Sean Collier getting blacklisted?

djdesignsco.mx 9/23/2015 6:39pm
9/23/2015 6:39pm
It is what it is....I try to post stuff and not be fake....whether it is what people want or do not want to hear. sorry if its to much for their precious ears or eyes in this case.

Glad im not the only one who's seen the pussification around this place, and our sport.

I mean really? We speak our minds here and the OWNER has to come on and call people out, call them names, delete comments, ban the person or....or....just straight up LIE.

and thats a "fuggin" fact.

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1. I'm not the owner.
2. I edit stuff all the time. Some of it is so painfully stupid it requires it.
3. I have no idea what you're talking about regarding lies.
4. All of this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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djdesignsco.mx wrote:
id say there is a lot of right, and a lot of wrong in this thread. i just cant believe who some of our "admins" are...
id say there is a lot of right, and a lot of wrong in this thread.

i just cant believe who some of our "admins" are.... I might be way late on this one but since when did the Private Info Poster from Enjoy MFG become an admin? Like really?

I guess it as consistent as our industry is....LOL

But, I did have a stint over at proride until i realized every single person there is from california 909 BRO! so thats what keeps me coming back here.

Even though i know nothing, its still fun to post here over that shitbox
I'm on Proride as well and have met a TON of those guys in person. Have yet to meet a "909 bro." I have met a ton of good people there that have gone out of their way to help me, including a friend that actually let me live at his house in between moving to new places. I do remember your stint there and it was met with ridicule and a bunch of other people ignoring you so I can see why you might be angry.

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GuyB wrote:
1. I'm not the owner. 2. I edit stuff all the time. Some of it is so painfully stupid it requires it. 3. I have no...
1. I'm not the owner.
2. I edit stuff all the time. Some of it is so painfully stupid it requires it.
3. I have no idea what you're talking about regarding lies.
4. All of this has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
Great reply, I can understand you and the other admin are trying to keep this place an intelligent, responsible place that member can go to for reasonable information and discussion.

1. I thought you were the owner. I stand corrected as well.
2. I'm sure you do and need to. Thank you again.
3. This whole thread is confusing as to the "real facts".
4. What was the topic again?
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Cancerman wrote:
Great reply, I can understand you and the other admin are trying to keep this place an intelligent, responsible place that member can go to for...
Great reply, I can understand you and the other admin are trying to keep this place an intelligent, responsible place that member can go to for reasonable information and discussion.

1. I thought you were the owner. I stand corrected as well.
2. I'm sure you do and need to. Thank you again.
3. This whole thread is confusing as to the "real facts".
4. What was the topic again?
Scroll down to the very bottom of the page... There's Vital BMX & Vital Mountain Bike too...
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Well said
Crisp BRAAAP! 9/23/2015 8:18pm
9/23/2015 8:18pm
I don't really get what this backlash is about since the thread isn't in the dumbgeon despite the fact that it should be. Is GuyB/Vital banning this video or stupid thread? It doesn't seem so since it has bounced around the top all week. It makes me long for a Euros versus USA bullshit argument like no other.

I don't disagree with what Collier says but WTF on the reaction here? This belongs in the dumbgeon and the IPs associated with the offenders should get blacklisted until they reset. There...let me pull GuyB's nuts out of my mouth now (also Ridiculous 8th grade logic).

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Xeno 9/23/2015 8:43pm
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If you are as confused as I was about this topic, go to Kyle Cowling's Instagram page. You can read his comments and learn what the "controversy" is about. Here's a sample:

Joachim Falden retweeted
Kyle Cowling ‏@_kylecowling Jul 15
Hey, @falden117, I guess controversy sales. Your episode is on track to be the highest selling episode yet. HAHAHAHA.


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kiwifan 9/23/2015 8:47pm
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Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
I don't really get what this backlash is about since the thread isn't in the dumbgeon despite the fact that it should be. Is GuyB/Vital banning...
I don't really get what this backlash is about since the thread isn't in the dumbgeon despite the fact that it should be. Is GuyB/Vital banning this video or stupid thread? It doesn't seem so since it has bounced around the top all week. It makes me long for a Euros versus USA bullshit argument like no other.

I don't disagree with what Collier says but WTF on the reaction here? This belongs in the dumbgeon and the IPs associated with the offenders should get blacklisted until they reset. There...let me pull GuyB's nuts out of my mouth now (also Ridiculous 8th grade logic).

Most of the storm on here is some vital experts (I am trying to be nice) here making absolutely absurd statements about Sean, about Fasthouse, about FMF and about DC....even though those said people (except Sean) come on here and state the facts people still come up with frigging stupid statements.

The original post for this thread said "I hope this thread doesn't get yarded, let's try to keep it clean and not leave a reason for it to be snuffed. It would only validate the consipracy theorists." ... perhaps thats why its not in dumbgeon?
fastfrankie117 9/23/2015 8:47pm
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Good read. Maybe my first post too. I know the characters in this play and I think they're all pretty rad.

I'm going to get my bike ready to ride now. Peace.
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montesagold wrote:
Well said
Not well said. Actually he didnt say shit. Sean ,either go the whole 9 and call them out , or take a seat. Ill take Elmers and DCs denial over your obfuscation.
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IceMan446 9/23/2015 9:02pm
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Not well said. Actually he didnt say shit. Sean ,either go the whole 9 and call them out , or take a seat. Ill take Elmers...
Not well said. Actually he didnt say shit. Sean ,either go the whole 9 and call them out , or take a seat. Ill take Elmers and DCs denial over your obfuscation.
He doesn't really have to say shit. Most especially to the people on vital.

His episode was done on free will, his sponsors can ask for an explanation but he doesn't owe anyone else one.

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Zracer wrote:
Not well said. Actually he didnt say shit. Sean ,either go the whole 9 and call them out , or take a seat. Ill take Elmers...
Not well said. Actually he didnt say shit. Sean ,either go the whole 9 and call them out , or take a seat. Ill take Elmers and DCs denial over your obfuscation.
Exactly. This reminds me of prayer threads on here and Facebook. "Please say a prayer for 'so and so' (who was in their 20s or 30s and shouldn't be dying of natural causes), ride in piece bro, at least you're not in pain anymore, etc, etc."

BUT THEY NEVER SAY WHAT HAPPENED OR HOW IT HAPPENED (and that's what everybody really wants to know)!

So, will one of you homos name names? Otherwise, why say anything at all?
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IceMan446 9/23/2015 9:14pm
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And the video on JG33 should be out around november/december

Its an hour long which is why its not coming out on the spectrum series.
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GHR 9/23/2015 9:28pm
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It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary series and to the riders who decided enough is enough and are voicing their open and honest opinions I applaud you. As a fan I appreciate the transparency, and to anyone in the industry that is trying to thwart or squash the truth from being seen and heard, you need to take a step back for a second, damn your profitability for once. Even if its not true to YOU it is true to the rider sharing their life experience. Its not the place of an industry mogul to step into someones Bio or Testimony in a media setting, and tell them they are wrong. Who in the Eff gives anyone that right?? To say the comments about Lorettas were so upsetting? Cmon... how about being in that kids shoes, tell him to his face, out loud for all to hear, that his opinions do not matter and see how honorable that sounds to others. This sport is life or death, its is very costly on multiple levels with very little upside for everyone outside the top 20 or many times top 10, it needs CHANGE. The status quo interview is weak sauce and nauseating to say the very least and thank GOD for someone like Kyle with the BALLS to shed some new light and a refreshing viewpoint for a change. I for one support him and this 100% and I have nothing to gain and have never even met Kyle.
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kongols 9/23/2015 9:33pm
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GHR wrote:
It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary...
It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary series and to the riders who decided enough is enough and are voicing their open and honest opinions I applaud you. As a fan I appreciate the transparency, and to anyone in the industry that is trying to thwart or squash the truth from being seen and heard, you need to take a step back for a second, damn your profitability for once. Even if its not true to YOU it is true to the rider sharing their life experience. Its not the place of an industry mogul to step into someones Bio or Testimony in a media setting, and tell them they are wrong. Who in the Eff gives anyone that right?? To say the comments about Lorettas were so upsetting? Cmon... how about being in that kids shoes, tell him to his face, out loud for all to hear, that his opinions do not matter and see how honorable that sounds to others. This sport is life or death, its is very costly on multiple levels with very little upside for everyone outside the top 20 or many times top 10, it needs CHANGE. The status quo interview is weak sauce and nauseating to say the very least and thank GOD for someone like Kyle with the BALLS to shed some new light and a refreshing viewpoint for a change. I for one support him and this 100% and I have nothing to gain and have never even met Kyle.
What a load of bullshit.

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kongols 9/23/2015 9:39pm
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I`m positive a lot of drinking and posting is going on here.
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jeffro503 9/23/2015 9:53pm
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kongols wrote:
I`m positive a lot of drinking and posting is going on here.
Wat you sayin man?
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jeffro503 9/23/2015 9:58pm
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GHR wrote:
It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary...
It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary series and to the riders who decided enough is enough and are voicing their open and honest opinions I applaud you. As a fan I appreciate the transparency, and to anyone in the industry that is trying to thwart or squash the truth from being seen and heard, you need to take a step back for a second, damn your profitability for once. Even if its not true to YOU it is true to the rider sharing their life experience. Its not the place of an industry mogul to step into someones Bio or Testimony in a media setting, and tell them they are wrong. Who in the Eff gives anyone that right?? To say the comments about Lorettas were so upsetting? Cmon... how about being in that kids shoes, tell him to his face, out loud for all to hear, that his opinions do not matter and see how honorable that sounds to others. This sport is life or death, its is very costly on multiple levels with very little upside for everyone outside the top 20 or many times top 10, it needs CHANGE. The status quo interview is weak sauce and nauseating to say the very least and thank GOD for someone like Kyle with the BALLS to shed some new light and a refreshing viewpoint for a change. I for one support him and this 100% and I have nothing to gain and have never even met Kyle.
I haven't watched the whole video yet , but I know what it's about. This is the thing.....it's a very well known fact that we have asshole moto dads around. I've seen a LOT worse in other sports!! Like way freakin' worse!

Now this , if the sponsors didn't kick Sean to the curb ( because nobody has mentioned who did ) , then why are people saying that's what happened? AND.....can someone please list 1 - 2 media outlets in which black listed Elmo's videos? Nobody seems to know those answers either.
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mxjef 9/23/2015 10:00pm
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GHR wrote:
It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary...
It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary series and to the riders who decided enough is enough and are voicing their open and honest opinions I applaud you. As a fan I appreciate the transparency, and to anyone in the industry that is trying to thwart or squash the truth from being seen and heard, you need to take a step back for a second, damn your profitability for once. Even if its not true to YOU it is true to the rider sharing their life experience. Its not the place of an industry mogul to step into someones Bio or Testimony in a media setting, and tell them they are wrong. Who in the Eff gives anyone that right?? To say the comments about Lorettas were so upsetting? Cmon... how about being in that kids shoes, tell him to his face, out loud for all to hear, that his opinions do not matter and see how honorable that sounds to others. This sport is life or death, its is very costly on multiple levels with very little upside for everyone outside the top 20 or many times top 10, it needs CHANGE. The status quo interview is weak sauce and nauseating to say the very least and thank GOD for someone like Kyle with the BALLS to shed some new light and a refreshing viewpoint for a change. I for one support him and this 100% and I have nothing to gain and have never even met Kyle.
jeffro503 wrote:
I haven't watched the whole video yet , but I know what it's about. This is the thing.....it's a very well known fact that we have...
I haven't watched the whole video yet , but I know what it's about. This is the thing.....it's a very well known fact that we have asshole moto dads around. I've seen a LOT worse in other sports!! Like way freakin' worse!

Now this , if the sponsors didn't kick Sean to the curb ( because nobody has mentioned who did ) , then why are people saying that's what happened? AND.....can someone please list 1 - 2 media outlets in which black listed Elmo's videos? Nobody seems to know those answers either.
Go back and read what Knightstick posted.
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I wish the Gasper fam would come on here and clear things up. That would certainly give some perspective on the only bit of info that confirms blacklisting.
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ridge wrote:
Exactly. This reminds me of prayer threads on here and Facebook. "Please say a prayer for 'so and so' (who was in their 20s or 30s...
Exactly. This reminds me of prayer threads on here and Facebook. "Please say a prayer for 'so and so' (who was in their 20s or 30s and shouldn't be dying of natural causes), ride in piece bro, at least you're not in pain anymore, etc, etc."

BUT THEY NEVER SAY WHAT HAPPENED OR HOW IT HAPPENED (and that's what everybody really wants to know)!

So, will one of you homos name names? Otherwise, why say anything at all?
Ridge, our "Social Media" culture is characterized by relationships that are a mile wide and an inch deep (if that).
If people took the time to build actual friendships, maybe they wouldn't post cryptic, desperate requests on FB and message boards.

And in my opinion, getting lost in Baja is a good way to build friendships. Woohoo
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jeffro503 9/23/2015 10:17pm
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GHR wrote:
It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary...
It is very obvious to me who is being transparent and who is trying to cover up a few things....Thanks Kyle for making a phenomenal documentary series and to the riders who decided enough is enough and are voicing their open and honest opinions I applaud you. As a fan I appreciate the transparency, and to anyone in the industry that is trying to thwart or squash the truth from being seen and heard, you need to take a step back for a second, damn your profitability for once. Even if its not true to YOU it is true to the rider sharing their life experience. Its not the place of an industry mogul to step into someones Bio or Testimony in a media setting, and tell them they are wrong. Who in the Eff gives anyone that right?? To say the comments about Lorettas were so upsetting? Cmon... how about being in that kids shoes, tell him to his face, out loud for all to hear, that his opinions do not matter and see how honorable that sounds to others. This sport is life or death, its is very costly on multiple levels with very little upside for everyone outside the top 20 or many times top 10, it needs CHANGE. The status quo interview is weak sauce and nauseating to say the very least and thank GOD for someone like Kyle with the BALLS to shed some new light and a refreshing viewpoint for a change. I for one support him and this 100% and I have nothing to gain and have never even met Kyle.
jeffro503 wrote:
I haven't watched the whole video yet , but I know what it's about. This is the thing.....it's a very well known fact that we have...
I haven't watched the whole video yet , but I know what it's about. This is the thing.....it's a very well known fact that we have asshole moto dads around. I've seen a LOT worse in other sports!! Like way freakin' worse!

Now this , if the sponsors didn't kick Sean to the curb ( because nobody has mentioned who did ) , then why are people saying that's what happened? AND.....can someone please list 1 - 2 media outlets in which black listed Elmo's videos? Nobody seems to know those answers either.
mxjef wrote:
Go back and read what Knightstick posted.
I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on video and the whole industry goes batshit crazy? Please tell me there has to be more to it then that. LL's can be a pain in the ass for folks , big time. But guess what , nobody is forcing anyone to go. There have been big names in this sport that didn't really ever do jack at LL's.

So people think the videos got torn down , because some anon kid said LL's sucked?

I don't know the real reasoning behind it , but I'm having a hard time believing this.
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kongols 9/23/2015 10:24pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on...
I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on video and the whole industry goes batshit crazy? Please tell me there has to be more to it then that. LL's can be a pain in the ass for folks , big time. But guess what , nobody is forcing anyone to go. There have been big names in this sport that didn't really ever do jack at LL's.

So people think the videos got torn down , because some anon kid said LL's sucked?

I don't know the real reasoning behind it , but I'm having a hard time believing this.
This whole thing is publicity stunt. Nothing more, nothing less. Everyone knows sport is expensive, everyone knows some parents are inadequate. It`s bullshit to drag in FMF and DC just to sell more copies of the video. But hey, it`s capitalism. Profit rules.
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jeffro503 9/23/2015 10:30pm
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I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on...
I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on video and the whole industry goes batshit crazy? Please tell me there has to be more to it then that. LL's can be a pain in the ass for folks , big time. But guess what , nobody is forcing anyone to go. There have been big names in this sport that didn't really ever do jack at LL's.

So people think the videos got torn down , because some anon kid said LL's sucked?

I don't know the real reasoning behind it , but I'm having a hard time believing this.
kongols wrote:
This whole thing is publicity stunt. Nothing more, nothing less. Everyone knows sport is expensive, everyone knows some parents are inadequate. It`s bullshit to drag in...
This whole thing is publicity stunt. Nothing more, nothing less. Everyone knows sport is expensive, everyone knows some parents are inadequate. It`s bullshit to drag in FMF and DC just to sell more copies of the video. But hey, it`s capitalism. Profit rules.
They are sure going about it in a very strange way.
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kongols 9/23/2015 10:34pm
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They are sure going about it in a very strange way.
America is a land of innovations.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I haven't watched the whole video yet , but I know what it's about. This is the thing.....it's a very well known fact that we have...
I haven't watched the whole video yet , but I know what it's about. This is the thing.....it's a very well known fact that we have asshole moto dads around. I've seen a LOT worse in other sports!! Like way freakin' worse!

Now this , if the sponsors didn't kick Sean to the curb ( because nobody has mentioned who did ) , then why are people saying that's what happened? AND.....can someone please list 1 - 2 media outlets in which black listed Elmo's videos? Nobody seems to know those answers either.
mxjef wrote:
Go back and read what Knightstick posted.
jeffro503 wrote:
I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on...
I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on video and the whole industry goes batshit crazy? Please tell me there has to be more to it then that. LL's can be a pain in the ass for folks , big time. But guess what , nobody is forcing anyone to go. There have been big names in this sport that didn't really ever do jack at LL's.

So people think the videos got torn down , because some anon kid said LL's sucked?

I don't know the real reasoning behind it , but I'm having a hard time believing this.
I was referring to this... " I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the promo on Vurb and TWMX, and then poof, they were gone."

The above quote was talking about the episode prior being pulled.

TWMX did do a review about the Collier episode...
http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/spectrum-perception-now-availabl…
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jeffro503 9/23/2015 11:29pm
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mxjef wrote:
Go back and read what Knightstick posted.
jeffro503 wrote:
I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on...
I did read that , but honestly that doesn't make much sense to me. Some kid says " LL's sucks " , Elmo gets it on video and the whole industry goes batshit crazy? Please tell me there has to be more to it then that. LL's can be a pain in the ass for folks , big time. But guess what , nobody is forcing anyone to go. There have been big names in this sport that didn't really ever do jack at LL's.

So people think the videos got torn down , because some anon kid said LL's sucked?

I don't know the real reasoning behind it , but I'm having a hard time believing this.
mxjef wrote:
I was referring to this... " I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the promo on Vurb and TWMX, and then poof, they were gone." The above...
I was referring to this... " I'm pretty sure I remember seeing the promo on Vurb and TWMX, and then poof, they were gone."

The above quote was talking about the episode prior being pulled.

TWMX did do a review about the Collier episode...
http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/spectrum-perception-now-availabl…
Ahh i see. But it still doesn't make much sense. What's so offensive in what Sean said that they would take the video down? That's what i don't get.

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