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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2016 10:41pm
what's pourcel doing out there? he literally pulled up on the main start to make sure he started last. it the heat, going high in the bowls just letting guys truck on by. fast in the day but won't race at night. why?
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F150Motocrosser 1/25/2016 8:34am
1/25/2016 8:34am
Makes literally zero sense.

In qualifying he went from a 1.06 to setting the fastest lap.

Bad starts are one thing.. but how he isn't able to charge inside the top 10 is beyond me
crusty_xx 1/25/2016 8:43am
1/25/2016 8:43am
Because he's riding cautious due to his injury. You can't ride cautious in Supercross, it just won't work.

What I didn't get was: he chose the way inside for the heat race (he had first gate pick for that race).
Then he advanced through the semi and chose the very outside gate for the main.
Those were probably the two worst gates on the whole grid
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BobPA 1/25/2016 8:44am
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Have you heard about the new French tanks...

1 speed forward and 13 in reverse

I think the same theory applies
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He started dead last and finished 12th, that's not too bad. He hasn't raced SX in 5 years. Give the guy a break. It's blatantly obvious that he has the speed, he's just being sensible whilst he gets back into it and not taking unnecessary risks

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hillbilly 1/25/2016 8:45am
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Maybe he has had his share of bad injury and didn't want day za voo all over again on that sketchy 1st turn jump section.

Guessing but that is how we roll round hear ,write?
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hammertime 1/25/2016 9:07am
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RG1 wrote:
He started dead last and finished 12th, that's not too bad. He hasn't raced SX in 5 years. Give the guy a break. It's blatantly obvious...
He started dead last and finished 12th, that's not too bad. He hasn't raced SX in 5 years. Give the guy a break. It's blatantly obvious that he has the speed, he's just being sensible whilst he gets back into it and not taking unnecessary risks
with dnf's, crashes in the hoops and the obvious few regular lappers 12th is a ride in the park for him. he's been healthy for 2 months that i know of. it's just embarrassing to see a big salary factory rider blatently not trying. but the bleeding hearts.....just keep making excuses for the guy.

ps. i got down on my knees and begged gibby to let me back in here....so don't clip me. i'm "jus sayin"....non maliiciously!!!
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GuyB 1/25/2016 9:13am
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hammertime wrote:
what's pourcel doing out there? he literally pulled up on the main start to make sure he started last. it the heat, going high in the...
what's pourcel doing out there? he literally pulled up on the main start to make sure he started last. it the heat, going high in the bowls just letting guys truck on by. fast in the day but won't race at night. why?
Ah yeah...so much for your new positive attitude to start the season...
crusty_xx 1/25/2016 9:22am
1/25/2016 9:22am
RG1 wrote:
He started dead last and finished 12th, that's not too bad. He hasn't raced SX in 5 years. Give the guy a break. It's blatantly obvious...
He started dead last and finished 12th, that's not too bad. He hasn't raced SX in 5 years. Give the guy a break. It's blatantly obvious that he has the speed, he's just being sensible whilst he gets back into it and not taking unnecessary risks
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with dnf's, crashes in the hoops and the obvious few regular lappers 12th is a ride in the park for him. he's been healthy for 2...
with dnf's, crashes in the hoops and the obvious few regular lappers 12th is a ride in the park for him. he's been healthy for 2 months that i know of. it's just embarrassing to see a big salary factory rider blatently not trying. but the bleeding hearts.....just keep making excuses for the guy.

ps. i got down on my knees and begged gibby to let me back in here....so don't clip me. i'm "jus sayin"....non maliiciously!!!
he finished the national season 5th in points. Ahead of all other big salary factory riders. That's pretty good for someone who's not trying.

He comes back from a huge injury, overcomes it, makes a comeback in Supercross in one of the toughest seasons ever and people are giving him shit because he finished 12th. Wow
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hammertime 1/25/2016 9:26am
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hammertime wrote:
what's pourcel doing out there? he literally pulled up on the main start to make sure he started last. it the heat, going high in the...
what's pourcel doing out there? he literally pulled up on the main start to make sure he started last. it the heat, going high in the bowls just letting guys truck on by. fast in the day but won't race at night. why?
GuyB wrote:
Ah yeah...so much for your new positive attitude to start the season...
just this one is bugging me man! other than that, so far so good!! the glass is half full in 2016!
practicetrackhero 1/25/2016 9:27am
1/25/2016 9:27am
Im not mad he got 12th, but for a guy who I know could do so much better it sucks to see he doesnt even really try. I watched him just go high and let guys go by. He also seems kind of stiff on the bike. No real style and just straight jumping everything no flashy whips or nothin
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gharmon 1/25/2016 9:29am
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crusty_xx wrote:
Because he's riding cautious due to his injury. You can't ride cautious in Supercross, it just won't work. What I didn't get was: he chose the...
Because he's riding cautious due to his injury. You can't ride cautious in Supercross, it just won't work.

What I didn't get was: he chose the way inside for the heat race (he had first gate pick for that race).
Then he advanced through the semi and chose the very outside gate for the main.
Those were probably the two worst gates on the whole grid
Okay, I get that he is cautious due to injury but didn't he win TWO lites supercross titles since that accident? Not exactly sure when he had the wreck but I thought it was after the year he came over here and won one supercross race (phoenix) but before he came here full time?

Not hating on the guy just an observer.
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peelout 1/25/2016 9:30am
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i'll admit i'm a little shocked that he hasn't had a better result yet, but then again i'm not surprised either. i think the history of his injury is weighing on him and he's getting through the first 5-8 races before going for it kinda like he did in the nationals.

would love to see him win, podium, top 5, or top 10
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NotCore 1/25/2016 9:37am
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hammertime wrote:
what's pourcel doing out there? he literally pulled up on the main start to make sure he started last. it the heat, going high in the...
what's pourcel doing out there? he literally pulled up on the main start to make sure he started last. it the heat, going high in the bowls just letting guys truck on by. fast in the day but won't race at night. why?
GuyB wrote:
Ah yeah...so much for your new positive attitude to start the season...
Well, it's true that he seemed to pull up on the start to the main. He got a great jump from the far outside gate and seemed to be in position to grab a top five start halfway down the start straight. The camera angle changed and the next frame showed him in dead last, like he let off. It was weird, really. I think he's been saying over and again that he's putting no pressure on himself these first five rounds, and it's pretty clear that he didn't want to risk it like many here have said.

I'm glad someone else mentioned it because I noticed it as well.
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RG1 1/25/2016 9:44am
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Give him time. He'll get a podium before the end of the season
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Xeno 1/25/2016 9:50am
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hammertime wrote:
just this one is bugging me man! other than that, so far so good!! the glass is half full in 2016!
Pourcel said in a recent interview that he's apprehensive about racing in the middle of this 450 pack. Because he was out of SX for so long.
Maybe waiting for the class to thin-out with injuries and get comfortable racing next to these guys?

Doesn't matter to me either way- I'm not paying him!
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GuyB 1/25/2016 9:58am
1/25/2016 9:58am
I think that for a guy who hasn't done Supercross in a few years, and not at all on a 450, he's doing well.

I'd look for him to ramp it up after the first handful of races.
Harry Backmon 1/25/2016 10:05am
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I think that for a guy who hasn't done Supercross in a few years, and not at all on a 450, he's doing well. I'd look...
I think that for a guy who hasn't done Supercross in a few years, and not at all on a 450, he's doing well.

I'd look for him to ramp it up after the first handful of races.
There ya go...bringing the whole group down with common sense. Wink
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731chopper 1/25/2016 10:08am
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He just looks uncomfortable being close to people in traffic and I don't blame him. Although with the profession he has chosen he should probably start to get comfortable and maybe he will.

His speed has surprised me and he is great entertainment for us fans. You never know what you're going to get out of the guy and that is exciting!

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TeamPumpin 1/25/2016 10:13am
1/25/2016 10:13am
Listen to last week's Pulp show. Don't recall who was telling the story, but he said that CP prophesied that he will be towards the front after 5-6 rounds, and that he has done the same thing in the past and made truth of his statement.
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ATKpilot99 1/25/2016 10:19am
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RG1 wrote:
Give him time. He'll get a podium before the end of the season
I hope he does podium or even win , but at some point the past severe injury argument has to end . He's out there racing and healthy and as many pro riders have said if you're thinking about getting hurt out there it's time to hang it up.
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philG 1/25/2016 10:24am
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Maybe he should just ride over his head , and join the rest on the sidelines.

The guy is class, does things his way. If he stays fit , i am hoping for big things outdoors.
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Sandberm 1/25/2016 10:26am
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Round 6 I believe is when he is supposed to be comfortable and going for wins is what I heard from Weege.

Is it true that Team Honda sent Pourcel a highlight reel of Trey Canard racing incidents/crashes to spook him? I thought I heard Ping say that the other day.
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RG1 1/25/2016 10:29am
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RG1 wrote:
Give him time. He'll get a podium before the end of the season
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I hope he does podium or even win , but at some point the past severe injury argument has to end . He's out there racing...
I hope he does podium or even win , but at some point the past severe injury argument has to end . He's out there racing and healthy and as many pro riders have said if you're thinking about getting hurt out there it's time to hang it up.
I agree. There comes a time where he has to start putting the results in consistently, but he proved in the outdoors that he can do that, he just needs some time to adjust to the intensity of 450SX. What he is doing right now is great because he's showing that he has the speed by his qualifying, but he's not putting himself in danger or taking too many risks in the races. He's giving himself the best possible opportunity to perform in the latter stages of the season
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ATKpilot99 1/25/2016 10:29am
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philG wrote:
Maybe he should just ride over his head , and join the rest on the sidelines. The guy is class, does things his way. If he...
Maybe he should just ride over his head , and join the rest on the sidelines.

The guy is class, does things his way. If he stays fit , i am hoping for big things outdoors.
Nobody said he wasn't class but don't you think his team would have expected him to crack the top 10 by now ?
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Titan1 1/25/2016 10:30am
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He killed my fantasy picks at round one, that's for sure. LOL

He's always been an enigma. But, GuyB makes a good point...its his first year on a 450 in SX, major injuries...he's doing all right and probably about where he should be. Hopefully the mental side comes around for him, we all know he's got talent coming out his ears...
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ATKpilot99 1/25/2016 10:30am
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RG1 wrote:
Give him time. He'll get a podium before the end of the season
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I hope he does podium or even win , but at some point the past severe injury argument has to end . He's out there racing...
I hope he does podium or even win , but at some point the past severe injury argument has to end . He's out there racing and healthy and as many pro riders have said if you're thinking about getting hurt out there it's time to hang it up.
RG1 wrote:
I agree. There comes a time where he has to start putting the results in consistently, but he proved in the outdoors that he can do...
I agree. There comes a time where he has to start putting the results in consistently, but he proved in the outdoors that he can do that, he just needs some time to adjust to the intensity of 450SX. What he is doing right now is great because he's showing that he has the speed by his qualifying, but he's not putting himself in danger or taking too many risks in the races. He's giving himself the best possible opportunity to perform in the latter stages of the season
Fair enough . I wan't to see him up front as a fan and hope it happens soon.
woody woodpecker 1/25/2016 10:34am
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He would've got rammed off the track if he hadn't pulled up, yes he got a good start but not good enough to beat the guys on the inside coming across.
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hammertime 1/25/2016 10:47am
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RG1 wrote:
Give him time. He'll get a podium before the end of the season
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I hope he does podium or even win , but at some point the past severe injury argument has to end . He's out there racing...
I hope he does podium or even win , but at some point the past severe injury argument has to end . He's out there racing and healthy and as many pro riders have said if you're thinking about getting hurt out there it's time to hang it up.
podium or a win? my glass is more that half empty on this crap. get serious! you don't go from a lapper to beating ryan dungey in a few races. just racing for position would be a nice start!
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Sandberm 1/25/2016 10:47am
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If your the last guy out of the parking lot, why tailgate?
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DownSouth 1/25/2016 10:50am
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If he is so apprehensive now to ride near others how did he win 2 250 SX titles? That was after his injury as well and the 250 class is full of spazzed out kids instead of 450 veterans.

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