What top riders are using air forks

kong0036 wrote:

Was wondering with all the talk about air forks these days are there still any factory riders that use spring or oil forks

kong0036 wrote:

Thanks so much mate. WOW i thought a lot of the pro's didnt like the feel of the air forks. Thanks for all that hard work...

Thanks so much mate. WOW i thought a lot of the pro's didnt like the feel of the air forks. Thanks for all that hard work mate

Helder wrote:

Very surprising that the MCR guys aren't running A-Kit!!

ML512 wrote:

Production 48mm forks, especially the 2010 Honda CRF250R ones, are pretty damn close to A-Kit.

kiwifan wrote:

the KTM guys are going to be upset too, as the FE comes with air forks so therefore the 2017 KTMs will have them.... only a...

the KTM guys are going to be upset too, as the FE comes with air forks so therefore the 2017 KTMs will have them.... only a matter of time before Yamaha follow suit

Helder wrote:

Very surprising that the MCR guys aren't running A-Kit!!

ML512 wrote:

Production 48mm forks, especially the 2010 Honda CRF250R ones, are pretty damn close to A-Kit.

hvaughn88 wrote:

I read last week that Davi was running the air shock but not the fork yet? Is that still the case? The article said he was...

I read last week that Davi was running the air shock but not the fork yet? Is that still the case? The article said he was going to be moving to the air forks but didn't have any yet and there were only six in existence. Btw, I'm pretty sure it was in racer head, but I'll double check.

Edit: here's the excerpt from racer head:

Speaking of Millsaps, he was pretty good at A1 and flew under the radar with an eighth. As mentioned, Davi is using the air shock on his bike, but with spring forks. That's an odd combination for sure from what we've seen, and he's hoping to get a set of WP air forks on there as soon as he can to be on an all-air system like Andrew Short uses. The hold-up is how incredibly rare the air forks are, as there are just six sets in existence.

kiwifan wrote:

the KTM guys are going to be upset too, as the FE comes with air forks so therefore the 2017 KTMs will have them.... only a...

the KTM guys are going to be upset too, as the FE comes with air forks so therefore the 2017 KTMs will have them.... only a matter of time before Yamaha follow suit

h&m_cycle wrote:

Do all the riders have a choice of what to run? Springs or Air?...

Olson wrote:

Interesting. Any difference between US spec and EU spec?

Jrewing wrote:

I noticed on the technical touch site that you have the option of aoss cartridge or psf1. What's the difference between sss or aoss?

hvaughn88 wrote:

I read last week that Davi was running the air shock but not the fork yet? Is that still the case? The article said he was...

I read last week that Davi was running the air shock but not the fork yet? Is that still the case? The article said he was going to be moving to the air forks but didn't have any yet and there were only six in existence. Btw, I'm pretty sure it was in racer head, but I'll double check.

Edit: here's the excerpt from racer head:

Speaking of Millsaps, he was pretty good at A1 and flew under the radar with an eighth. As mentioned, Davi is using the air shock on his bike, but with spring forks. That's an odd combination for sure from what we've seen, and he's hoping to get a set of WP air forks on there as soon as he can to be on an all-air system like Andrew Short uses. The hold-up is how incredibly rare the air forks are, as there are just six sets in existence.

hvaughn88 wrote:

I read last week that Davi was running the air shock but not the fork yet? Is that still the case? The article said he was...

I read last week that Davi was running the air shock but not the fork yet? Is that still the case? The article said he was going to be moving to the air forks but didn't have any yet and there were only six in existence. Btw, I'm pretty sure it was in racer head, but I'll double check.

Edit: here's the excerpt from racer head:

Speaking of Millsaps, he was pretty good at A1 and flew under the radar with an eighth. As mentioned, Davi is using the air shock on his bike, but with spring forks. That's an odd combination for sure from what we've seen, and he's hoping to get a set of WP air forks on there as soon as he can to be on an all-air system like Andrew Short uses. The hold-up is how incredibly rare the air forks are, as there are just six sets in existence.

ML512 wrote:

Davi had air forks at San Diego...

h&m_cycle wrote:

Do all the riders have a choice of what to run? Springs or Air?...

ML512 wrote:

The teams all purchase their componentry, so yes they have a choice. I was present for a couple of them doing comparison tests when they swapped...

The teams all purchase their componentry, so yes they have a choice.

I was present for a couple of them doing comparison tests when they swapped over, such as Star Racing.

Geico Honda had a full stock of Showa A-Kit (spring sets), but purchased a large batch of KYB PSF1 forks and shocks before 2015 of their own accord, because of rider feedback.

4thGearPinned wrote:

Yamaha's going spring because it works better...

Cost savings is the main push for air on production bikes not performance.

Olson wrote:

Interesting. Any difference between US spec and EU spec?

ML512 wrote:

On which bike?

Olson wrote:

The one I quoted? CRF250R 2010. Is it the same fork on the US and EU model?

ML512 wrote:

Components, yes... Settings, I'm not sure.

mx317 wrote:

If it's cost, then why are most of the factory teams on air when cost is no factor?

ML512 wrote:

Here's a list, I'm going to be adding over the next few mins... check back as I update. KYB PSF1 Air Forks: 450s Justin Barcia -...

Here's a list, I'm going to be adding over the next few mins... check back as I update.

KYB PSF1 Air Forks:
450s
Justin Barcia - JGR Yamaha
Weston Peick - JGR Yamaha
Phil Nicoletti - JGR Yamaha
Trey Canard - HRC Honda
Cole Seely - HRC Honda
Justin Bogle - Geico/HRC Honda
Ken Roczen - RCH Suzuki
Eli Tomac - Monster Energy Kawasaki
Tommy Hahn - Rock River Yamaha
Josh Grant - HLTN Suzuki

250s
Jimmy Decotis - Gieco Honda
RJ Hampshire - Gieco Honda
Jordon Smith - Gieco Honda
Chase Sexton - Geico Honda
Christian Craig - Gieco Honda
Malcolm Stewart - Geico Honda
Alex Martin - Star Racing Yamaha
Jeremy Martin - Star Racing Yamaha
Cooper Webb - Star Racing Yamaha
Mitchell Harrison - Star Racing Yamaha
Aaron Plessinger - Star Racing Yamaha
Scott Champion - BPR Yamaha
Austin Politelli - BPR Yamaha
Cole Martinez - BPR Yamaha
Michael Leib - Slaton Yamaha
Benny Bloss - Slaton Yamaha
Colt Nicholls - Rock River Yamaha
Luke Renzland - Rock River Yamaha


KYB 48mm AOSS (spring)
450s
Chad Reed - Factory Yamaha

250s
Kyle Cunningham - Motorcycle Superstore Suzuki
Josh Osby - Motorcycle Superstore Suzuki
Marky Worth - Motorcycle Superstore Suzuki
Jimmy Albertson - Motorcycle Superstore Suzuki
Zach Bell - 51Fifty Yamaha
Hayden Mellross - 51Fifty Yamaha

Showa SFF TAC (air)
450s
Blake Baggett - Yoshimura Suzuki
James Stewart - Yoshimura Suzuki
Broc Tickle - RCH Suzuki
Wil Hahn - Factory Kawasaki
Jake Weimer - Tedder Kawasaki

250s
Austin Forkner - Pro Circuit Kawasaki
Tyler Bowers - Pro Circuit Kawasaki
Adam Cianciarulo - Pro Circuit Kawasaki
Chris Alldredge - Pro Circuit Kawasaki
Joey Savatgy - Pro Circuit Kawasaki
Arnaud Tonus - Pro Circuit Kawasaki
Nick Gaines - Trader's Kawasaki
Justin Starling - Trader's Kawasaki
Anthony Rodriguez - Trader's Kawasaki
Braken Hall - Rocky Mountain ATV/MC Honda
Kyle Peters - Ride365 Honda
Chase Marquier - Ride365 Honda
Zac Commans - Slaton KTM
Gannon Audette - Legends & Heroes Kawasaki
Matt Lemoine - JAB Kawasaki

Showa twin-cartidge spring fork
450s
Dakota Tedder - Tedder Racing - 49mm A-Kit
Adam Ecktinap - 722 Honda - 49mm A-Kit
Tyler Ecltinap - 722 Honda - 49mm A-Kit
Nick Schmidt - TPJ Suzuki - 49mm A-Kit
Mike Alessi - MCR Honda - 48mm production
Vince Friese - MCR Honda - 48mm production

250s
Freddy Noren - Rockwell Honda - 48mm production
Jackson Richardson - Honda - 49mm A-Kit

WP 52mm AER (air forks) + air shock
450s
Andrew Short - BTO KTM
Davi Millsaps - BTO KTM

WP 52mm Cone Valve (spring)
450s
Ryan Dungey - Red Bull KTM
Marvin Musquin - Red Bull KTM
Dean Wilson - Red Bull KTM
Jason Anderson - Rockstar Husqvarna
Christophe Pourcel - Rockstar Husqvarna
Justin Brayton - BTO KTM

250s
Zach Osborne - Rockstar Husqvarna
Martin Davalos - Rockstar Husqvarna
Jessy Nelson - TLD KTM
Shane McElrath - TLD KTM
Justin Hill - TLD KTM
Alex Frye - TLD KTM
Mitchell Oldenburg - TLD KTM
Matt Bisceglia - MAD Suzuki - 48mm version
Daniel Baker - MAD Suzuki - 48mm version
Cole Thompson - Slaton KTM - 48mm version

Ohlins spring forks
450s
Kyle Chisholm - Rocky Mountain ATV/MC Honda
Alex Ray - Privateer Honda

250s
Dillan Epstein - RBI Kawasaki
Maxime Desprey - BUD Kawasaki