2016 Dakar Rally

roundtheoutside 1/4/2016 7:57am
1/4/2016 7:57am
Last year Laia finished 9th overall. A few spots in front of Johnny Aubert btw. Hope she does good again this time.
overthebars39 1/4/2016 2:58pm
1/4/2016 2:58pm Edited Date/Time 1/4/2016 3:03pm
Toby Price looking good.

12:27 Bikes: Price wins the second stage
Toby Price, merely 16th on the prologue, Toby Price got the measure of the first full stage of the Dakar 2016 with a fine victory at Termas de Rio Hondo. The Australian made the difference in the last few kilometres to beat Ruben Faria by 20 seconds and take the lead in the general standings by just 2 seconds!
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Helder 1/5/2016 6:58am
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Barreda smoked it today making up the time he lost on the second stage! Price 10th like I said I'm not to keen on him leading out, I don't think his nav skills are up there with the more experienced guys, will probably win tomorrows stage i think.



crusty_xx 1/5/2016 7:01am
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Walkner up to 6th
Remember his name guys! Cool

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kaidoddragon 1/5/2016 10:24am
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What about cars. Sebastien Loeb winning both days for his debut...
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Titan1 1/5/2016 10:32am
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I've always wondered why Americans aren't at the same level in major off road events (Dakar, ISDE, even world enduro) as they are in motocross?
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Coyote 1/5/2016 10:39am
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Titan1 wrote:
I've always wondered why Americans aren't at the same level in major off road events (Dakar, ISDE, even world enduro) as they are in motocross?
ck out isde last year, top 3 were U.S. w/Sipes taking the win. Would of been a good battle between Kailub Russel and Sipes except Kailub dnf w/knee injury. We're making progress!!
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Titan1 1/5/2016 10:45am
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Titan1 wrote:
I've always wondered why Americans aren't at the same level in major off road events (Dakar, ISDE, even world enduro) as they are in motocross?
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ck out isde last year, top 3 were U.S. w/Sipes taking the win. Would of been a good battle between Kailub Russel and Sipes except Kailub...
ck out isde last year, top 3 were U.S. w/Sipes taking the win. Would of been a good battle between Kailub Russel and Sipes except Kailub dnf w/knee injury. We're making progress!!
Good point...America did great at ISDE last year, and could be probably contended for the win if not for Russel's knee. Hopefully they'll win that thing in '16....
RichardLoots 1/5/2016 10:59am
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the dutch cleaned the truck stage with a full dutch podium .... yeahh ... lol .... impressed by Loeb and his debut at Dakar ....
overthebars39 1/5/2016 12:57pm
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Titan1 wrote:
I've always wondered why Americans aren't at the same level in major off road events (Dakar, ISDE, even world enduro) as they are in motocross?
For Dakar: i think it's due to Baja. US folks seem to focus more on a national event.
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Titan1 1/5/2016 1:11pm
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Titan1 wrote:
I've always wondered why Americans aren't at the same level in major off road events (Dakar, ISDE, even world enduro) as they are in motocross?
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For Dakar: i think it's due to Baja. US folks seem to focus more on a national event.
I think I agree with you there...in America the focus is on supercross, so the very most talented riders gravitate towards that...where in other countries offroad is more important (than it is here) so more of their very most talented riders end up racing offroad.

I love offroad, I'd love to see more top riders doing that.

But I think that the very best of the best in America race supercross. No disrepsect to the Russell's, or Roberts, Mullens...but I think if Dungey or Villopoto or Canard or Stewart were to put their focus-an equal focus to what they put on moto-on ANY offroad series in the world, they'd end up dominating it. (The same could be said for Cairoli and Herlings or Everts.) So I guess that's why America doesn't do as well...its best riders are racing supercross.
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Dakar is very, very expensive. It's expensive to win in Baja, but Dakar is many times more expensive.
There are no rally races in the States, so it's difficult for a US racer to work towards a factory Dakar team.
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A friend of mine has done it 3 times, once off his own back and said if you wanna do it start with $100k and go from there, the time he did it off his own back he got 12th, I've spoken to people who have mortgaged their house multiple times to do it, they just live and breath it!!

Anyway onto tonight, Price to win the stage now he doesn't have to lead out.
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Must have been about ten years ago, Brabec just showed up one day to a District 37 race and whooped us all. Who was that new kid??

Incredible to see him develop in the company of American off-road legends like Caselli, Blais, competing with these guys in Dakar. I feel privileged to have lined up next to the dude when he was overalling the intermediate line.
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Helder 1/6/2016 4:21am
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Man the Honda boys are on it hard!
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Titan1 wrote:
I've always wondered why Americans aren't at the same level in major off road events (Dakar, ISDE, even world enduro) as they are in motocross?
overthebars39 wrote:
For Dakar: i think it's due to Baja. US folks seem to focus more on a national event.
Titan1 wrote:
I think I agree with you there...in America the focus is on supercross, so the very most talented riders gravitate towards that...where in other countries offroad...
I think I agree with you there...in America the focus is on supercross, so the very most talented riders gravitate towards that...where in other countries offroad is more important (than it is here) so more of their very most talented riders end up racing offroad.

I love offroad, I'd love to see more top riders doing that.

But I think that the very best of the best in America race supercross. No disrepsect to the Russell's, or Roberts, Mullens...but I think if Dungey or Villopoto or Canard or Stewart were to put their focus-an equal focus to what they put on moto-on ANY offroad series in the world, they'd end up dominating it. (The same could be said for Cairoli and Herlings or Everts.) So I guess that's why America doesn't do as well...its best riders are racing supercross.
One theory I've heard, make of it what you will although it probably applies more to ISDE and WEC, is that the style of off-road racing in the US doesn't enhance the cornering skills over a wide variety of terrain like the European style racing. I think I heard this explanation during the last decade when a procession of WEC guys came over and dominated the GNCC - Watts, Knight, Salminen, Whibley, Strang etc.

Mind you, those first three guys, at their respective peaks, were pretty much unbeatable in any form of off-road racing they turned their minds to.
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Helder 1/6/2016 7:33am
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Berreda smoked everyone again, price done well 5th for the day and 7th overall

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Helder 1/7/2016 3:09am
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Berreda got a 5min penalty for speeding again that dropped him to 3rd, here is the standings and start order today.



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Lots of penalties for speeding in "non timed areas" towns i guess. ,why would you ever get close to limit if it is untimed?

I must not understand how it figures into the overall time.

So,if you get a one minute penalty for speeding thru a town ,but you gained 5 minutes ,then speed thru every town, this is what i dont understand,if it is untimed but you gained time by speeding to warrant a penalty then it is timed into the overall stage.
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rohleder644 1/7/2016 6:14am
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Hey TeamGreen, give your girl Laia a big high five. Sounds like she spent a good 30+ minutes helping out a downed Pela Renet. Good stuff
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rohleder644 wrote:
Hey TeamGreen, give your girl Laia a big high five. Sounds like she spent a good 30+ minutes helping out a downed Pela Renet. Good stuff
x2 so proud of her!
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shanhard 1/7/2016 8:08am
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From the Dakar feed at the end of today's stage:

12:46 : Bikes: Toby Price wins! The KTM rider has just won the day’s special in the bike category. The Australian rode a faultless stage and opened the gap at the end of the special with a clever piece of navigation. He finishes with a lead of 5’57 over Joan Barreda, who trailed Price by 1’06’’ at CP2. The Spanish Honda HRC rider seems to have been relegated into third place on the stage by Antoine Meo. The five times world enduro champion has enjoyed a superb day and has shown an astonishing capacity to adapt to the rally’s demands.
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Frodad78 1/7/2016 9:45am
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So I caught some Dakar footage yesterday on CBS Sports. I don't know shit about Dakar so I thought i'd tune in and see whats up. I was shocked to see Malcom Smith's Son racing?!?! I had no idea, but what blew me away how much he looked like his dad. Pretty cool, that same ear to ear grin.

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rohleder644 1/7/2016 10:27am
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Andrew is every bit his dad's son. That dude lives for all things two wheeled. Whether it's pikes peak, 24 hour races, dakar.....he does everything. And does it well. That apple didn't fall far from the tree
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hillbilly wrote:
Lots of penalties for speeding in "non timed areas" towns i guess. ,why would you ever get close to limit if it is untimed? I must...
Lots of penalties for speeding in "non timed areas" towns i guess. ,why would you ever get close to limit if it is untimed?

I must not understand how it figures into the overall time.

So,if you get a one minute penalty for speeding thru a town ,but you gained 5 minutes ,then speed thru every town, this is what i dont understand,if it is untimed but you gained time by speeding to warrant a penalty then it is timed into the overall stage.
Pretty sure the whole route is timed. If you fall behind the the time you start the next special test (which is cast in stone), one must gamble a bit in the transfer sections to get back on time for the next special.

I'm sure someone who knows more about Dakar can offer up some info.
kaidoddragon 1/7/2016 11:55am
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Another win for Loeb today, 7:48 ahead of Peterhansel and 13:26 on Sainz. What a debut!
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hillbilly wrote:
Lots of penalties for speeding in "non timed areas" towns i guess. ,why would you ever get close to limit if it is untimed? I must...
Lots of penalties for speeding in "non timed areas" towns i guess. ,why would you ever get close to limit if it is untimed?

I must not understand how it figures into the overall time.

So,if you get a one minute penalty for speeding thru a town ,but you gained 5 minutes ,then speed thru every town, this is what i dont understand,if it is untimed but you gained time by speeding to warrant a penalty then it is timed into the overall stage.
The penalties they get for speeding are in the timed area. Even though there's a speed limit, it's still a timed area. During the special they sometimes cross a town or something like that. Of course they will give you a higher penalty than the time you gained with speeding.
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On completion of an incredible stage, Toby Price (KTM) has won the sixth stage of the Dakar 2016. The Australian made the difference in the last few kilometers of the day's special to beat Paulo Gonçalves (Honda) by 1'12” as well as Matthias Walkner by 1'15''. However, the Portuguese Honda rider remains on top of the general standings.

After coming to a standstill, Joan Barreda's signal has been picked up moving at the 302-km mark. Unfortunately for him, the Honda rider is being towed by his team-mate and Saint Bernard for the day, Paolo Ceci. The day promises to be a bad one for the Spaniard in terms of the general standings…

The sixth stage is definitely not smiling on the leaders of the bike category. Following the technical problems suffered by Joan Barreda (Honda), now the progress of Ruben Faria's (Husqvarna) has ground to a halt. The Portuguese rider fell and has fractured his wrist. Whilst Barreda was able to resume the race after a long wait, the same cannot be said for the unfortunate Faria, who is forced to withdraw due to his injury.

From Dakar.com
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