One for the Brits: where is our next world champion coming from?

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Edited Date/Time 8/26/2015 3:09am
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001.

Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has been in superb form over recent months, although winning the championship this year is a long shot, and Herlings should be back beating everyone next year.

In MX1, Simpson is a top 5 guy on his best days, but doesn't at the moment look like he's a genuine title contender. And Searle's MX1 career to date has gone from bad to worse (mainly because of injury). And then Wilson could potentially run up front if he decided to give the GPs a go, and stayed fit.

Of the riders coming through the ranks, Conrad Mewse is a former youth world champion, then there's Sterry, Steven Clarke and Nathan Watson.

What do the people who have a better idea than me think about the prospect of any of them - up and coming or established - becoming a world champion?
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8/23/2015 5:10am Edited Date/Time 8/23/2015 5:10am
I'm not a brit but I don't see Anstie winning a title unless it's this year when he's still in MX2 (so far he has been way to inconsistent to be a contender in the big class)
Do if I had to guess I'd say Mewse

Just my opinion, I don't think I have a better idea then you
8/23/2015 5:21am
I don't see a world champion coming a long any time soon. We don't have a decent structure for building youth programs, the multiple governing bodies are busy bickering with each other and trying to get as much out as possible.

Combine that to the fact most tracks face a constant battle to stay open if they are lucky, the future of British MX isn't to bright.
8/23/2015 2:21pm
Surly100 wrote:
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001. Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has...
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001.

Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has been in superb form over recent months, although winning the championship this year is a long shot, and Herlings should be back beating everyone next year.

In MX1, Simpson is a top 5 guy on his best days, but doesn't at the moment look like he's a genuine title contender. And Searle's MX1 career to date has gone from bad to worse (mainly because of injury). And then Wilson could potentially run up front if he decided to give the GPs a go, and stayed fit.

Of the riders coming through the ranks, Conrad Mewse is a former youth world champion, then there's Sterry, Steven Clarke and Nathan Watson.

What do the people who have a better idea than me think about the prospect of any of them - up and coming or established - becoming a world champion?
The day a brit runs upfront is the day i shit gold
8/23/2015 2:31pm
Surly100 wrote:
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001. Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has...
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001.

Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has been in superb form over recent months, although winning the championship this year is a long shot, and Herlings should be back beating everyone next year.

In MX1, Simpson is a top 5 guy on his best days, but doesn't at the moment look like he's a genuine title contender. And Searle's MX1 career to date has gone from bad to worse (mainly because of injury). And then Wilson could potentially run up front if he decided to give the GPs a go, and stayed fit.

Of the riders coming through the ranks, Conrad Mewse is a former youth world champion, then there's Sterry, Steven Clarke and Nathan Watson.

What do the people who have a better idea than me think about the prospect of any of them - up and coming or established - becoming a world champion?
The day a brit runs upfront is the day i shit gold
The i will be waiting by your toilet. In all seriousness we havent had some decent riders like this for a while. Simpson won the British championship last year and came 7th in the world championship the highest privateer currently sitting in 5th and has inly just been given factory support.
Anstie has had a brilliant year and its very slim that he will win the mx2 this year next year could be the one. Hopefully searle is 100% next year

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8/23/2015 2:36pm
Does Searle even have a ride for next year?
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8/23/2015 2:51pm
Surly100 wrote:
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001. Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has...
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001.

Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has been in superb form over recent months, although winning the championship this year is a long shot, and Herlings should be back beating everyone next year.

In MX1, Simpson is a top 5 guy on his best days, but doesn't at the moment look like he's a genuine title contender. And Searle's MX1 career to date has gone from bad to worse (mainly because of injury). And then Wilson could potentially run up front if he decided to give the GPs a go, and stayed fit.

Of the riders coming through the ranks, Conrad Mewse is a former youth world champion, then there's Sterry, Steven Clarke and Nathan Watson.

What do the people who have a better idea than me think about the prospect of any of them - up and coming or established - becoming a world champion?
You can always make a baby and put him on a bike at 3 years old, sell your home, take out a loan, by tons of bikes and a high dollar trainer and make a world champ of your own?
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8/23/2015 3:09pm
GD2 wrote:
Does Searle even have a ride for next year?
Good question. Does anyone know where he's going?

Gutted to see Searle's career go this way. He was so solid on the 250.

Does anyone have any links to a recent interview with him?
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8/23/2015 3:12pm
Max could still win it this year. He's on a roll, he needs a bit of luck but it's possible. Other than that I don't like our chances. I think Tommy can win races and GP's when 100% but to win a world title in that class will be difficult, he's our best chance though right now.

Nathan Watson has great potential, as does Adam Sterry. I would really like to see Ben Watson get on a really good bike. He's a serious talent.
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8/23/2015 3:13pm
Tommy will have a ride next year. For sure.
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8/23/2015 3:27pm
We have a good crop of new riders, Nathan Watson still has 3 years before he ages out of MX2 , but he's a second season 450 rider , Ben Watson has moved up to MX2 and is still young, Adam Sterry is the same age as Ben and had his secong top 10GP overall today.. Mewse is still young, and has the speed , and they are all where they need to be to progress, Sterry will be an MX2 rider next year, full time , and they all have time on their side.

Nathan Watson has the speed , just needs the belief , and a little bit of a run of good fortune .

Will they ever be world champ.. based on what we knew this time last year , could you ever have see Romain Febrve getting on the podium in MX1 ?? He is one race away from winning the series, and i really think he would have won anyway .

There isnt anyone else coming through that has the speed , not that i have seen, nobody else that stands out right now, which is a shame, but it goes in cycles, maybe someone has the potential , but i i dont see it just yet.
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8/23/2015 3:48pm
Dude just won again today! too bad he pissed some motos away early in the season...that redhead is a beast, but may have run out of time (6 motos left) to rap it up
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8/23/2015 3:49pm
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Dude just won again today! too bad he pissed some motos away early in the season...that redhead is a beast, but may have run out of...
Dude just won again today! too bad he pissed some motos away early in the season...that redhead is a beast, but may have run out of time (6 motos left) to rap it up
All those points they gave away with mechanicals could come back to haunt them
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8/23/2015 3:53pm
Surly100 wrote:
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001. Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has...
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001.

Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has been in superb form over recent months, although winning the championship this year is a long shot, and Herlings should be back beating everyone next year.

In MX1, Simpson is a top 5 guy on his best days, but doesn't at the moment look like he's a genuine title contender. And Searle's MX1 career to date has gone from bad to worse (mainly because of injury). And then Wilson could potentially run up front if he decided to give the GPs a go, and stayed fit.

Of the riders coming through the ranks, Conrad Mewse is a former youth world champion, then there's Sterry, Steven Clarke and Nathan Watson.

What do the people who have a better idea than me think about the prospect of any of them - up and coming or established - becoming a world champion?
It's all in the genes. Your country sent all the best genetics to Van Demons Land. Aussie's ride a bike like they stole it. Go figure.
8/23/2015 4:28pm
dynohut wrote:
Dude just won again today! too bad he pissed some motos away early in the season...that redhead is a beast, but may have run out of...
Dude just won again today! too bad he pissed some motos away early in the season...that redhead is a beast, but may have run out of time (6 motos left) to rap it up
If he goes 1-1 every round now, IMO there's a good chance he could win this thing.

the last few races have been sandy that's why Jonass was strong and Guillod and Seewer have struggled a bit.
But if those 2 get in between Anstie and Gajser/Jonass and then at Glen Helen possibly some Americans... it's far from over.
of course first of all he needs to win the races and try to beat Martin on home soil
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8/23/2015 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 8/23/2015 8:01pm
Putting you guys as no2 in mxdn this year. Shame though as i hate your country
8/23/2015 8:47pm
Jrewing wrote:
Putting you guys as no2 in mxdn this year. Shame though as i hate your country
Rest assured, the feeling's mutual.
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8/24/2015 1:00am
Jrewing wrote:
Putting you guys as no2 in mxdn this year. Shame though as i hate your country
Rest assured, the feeling's mutual.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

I think Ben & Nathan Watson & Sterry have the potential to be GP champions in MX2. IMO they need a solid team, a good result or 2 early on and then to stay injury free and keep the momentum rolling. Not to get settled into finishing out of the top5 and stay there like so many seem to.
8/24/2015 1:24am
Surly100 wrote:
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001. Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has...
Only one title since 1989, and none since 2001.

Searle has been our best hope in recent years,with three 2nd places in MX2. And Anstie has been in superb form over recent months, although winning the championship this year is a long shot, and Herlings should be back beating everyone next year.

In MX1, Simpson is a top 5 guy on his best days, but doesn't at the moment look like he's a genuine title contender. And Searle's MX1 career to date has gone from bad to worse (mainly because of injury). And then Wilson could potentially run up front if he decided to give the GPs a go, and stayed fit.

Of the riders coming through the ranks, Conrad Mewse is a former youth world champion, then there's Sterry, Steven Clarke and Nathan Watson.

What do the people who have a better idea than me think about the prospect of any of them - up and coming or established - becoming a world champion?
Stephen Clarke 'up and coming' ?! he's 26 now! haha

Conrad mewse definitely has a lot of potential, same with both Watson brothers and sterry. World champion? hard to say, but unlikely in my opinion- see how mewse does when he goes in with the big boys! he's been trained by Justin morris, and got a lot of support from ktm- so could be the next top tier rider from the uk


8/24/2015 1:26am
Jrewing wrote:
Putting you guys as no2 in mxdn this year. Shame though as i hate your country
Rest assured, the feeling's mutual.
Jimfunn wrote:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I think Ben & Nathan Watson & Sterry have the potential to be GP champions in MX2. IMO they need a solid...
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

I think Ben & Nathan Watson & Sterry have the potential to be GP champions in MX2. IMO they need a solid team, a good result or 2 early on and then to stay injury free and keep the momentum rolling. Not to get settled into finishing out of the top5 and stay there like so many seem to.
Both the Watson brothers have improved massively over the last 2 years. Definitely got the potential to be something special. Training with Ed Bradley has helped them a lot.
8/24/2015 1:29am
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Max could still win it this year. He's on a roll, he needs a bit of luck but it's possible. Other than that I don't like...
Max could still win it this year. He's on a roll, he needs a bit of luck but it's possible. Other than that I don't like our chances. I think Tommy can win races and GP's when 100% but to win a world title in that class will be difficult, he's our best chance though right now.

Nathan Watson has great potential, as does Adam Sterry. I would really like to see Ben Watson get on a really good bike. He's a serious talent.
anstie is definitely good enough to win a world title. He's had a lot of bad luck with mechanical problems this year (and a couple of dnf/ bad finishes with mistakes) otherwise would be leading the championship comfortably

on the factory husky next year, he will be a force to be reckoned with, unfortunately for him, herlings will be there!!


the title race isn't over yet, all the American riders could do him a massive favour at glen Helen and get inbetween him and jonass/ gaisjer. Long shot, but if he keeps winning races anything could happen
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8/24/2015 4:21am
The day a brit runs upfront is the day i shit gold
You must have been sat on your potty with Diarrhoea since Lommel MXGP when Brits riders dominated and won four out of 5 classes with double moto victories!
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8/24/2015 6:13am
Christopher mills is one to watch moved to gp central year or so ago and has been going really we'll out there so far
Ended up 7 th this year and 10 th in the world junior champs
8/25/2015 9:51am
The day a brit runs upfront is the day i shit gold
robkinuk wrote:
You must have been sat on your potty with Diarrhoea since Lommel MXGP when Brits riders dominated and won four out of 5 classes with double...
You must have been sat on your potty with Diarrhoea since Lommel MXGP when Brits riders dominated and won four out of 5 classes with double moto victories!
thats just thew way it went, i was extremely happy. It wont happen again. Sorry but it wont, and to back up what i said i actually meant consistantly win and become champ.

We here in England have next to no facilities, no backing like America and France/Belgium and this is y we cant compete consistantly at the top. We have people PAYING for rides instead of being paid to ride its pathetic in a lot of ways.
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The day a brit runs upfront is the day i shit gold
robkinuk wrote:
You must have been sat on your potty with Diarrhoea since Lommel MXGP when Brits riders dominated and won four out of 5 classes with double...
You must have been sat on your potty with Diarrhoea since Lommel MXGP when Brits riders dominated and won four out of 5 classes with double moto victories!
thats just thew way it went, i was extremely happy. It wont happen again. Sorry but it wont, and to back up what i said i...
thats just thew way it went, i was extremely happy. It wont happen again. Sorry but it wont, and to back up what i said i actually meant consistantly win and become champ.

We here in England have next to no facilities, no backing like America and France/Belgium and this is y we cant compete consistantly at the top. We have people PAYING for rides instead of being paid to ride its pathetic in a lot of ways.
Backing in Belgium? I guess you have to live here to know that Belgian government doesn't care a single fuck how many training facilities, permits or what so ever we have. Unless we're winning championships and MxoN's, then they are the first in line to get on the pictures with the riders.
8/25/2015 10:20am
DeStouwer wrote:
Backing in Belgium? I guess you have to live here to know that Belgian government doesn't care a single fuck how many training facilities, permits or...
Backing in Belgium? I guess you have to live here to know that Belgian government doesn't care a single fuck how many training facilities, permits or what so ever we have. Unless we're winning championships and MxoN's, then they are the first in line to get on the pictures with the riders.
Atleast it is even recognised at some level of government. Most people still know it as Scrambling over here if they have heard of it at all....
8/25/2015 10:35am
Anstie wil be close to the title this season. Pressure is building up for Gajser and Jonass.
With Mexico and USA coming up, a lot of things can happen.
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8/25/2015 10:36am Edited Date/Time 8/25/2015 10:39am
I've said it before and I'll repeat it here. MX as a sport is a very poor relation to racing bikes on asphalt. And since it's so much easier here to earn a living that way, most top prospects will quit the dirt given the opportunity. Just look at the roll call in BSB, WSBK and MotoGP, most of those started out racing motocross.

I might add that the same is true for Italy and Spain.

So to answer the original question, our next world champion(s) will be Danny Kent, and Johnny Rea.
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8/25/2015 11:09am
GD2 wrote:
Does Searle even have a ride for next year?
Rumour has it, he will ride for Dixon Kawasaki!
8/25/2015 12:15pm
thats just thew way it went, i was extremely happy. It wont happen again. Sorry but it wont, and to back up what i said i...
thats just thew way it went, i was extremely happy. It wont happen again. Sorry but it wont, and to back up what i said i actually meant consistantly win and become champ.

We here in England have next to no facilities, no backing like America and France/Belgium and this is y we cant compete consistantly at the top. We have people PAYING for rides instead of being paid to ride its pathetic in a lot of ways.
If they're genuinely paying for rides it's because they aren't fast enough to get a paid ride - harsh but it really is that simple. And, paying for a ride on a team doesn't automatically mean the rider isn't earning or even paying a penny - that's why they have sponsors.

Daniel and Jamie McCanney, Steve Holcombe, Jonny Walker and Graham Jarvis are all (paid) factory enduro riders - a sport that has way less support and facilities than MX. It's rumoured that another young, fast guy is on his way to world enduro too.

I'm not saying there isn't MX talent in the UK (there is) but there's certainly way too much money being spent on stuff that has little to do with winning races.

In answer to the original question, and as much as I wish it could be Simpson it has to be Anstie.
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8/25/2015 12:20pm
I wouldn't rule out Anstie getting it this year. I can see the pressure getting to Jonass. Gasjer's tough though!

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