Cooper Webb vs. Sturt Edmonds! Ding Ding!

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h&m_cycle 9/26/2015 6:49pm
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Let's just blame Obama & watch the races in a few hours...
woody woodpecker 9/26/2015 6:50pm
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So basically he doesn't obey the blue flag? And Webb called him out for being a squid. That's my opinion, seems to be a lot of...
So basically he doesn't obey the blue flag? And Webb called him out for being a squid. That's my opinion, seems to be a lot of that going around.
woody woodpecker wrote:
That's no excuse for Webb's behavior. You don't even know if there was a blue flag out when he came up on Stu. He needs to...
That's no excuse for Webb's behavior. You don't even know if there was a blue flag out when he came up on Stu. He needs to learn to respect other riders IMO.
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And you know what happened?? I'm not sure if you know what respect means.
I know what respect is, and it's not ramming your bike into other riders off the track and yelling at them because you couldn't pass them right away.
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woody woodpecker wrote:
That's no excuse for Webb's behavior. You don't even know if there was a blue flag out when he came up on Stu. He needs to...
That's no excuse for Webb's behavior. You don't even know if there was a blue flag out when he came up on Stu. He needs to learn to respect other riders IMO.
disbanded wrote:
And you know what happened?? I'm not sure if you know what respect means.
woody woodpecker wrote:
I know what respect is, and it's not ramming your bike into other riders off the track and yelling at them because you couldn't pass them...
I know what respect is, and it's not ramming your bike into other riders off the track and yelling at them because you couldn't pass them right away.
How do you know he didn't cut Cooper off? Wasn't it a lapper that ruined Simpson's race?
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BSmooth13 9/26/2015 6:57pm
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woody woodpecker wrote:
He acted like one. And it isn't the first time. I like Webb but I think he just needs to chill with the attitude sometimes, that's...
He acted like one. And it isn't the first time. I like Webb but I think he just needs to chill with the attitude sometimes, that's all.
I think that's a far more reasonable opinion - he had an immature reaction - than painting him as an idiot. And, IMO, is one which can be debated in a more reasonable manner.

Once you label a rider or a teams rider an "idiot," the conversation turns from a debate on an incident to a conversation about a person, which leads to this defensive and overly personal back-and-forth we're all becoming accustomed to in Vital.

I can definitely understand an opinion of Coop acting like an idiot, though I disagree (which I hope is allowable around here). With neither side having a full, unpartisan accounting of the facts, I don't deny that such an interpretation is one of the possible realities of what actually happened.

Looking forward to the races tomorrow, I'll stop my ramblings there. Cheers!

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woody woodpecker 9/26/2015 7:04pm
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disbanded wrote:
And you know what happened?? I'm not sure if you know what respect means.
woody woodpecker wrote:
I know what respect is, and it's not ramming your bike into other riders off the track and yelling at them because you couldn't pass them...
I know what respect is, and it's not ramming your bike into other riders off the track and yelling at them because you couldn't pass them right away.
DonM wrote:
How do you know he didn't cut Cooper off? Wasn't it a lapper that ruined Simpson's race?
I don't know exactly what happened on the track, but whatever it was I'm sure it wasn't intentional. And about the Simpson thing, that's what I read on here, but the difference is Simpson probably didn't go and try to start shit with them after the race.
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I'm Irish French American what do I do, ahhhhhh......
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BSmooth13 wrote:
I think that's a far more reasonable opinion - he had an immature reaction - than painting him as an idiot. And, IMO, is one which...
I think that's a far more reasonable opinion - he had an immature reaction - than painting him as an idiot. And, IMO, is one which can be debated in a more reasonable manner.

Once you label a rider or a teams rider an "idiot," the conversation turns from a debate on an incident to a conversation about a person, which leads to this defensive and overly personal back-and-forth we're all becoming accustomed to in Vital.

I can definitely understand an opinion of Coop acting like an idiot, though I disagree (which I hope is allowable around here). With neither side having a full, unpartisan accounting of the facts, I don't deny that such an interpretation is one of the possible realities of what actually happened.

Looking forward to the races tomorrow, I'll stop my ramblings there. Cheers!
To be fair, everyone is just following on from Politicians examples of making things personal.

Wait, is Webb the muslim or Edmonds???
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That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after...
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after the gate drops , he'll never see him again , until Coop puts him a lap down. Gotta try and make a name for yourself while the whole world is watching ya know?
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Or maybe... Webb was about to lap him, Edmonds blocked him a bit, Cooper flew into a temper and threw names at the wrong guy? It...
Or maybe... Webb was about to lap him, Edmonds blocked him a bit, Cooper flew into a temper and threw names at the wrong guy? It seems Cooper has been disrespectful or had problems with a lot of riders lately. Pourcel last year, Bowers in SX, then Musquin, now Edmonds. It's not always the others fault you know.
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this , its not like the guy has a history of this crap !!! buy i guess he is fast ,so he can do want ever...
this , its not like the guy has a history of this crap !!! buy i guess he is fast ,so he can do want ever he want s ,eh Jeffro
Edmonds was getting lapped, get the fuck out of the way.
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I'm Irish French American what do I do, ahhhhhh......
Get drunk and be stoked!!
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jeffro503 wrote:
Sounds like Cooper was probably in the wrong here but i can see why he would be a little upset. You're young , emotions running high...
Sounds like Cooper was probably in the wrong here but i can see why he would be a little upset. You're young , emotions running high , trying to sort himself in the biggest race of his life.....and a guy that's getting lapped doesn't obey the blue flags. I can understand why he may get a little pissed!

100% positive they gave the blue flag when Febre was coming , so common sense says that the guy in 2nd place was coming too! This track and these lappers could ruin a good race. If you can't run the pace get the hell out of the way!
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yes i can blame him for being a jumped up little shit, its not the first time he has thrown a little tantrum this year when...
yes i can blame him for being a jumped up little shit, its not the first time he has thrown a little tantrum this year when he didn't get it all his own way,

and the blue flag does not mean get out of the way, it just warns you that you are about to be lapped, sometimes trying to get out of the way causes more trouble than holding your line,

Isn't "holding your line" (or the lack of) why Cooper was pissed??

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RichardLoots wrote:
lol .... he is a rookie , first big race on a 450 and on a totally new track .... ;) could be noticed as a...
lol .... he is a rookie , first big race on a 450 and on a totally new track .... Wink could be noticed as a novice
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Novice and rookie are two totally different things in this sport. Also, this is his second big race on a 450.
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are you serious ?? gonna debate a ;) ;) placed after my comment ? :woohoo: have a nice day mister serious P.S. Novice (General Sporting Terms)...
are you serious ?? gonna debate a Wink Wink placed after my comment ? Woohoo

have a nice day mister serious

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Novice (General Sporting Terms) a sportsman, who has not won a recognized prize, performed to an established level
Lol... Beating all but one Euro last week isn't an accomplishment... I agree...

Get em Novice!!!
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JMR1976 9/26/2015 8:01pm
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Danster wrote:
I'm Irish French American what do I do, ahhhhhh......
Boarddesign wrote:
Get drunk and be stoked!!
Even at 4am I am tempted to do just that! Then go to bed for a few hours after, then repeat.
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kongols 9/26/2015 8:06pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
So Stu didn't get a flag even a 1/3 way around the track when Febvre lapped him too? And yeah , it's good sportsmanship to let...
So Stu didn't get a flag even a 1/3 way around the track when Febvre lapped him too? And yeah , it's good sportsmanship to let the leaders go! If that guy held up a fellow GP rider you guys would of put his head on a platter.

Like i said. You're getting lapped , get out of the way and don't ruin the race.
Blue flag means hold your line, leaders are coming. No one has to pull over. Example- Latvia got in to A final by 1 point, that`s a difference between 17th and 18th place.
I understand Webb`s frustration, but this is MXDN. Those guy`s out there don`t give a shit about our GP`s vs AMA bullshit, they are there to get their country in to A final.
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4 pages already because 2 riders had some words! this place is amazing!
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jeffro503 wrote:
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after...
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after the gate drops , he'll never see him again , until Coop puts him a lap down. Gotta try and make a name for yourself while the whole world is watching ya know?
Serious question, do you have a life beyond this forum? You're in every thread spewing idiotic crap 24/7. I'm mesmerized that you are even 1% relevant, and people actually take you seriously. You constantly jump to premature conclusions, and you're short minded when It comes to any other country besides the US. Grow the fuck up dude, seriously!!!!
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 8:51pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after...
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after the gate drops , he'll never see him again , until Coop puts him a lap down. Gotta try and make a name for yourself while the whole world is watching ya know?
Seamorbutts wrote:
Serious question, do you have a life beyond this forum? You're in every thread spewing idiotic crap 24/7. I'm mesmerized that you are even 1% relevant...
Serious question, do you have a life beyond this forum? You're in every thread spewing idiotic crap 24/7. I'm mesmerized that you are even 1% relevant, and people actually take you seriously. You constantly jump to premature conclusions, and you're short minded when It comes to any other country besides the US. Grow the fuck up dude, seriously!!!!
Dude , you are my own personal little stalker aren't ya? LMFAO . You sure do seem to find me and make about your only post for one evening , criticizing what I do. I'm not home to often because I have an extremely busy life style. When I'm at home and chilled , I like to come here.
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 8:52pm
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Never mind.
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jeffro503 wrote:
Never mind.
Just ignore it, you really think an anonymous poster will be anything but that ?

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jeffro503 9/26/2015 9:25pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
Never mind.
500guy wrote:
Just ignore it, you really think an anonymous poster will be anything but that ?
This guy has caused a bunch of shit on here Jay. He truly is a stalker of mine. Every other post he makes , it has him coming into a thread and insulting me. It's been happening since he got here , but I guess that's how this board goes. You don't get booted until you attack a mod or something.

And how you doing Jay? Are you getting up early for the moto's?
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500guy 9/26/2015 9:34pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
This guy has caused a bunch of shit on here Jay. He truly is a stalker of mine. Every other post he makes , it has...
This guy has caused a bunch of shit on here Jay. He truly is a stalker of mine. Every other post he makes , it has him coming into a thread and insulting me. It's been happening since he got here , but I guess that's how this board goes. You don't get booted until you attack a mod or something.

And how you doing Jay? Are you getting up early for the moto's?
it's on CBS Sports from 2-5 tomorrow, hopefully I can stay off here long enough to not know what happens.
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 9:38pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
This guy has caused a bunch of shit on here Jay. He truly is a stalker of mine. Every other post he makes , it has...
This guy has caused a bunch of shit on here Jay. He truly is a stalker of mine. Every other post he makes , it has him coming into a thread and insulting me. It's been happening since he got here , but I guess that's how this board goes. You don't get booted until you attack a mod or something.

And how you doing Jay? Are you getting up early for the moto's?
500guy wrote:
it's on CBS Sports from 2-5 tomorrow, hopefully I can stay off here long enough to not know what happens.
I hear ya! I couldn't wait! I'll re-watch them again later after they are recorded if they end up being some good races.
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jeffro503 wrote:
This guy has caused a bunch of shit on here Jay. He truly is a stalker of mine. Every other post he makes , it has...
This guy has caused a bunch of shit on here Jay. He truly is a stalker of mine. Every other post he makes , it has him coming into a thread and insulting me. It's been happening since he got here , but I guess that's how this board goes. You don't get booted until you attack a mod or something.

And how you doing Jay? Are you getting up early for the moto's?
500guy wrote:
it's on CBS Sports from 2-5 tomorrow, hopefully I can stay off here long enough to not know what happens.
Try east coast, I gotta stay off till 5pm..ugh...
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jeffro503 9/26/2015 10:23pm
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To me it was worth the $20.00. For two nights of racing " live " at this event , it's kinda special. I built myself a badass HTPC a couple years ago , so being able to watch it on my big screen in HD ( which this year it's truly a 1080P broadcast ) , is really cool. I lose a little sleep but it's all good.
RichardLoots 9/27/2015 2:32am
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watson wrote:
Novice and rookie are two totally different things in this sport. Also, this is his second big race on a 450.
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are you serious ?? gonna debate a ;) ;) placed after my comment ? :woohoo: have a nice day mister serious P.S. Novice (General Sporting Terms)...
are you serious ?? gonna debate a Wink Wink placed after my comment ? Woohoo

have a nice day mister serious

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Lol... Beating all but one Euro last week isn't an accomplishment... I agree...

Get em Novice!!!
pffffff dont get it he Woohoo Woohoo novice wanker Tongue
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jeffro503 wrote:
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after...
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after the gate drops , he'll never see him again , until Coop puts him a lap down. Gotta try and make a name for yourself while the whole world is watching ya know?
Cock of the year award for that post.
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4 pages of spitting and no video! Thanks for posting it dx3moto.

Cross Prenza, Cross Prenza!

Can't wait for moto 2. Love the des nats.
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jeffro503 9/27/2015 5:24am
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jeffro503 wrote:
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after...
That Irish was mad because coop put him down 7 seconds per lap. He had to come over at yell at Coop now , because after the gate drops , he'll never see him again , until Coop puts him a lap down. Gotta try and make a name for yourself while the whole world is watching ya know?
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Cock of the year award for that post.
Nah. It was a good one compared to what some of the other guys have said. But whatever.
RichardLoots 9/29/2015 11:55pm
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Gatedrop: Just finally, you had a bit of run-in with Stuart Edmonds after the qualifying race, what was that all about?

Webb: Yeah, we just, we didn’t agree on some things! It was no big conflict, I was trying to get his attention and hit his back tyre, obviously that was disrespectful and I should have gone about it in a different way but yeah, we didn’t’ agree on a few things.

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