petition to bring back ktm 200

thrillbillie91
Edited Date/Time 12/17/2015 10:58am
I think this bike should be brought back to the range
The 03/04 is said to be the perfect bike between 125 & 250 which is quite a big gap for lighter/smaller riders
Just wondered if some consumer pressure might bring it back?
Yeah I know theres a 150 Wink

Listen up ktm!
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Spooner 12/15/2015 8:24am
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They still make a 200 xcw. And making a 150 into a 200 is just a cylinder, piston, and pipe I would guess?
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usp4u 12/15/2015 8:30am
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Spooner wrote:
They still make a 200 xcw. And making a 150 into a 200 is just a cylinder, piston, and pipe I would guess?
...and crank, pipe, PV timer. I think putting a 200 cylinder on a 150 crank results in a 188. I seem to remember that the 200 pipe is a must as well.
thrillbillie91 12/15/2015 8:31am
12/15/2015 8:31am Edited Date/Time 12/15/2015 8:33am
Thats a good point
An out of the box sx would be good like the old models though
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Andrew337 12/15/2015 8:32am
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I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still have some parts floating around if someone is looking to build one.



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Brought it back myself. Still bought a 150 though. +1 on bringing it back. Thinking of making the 150 a 200. It the wife's bike though. Maybe parts would get cheaper?



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Pirate421 12/15/2015 8:43am
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Maybe ktm could do 125, 200 and 300
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Pirate421 wrote:
Maybe ktm could do 125, 200 and 300
Maybe!
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de883zx 12/15/2015 8:52am
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Andrew337 wrote:
I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still...
I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still have some parts floating around if someone is looking to build one.



what you have might be interested?
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mx21 12/15/2015 9:08am
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The 200SX is an incredibly fun bike to ride. Be awesome to see it back. Here is my 2004 SX updated.

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endurox 12/15/2015 9:13am
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KTM should make 175,classic cc. stroke the 150 engine. Then put some Green or Blue plastic on it.
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FreshTopEnd 12/15/2015 9:42am
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Andrew337 wrote:
I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still...
I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still have some parts floating around if someone is looking to build one.



de883zx wrote:
what you have might be interested?
The SX power valve is the hard to find item for converting.. Believe the spring is tailored to how the 200 spools up, so folks say the transition is different from using a 150 or 125 SX power valve. Don't really know, clean jetting on the 200 probably makes more of a difference. The 200s are just awesome bikes, had two and the last one, an 08 close ratio XC , was about perfect.
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hvaughn88 12/15/2015 9:57am
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de883zx, that bike is absolutely gorgeous
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FWYT 12/15/2015 10:23am
12/15/2015 10:23am Edited Date/Time 12/15/2015 10:31am
I have an '04 200EXC. It frigging rules. So much fun and does everything.
You can find them, just get one. I wouldn't sweat trying to do the SX gearbox unless you
have money to burn. I found it pretty usable for moto by going way down on the gearing.
I think I'm running 12/51 or something. Works out pretty well. And then you have a super
low first so you can go do "King of Motos"! Smile



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cheers_22 12/15/2015 10:24am
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Andrew337 wrote:
I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still...
I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still have some parts floating around if someone is looking to build one.



I had a 2003 MXC way back in the day and it was a fantastic bike!
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de883zx wrote:
what you have might be interested?
I'll have to dig around when I'm home next week. I'm pretty sure I still have the CDI box, carburetor, frame, forks, shock. The bike had cracked cases, then the crankshaft broke (common on the 200SX), and the transmission was shot... so it's been sitting in a barn and disappearing piece by piece as I remember I still have it and list parts for sale.
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de883zx 12/15/2015 11:20am
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de883zx wrote:
what you have might be interested?
Andrew337 wrote:
I'll have to dig around when I'm home next week. I'm pretty sure I still have the CDI box, carburetor, frame, forks, shock. The bike had...
I'll have to dig around when I'm home next week. I'm pretty sure I still have the CDI box, carburetor, frame, forks, shock. The bike had cracked cases, then the crankshaft broke (common on the 200SX), and the transmission was shot... so it's been sitting in a barn and disappearing piece by piece as I remember I still have it and list parts for sale.
please email list to de883zx@aol.com. Thanks
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Phillip_Lamb 12/15/2015 11:34am
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Rode one back in 04. was a fun bike. had all the torque missing from a 125. it would be a perfect bike to race against 250f's
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Lurk Ing 12/15/2015 11:44am
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mx21 wrote:
The 200SX is an incredibly fun bike to ride. Be awesome to see it back. Here is my 2004 SX updated. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/9960/setup_checks/46066/photos/11635/s780_IMG_20150206_165726.jpg?1423849735[/img]
The 200SX is an incredibly fun bike to ride. Be awesome to see it back. Here is my 2004 SX updated.

That's cool. What did it take to change up the body work?

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TeamGreen 12/15/2015 11:50am
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FWYT wrote:
I have an '04 200EXC. It frigging rules. So much fun and does everything. You can find them, just get one. I wouldn't sweat trying to...
I have an '04 200EXC. It frigging rules. So much fun and does everything.
You can find them, just get one. I wouldn't sweat trying to do the SX gearbox unless you
have money to burn. I found it pretty usable for moto by going way down on the gearing.
I think I'm running 12/51 or something. Works out pretty well. And then you have a super
low first so you can go do "King of Motos"! Smile



I've seen this bike in action at Pala...it still rips.
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Andrew337 wrote:
I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still...
I sure do miss my '03 200SX. Had two of them! One of them had a lot of gremlins, the other was stone reliable. I still have some parts floating around if someone is looking to build one.





My old 2003 200 MXC
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mx21 12/15/2015 12:36pm
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mx21 wrote:
The 200SX is an incredibly fun bike to ride. Be awesome to see it back. Here is my 2004 SX updated. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/9960/setup_checks/46066/photos/11635/s780_IMG_20150206_165726.jpg?1423849735[/img]
The 200SX is an incredibly fun bike to ride. Be awesome to see it back. Here is my 2004 SX updated.

Lurk Ing wrote:
That's cool. What did it take to change up the body work?
Here is the build thread on it:
http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1122952-2004-to-2011-1015-plastic-conv…

Pretty much the biggest thing was welding a small 2 inch piece of tubing to back of the original mount for the newer subframe to bolt to.
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OldYZRider1 12/15/2015 8:06pm
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I wish they'd put out a new 200SX with the smaller cylinder like they did for the 150SX and then wrap it in Husky trim. I'd even say use the PDS suspension as I'm not racing SX and prefer not maintaining a link system. I've been able to adjust my '08 XC's stock suspension to my liking (it's better stock than my '04 200SX with a MX Tech shock). But the new XC-W's transmission ratios, open chamber forks and electric start just don't do it for me. Unfortunately my only choice may be to buy one and substantially modify it to my liking.
racerhansen 12/16/2015 5:24am
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The SX 200 was such a cool bike. I had an ´04 model wich I ran for almost three seasons





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loftyair 12/16/2015 8:51am
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endurox wrote:
KTM should make 175,classic cc. stroke the 150 engine. Then put some Green or Blue plastic on it.
Agreed, 175 and 300.
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Lurk Ing 12/16/2015 11:30am
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mx21 wrote:
The 200SX is an incredibly fun bike to ride. Be awesome to see it back. Here is my 2004 SX updated. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/users/9960/setup_checks/46066/photos/11635/s780_IMG_20150206_165726.jpg?1423849735[/img]
The 200SX is an incredibly fun bike to ride. Be awesome to see it back. Here is my 2004 SX updated.

Lurk Ing wrote:
That's cool. What did it take to change up the body work?
mx21 wrote:
Here is the build thread on it: http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1122952-2004-to-2011-1015-plastic-conversion/ Pretty much the biggest thing was welding a small 2 inch piece of tubing to back of the...
Here is the build thread on it:
http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1122952-2004-to-2011-1015-plastic-conv…

Pretty much the biggest thing was welding a small 2 inch piece of tubing to back of the original mount for the newer subframe to bolt to.
Nice work. did it improve the headshake?
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resetjet 12/16/2015 12:16pm
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I have two. Fun bike to ride......I think it came out at a time when there was some confusion on how the classes will go.

Most classes today are up to a 150, so I 200 would have to run with the 250's correct????

Harescrambles and enduro's still allow 0-200 and therefore they make a bike for it.


thrillbillie91 12/16/2015 12:33pm
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I think some guys would be willing to give up the 50cc for rideability and lightness
And if they're letting 250 2strokes against 250f, this might be the perfect weapon?
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resetjet 12/16/2015 6:26pm
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Nah, no chance against a modern 250F........But so fun to ride.
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MXR 12/16/2015 6:53pm
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Dear KTM , please build a 500 CC two stroke .
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Underground 12/17/2015 10:58am
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resetjet wrote:
Nah, no chance against a modern 250F........But so fun to ride.
I've got one, and I'll argue against that. Maybe not at factory level, but between myself on a 200EXC (or XC/W) with just suspension work, FMF silencer and jetted and a friend on his mildly modded CRF250 it was very even. The gear spacings up top hurt me the most on an MX track.

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