother.

In the interest of my friend who posted this for me (who is one of the few who walks the walk - he created the first glossy moto mag for our region and I hear was an ArenaCross champSmile , I am posting to clear things up. First, please VitalMX readers, if you care about our sport please understand that you may not know any facts regarding this and you are only posting opinions which are likely factually incorrect.

I have been working for 15 years in Maryland to get this problem solved. All riding in most of Maryland is illegal. It is a result of a totalitarian agenda perpetuated by Progressives here in the the Socialist Republic of Maryland. I could give up. I may! But I want to see how this works out. I don't know if Grady was talking about me, but thanks for your help, Grady! I got the materials and have found them useful. Anyway, what we are proposing is a regular motocross track. There's no need to superimpose your erroneous predictions into this because we don't know the future.

Here's all I know, without adding anything that could be incorrect. To describe EVERYTHING we have in mind would take a long meeting, or a long post, neither of which have ever worked out for me (guess what? people don't come to meetings). With all the land in Maryland, and with the largest landholder being the Department of Natural Resources, the state doesn't really care about us. There's one little trail opening up 3 hours away from here if you reserve a camp spot. I won't go into that. It's totalitarian. Anyway, the ONE place anybody would NOT expect to have the government open a riding area (Baltimore City) is the ONE government that came to us. I said YES.

In short, here is my plan: VIN numbers taken at the gate. ID, names and addresses upon entry, fences with barbed wire, private security all over, government does not pay for this we do, police will be outside if we need them, location is right off the highway so no need to drive through city, safe part of town, there is a separate area for wheelies / grandstands, the motocross facility is not for illegal activity but for the sport of motocross only. I will reiterate because many posters like to fill in the blanks with erroneous information: this is for riders with riding gear and legal bikes to do motocross, and in another part of the park wheelies.

I have no idea if this will diminish illegal street riding. Not my problem. But the City has land. They are asking a private company for some solution. To me the problem is not enough legal riding places locally. I hope to make money. I hope to offer a safe place for dads and moms and kids to ride or race if they want. This has nothing to do with illegal street riding. There's no data suggesting it will. I make no promises. But a place is only a cesspool if you make it one, like this thread has become. I don't know Lenny but it is unfair to paint him as racist because he acknowledges that all Americans are citizens ... with rights. Last time I checked, we have a right to ride. The enemy is authoritarianism, and low-information voters. We need to check power, and educate the voters.

Finally, I appreciate if you think this is a pipe dream. Would like to wait until government solves all your problems? How's that going for ya? This is a private company, engaging in capitalism using government land (public land, I remind you). Would you rather this land just sit and become landfill or something? Or can I get your support to turn an unused park (where some are already riding) into a moto haven? Got a positive suggestion? Let's fucking hear it!!!
This is gold, I mean really...

By this threads topic the problem is: Dirt bikes illegally being ridden in the streets of Baltimore, many of which are stolen, and the chaos and mayhem that ensues because of such illegal activity.

And your proposal has NOTHING to do with the problem, WOW! Here are your words "I have no idea if this will diminish illegal street riding. Not my problem."

Here's a positive suggestion, create a motocross outreach program that helps genuine motocross enthusiasts(riders and families) relocate out of that shit hole and to an area that actually welcomes and facilitates the sport of motocross Wink

To condense simply what you wrote it looks like this:

"My pipe dream is, as a private company, to open a motocross park using public land in the hopes to make money, giving genuine moto enthusiasts in the Baltimore area a safe place to ride."

Got it Wink

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Yall dont think this "facility" will encourage even more bike theft?

Youre naive as shit if you think it wont.
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What is the OP put out a message of something positive, and these Cats in an attempt to read it and came unglued without even giving these Cats a chance..Right off the bat they shot it down, and all the bikes were stolen...after years not getting shit and treated like shit maybe you can see where these Cats are coming from..I know I can, I've been on both sides of the law...
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moto455va wrote:
Yall dont think this "facility" will encourage even more bike theft?

Youre naive as shit if you think it wont.
Didn't he say they would take precautions for that?..Do y'all even read?...
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Didn't he say they would take precautions for that?..Do y'all even read?...
Yea? How exactly are they gonna accomplish that?
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moto455va wrote:
Yall dont think this "facility" will encourage even more bike theft?

Youre naive as shit if you think it wont.

Well, it might. Kids that can't afford the whole legal show, that can only watch the upper crust thru a barb wired fence,
I can see how they would feel.

But, in a perfect world, a few inner city kids, and hopefully their families, would go with the program.

But, in the real world, the monies involved to participate in that vision just aren't there, IMO, for the inner city crowd. Whatever race or creed.

Hats off to mxcouncil, on keeping the faith, for 15 years at that.
Hopefully, he pulls it off. Who knows, a place like that could turn into a magnet for the fractured, scattered, out
of touch with each other crowd of dirt bike riders in that area.
I mean, would it be cool or what, when hundreds, maybe a few thousand, got to know each other enough to actually
demand from the powers that be something for them.

And yeah, it may give the locals a taste, something to strive for, something besides a six pack of colt45 every evening.
Would be a grand thing if it did.
Who knows, there might be some smoldering, angry kid right now, who after seeing the inequality of life, channel that anger into a job, a bike and a will to kick the ass of every motor home kid out there, on their own terms.

In a perfect world, maybe.
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Well, it might. Kids that can't afford the whole legal show, that can only watch the upper crust thru a barb wired fence, I can see...

Well, it might. Kids that can't afford the whole legal show, that can only watch the upper crust thru a barb wired fence,
I can see how they would feel.

But, in a perfect world, a few inner city kids, and hopefully their families, would go with the program.

But, in the real world, the monies involved to participate in that vision just aren't there, IMO, for the inner city crowd. Whatever race or creed.

Hats off to mxcouncil, on keeping the faith, for 15 years at that.
Hopefully, he pulls it off. Who knows, a place like that could turn into a magnet for the fractured, scattered, out
of touch with each other crowd of dirt bike riders in that area.
I mean, would it be cool or what, when hundreds, maybe a few thousand, got to know each other enough to actually
demand from the powers that be something for them.

And yeah, it may give the locals a taste, something to strive for, something besides a six pack of colt45 every evening.
Would be a grand thing if it did.
Who knows, there might be some smoldering, angry kid right now, who after seeing the inequality of life, channel that anger into a job, a bike and a will to kick the ass of every motor home kid out there, on their own terms.

In a perfect world, maybe.
Amen..
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Oh yea? What about all the kids who deal with inequalities in life but DONT go around stealing motorcycles?
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Oh yea? What about all the kids who deal with inequalities in life but DONT go around stealing motorcycles?
Are you suggesting all people should have similar outcomes for similar situations?

Human psychology, if you don't think it's the work of the devil, I encourage people to better understand it.
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Wishing you the best of luck, Wind. I'm not far away, I may be able to help out somehow.
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Find out when there riding the streets and run them all over with semi trucks is what I would do.
This
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Oh yea? What about all the kids who deal with inequalities in life but DONT go around stealing motorcycles?
Well, good on them.
They will, by and large, reap the good things in this life.
That in itself is reward enough.

Any way you look at it, there will be those that will not change.
That will resent The Man telling them how to be.

So, in this case, the 64,000 dollar question, what do you do with the, I dunno, I'm gonna throw out 80 percent
that say fuck you, and your entry fee, I'm riding thru the Harbor Tunnel tonight, pulling wheel half way thru.

Do you guys really think the majority in the inner city will back a cop when he rams the guy from behind, and puts a stop to it?
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These cats been dreamin of riding they whole life!



Just need somewhere legal to throw down some sik triks!



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MX Council wrote:
"This place is a cesspool". Hello, my name is Wind O'Neal. I run the only certified track and trail building company in Maryland. We have proposed...
"This place is a cesspool".

Hello, my name is Wind O'Neal. I run the only certified track and trail building company in Maryland. We have proposed to build a motocross track in Baltimore City. They are considering it. They've scheduled a meeting. I will go and put into the record what we aim to do. There is a lot of misinformation, spread by people with a deficit of same. This thread is becoming typical - it's nothing new to me, and it's the reason I've not posted much here since MotoTalk became VitalMX. Why bother.

In the interest of my friend who posted this for me (who is one of the few who walks the walk - he created the first glossy moto mag for our region and I hear was an ArenaCross champSmile , I am posting to clear things up. First, please VitalMX readers, if you care about our sport please understand that you may not know any facts regarding this and you are only posting opinions which are likely factually incorrect.

I have been working for 15 years in Maryland to get this problem solved. All riding in most of Maryland is illegal. It is a result of a totalitarian agenda perpetuated by Progressives here in the the Socialist Republic of Maryland. I could give up. I may! But I want to see how this works out. I don't know if Grady was talking about me, but thanks for your help, Grady! I got the materials and have found them useful. Anyway, what we are proposing is a regular motocross track. There's no need to superimpose your erroneous predictions into this because we don't know the future.

Here's all I know, without adding anything that could be incorrect. To describe EVERYTHING we have in mind would take a long meeting, or a long post, neither of which have ever worked out for me (guess what? people don't come to meetings). With all the land in Maryland, and with the largest landholder being the Department of Natural Resources, the state doesn't really care about us. There's one little trail opening up 3 hours away from here if you reserve a camp spot. I won't go into that. It's totalitarian. Anyway, the ONE place anybody would NOT expect to have the government open a riding area (Baltimore City) is the ONE government that came to us. I said YES.

In short, here is my plan: VIN numbers taken at the gate. ID, names and addresses upon entry, fences with barbed wire, private security all over, government does not pay for this we do, police will be outside if we need them, location is right off the highway so no need to drive through city, safe part of town, there is a separate area for wheelies / grandstands, the motocross facility is not for illegal activity but for the sport of motocross only. I will reiterate because many posters like to fill in the blanks with erroneous information: this is for riders with riding gear and legal bikes to do motocross, and in another part of the park wheelies.

I have no idea if this will diminish illegal street riding. Not my problem. But the City has land. They are asking a private company for some solution. To me the problem is not enough legal riding places locally. I hope to make money. I hope to offer a safe place for dads and moms and kids to ride or race if they want. This has nothing to do with illegal street riding. There's no data suggesting it will. I make no promises. But a place is only a cesspool if you make it one, like this thread has become. I don't know Lenny but it is unfair to paint him as racist because he acknowledges that all Americans are citizens ... with rights. Last time I checked, we have a right to ride. The enemy is authoritarianism, and low-information voters. We need to check power, and educate the voters.

Finally, I appreciate if you think this is a pipe dream. Would like to wait until government solves all your problems? How's that going for ya? This is a private company, engaging in capitalism using government land (public land, I remind you). Would you rather this land just sit and become landfill or something? Or can I get your support to turn an unused park (where some are already riding) into a moto haven? Got a positive suggestion? Let's fucking hear it!!!
This is gold, I mean really... By this threads topic the problem is: Dirt bikes illegally being ridden in the streets of Baltimore, many of which...
This is gold, I mean really...

By this threads topic the problem is: Dirt bikes illegally being ridden in the streets of Baltimore, many of which are stolen, and the chaos and mayhem that ensues because of such illegal activity.

And your proposal has NOTHING to do with the problem, WOW! Here are your words "I have no idea if this will diminish illegal street riding. Not my problem."

Here's a positive suggestion, create a motocross outreach program that helps genuine motocross enthusiasts(riders and families) relocate out of that shit hole and to an area that actually welcomes and facilitates the sport of motocross Wink

To condense simply what you wrote it looks like this:

"My pipe dream is, as a private company, to open a motocross park using public land in the hopes to make money, giving genuine moto enthusiasts in the Baltimore area a safe place to ride."

Got it Wink

Thanks for reposting just. I was worried VitalMXers couldn't comprehend. You condensed it nicely: my dream is to open a motocross park using public land.

As you may know, not every detail can be delivered to you, succinctly, free of charge, or free of some effort for you to grasp. I used to hold meetings on this sort of thing and nobody came. So I'm well aware of those armchair fencing champions who have great opinions and show up for nothing when it counts. I have little time for ignoramuses.

But since you did the others the great good favor of reposting (because they obviously are having trouble with it) I will indulge you. My company is a non-profit. It is a private company. It is what you need to get this sort of thing done. To make a track break even you need a good income stream and keep expenses tight. You'll understand.

I won't actually make any profit off of this. I'll screw up my family's vacations because of this. I'll piss them off - almost everyone I know who has run a track has ended a marriage. So let's get real. What is my motivation? To help the sport of motocross in my own backyard (which happens to be Central Maryland). To those of you who post without having anything to contribute that will benefit us, please stay out of the way. To those of you who post with no intention of coming to Maryland to ride, keep out of our way. Please.

For those that can't understand the OP "a plan to move dirt bikes out of Baltimore neighborhoods ..." it is the title of the Baltimore City Resolution the government gave it. It's not mine. Get a clue. I've stated as clear as is humanly possibly on the day of the Daytona SX (and night of an incredible international guitar concert I just attended) what you need to know to help out without making an utter ass out of yourself (backwater virginia). If you need more info I'll try to provide it.

Please don't come to this meeting if you intend to cause trouble. This is for the citizens of Baltimore City to decide if they need a riding area. If it goes well or goes ill I have no choice but to honor THEIR decision. Stop making this about YOU. The Motocross Council is offering our help. If you can't do the same, just save the bandwidth please. Your stupid opinion is not needed and you are just being rude. Read the available materials before posting.

Now I have to rewind to see what happened to Mookie.
3/5/2016 9:31pm
SX track kind of sucks in places but I like the start. Reminds of Valkenswaard.

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