No 2010 MX'ers

WORCSRacer
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 7:07am
The days of annual new model year releases is over for MX bikes. For some models its been over for a while anyway but this is a whole new level.

The new business model is "model designation". The reality of the way that the japanese manufacture models via "production runs" and extremely slow sales is going to eliminate annual product releases. Plan for new models releases only as existing offerings sell out. Don't expect a new RMZ or CRF until all the current models are gone and demand warrants the production run. Just because its a new year don't expect new bikes or even BNG. They'll only be building more when we buy the ones they have.

When the factory can make more from a $3500 scooter than $7500 dirt bike.... let's just say the future isn't exactly bright.
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rocrac
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12/4/2008 1:06pm
$8000 dirtbikes WTF did they expect?
ratonmacias
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12/4/2008 1:38pm
just like cars have been for years. a facelift after 3 or 4 years and a remake after 6or 8 years.
Bret
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12/4/2008 1:42pm
Source?

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WORCSRacer
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12/4/2008 1:58pm Edited Date/Time 12/4/2008 2:01pm
Bret wrote:
Source?
What the hell are you thinking? I am your source.


Look I don't know how to say this but... I'm kinda of big deal, people know me.
newmann
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12/4/2008 2:21pm
Bret wrote:
Source?
WORCSRacer wrote:
What the hell are you thinking? I am your source. Look I don't know how to say this but... I'm kinda of big deal, people know...
What the hell are you thinking? I am your source.


Look I don't know how to say this but... I'm kinda of big deal, people know me.
Smile
R-acer
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12/4/2008 2:24pm
Our bikes would retain a little more value if they weren’t obsolete every year.
12/4/2008 2:38pm
Bret wrote:
Source?
WORCSRacer wrote:
What the hell are you thinking? I am your source. Look I don't know how to say this but... I'm kinda of big deal, people know...
What the hell are you thinking? I am your source.


Look I don't know how to say this but... I'm kinda of big deal, people know me.
Everyone knows that Clovis is the home of all the US motorcycle factories.
Camp332
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12/4/2008 2:38pm
"kinda of big deal"

Well got damn!
Moto East Mag
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12/4/2008 3:01pm
...And Christmas is canceled.

forever.

No-- I guess if nobody else has a better bike it don't matter, right?

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12/4/2008 3:12pm
So no EFI for Yamaha mxers for 2010? Blasphemy!!Cool
Sinbad
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12/4/2008 3:20pm
It would make sense, after the big 4 all get efi to stop making a new bike every year like worcs said.
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12/4/2008 3:31pm
twizzler wrote:
So no EFI for Yamaha mxers for 2010? Blasphemy!!Cool
shit, the Yamaha 450 hasnt changed since 2006 so tell us something we dont already know...
WORCSRacer
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12/4/2008 3:35pm
Bret wrote:
Source?
WORCSRacer wrote:
What the hell are you thinking? I am your source. Look I don't know how to say this but... I'm kinda of big deal, people know...
What the hell are you thinking? I am your source.


Look I don't know how to say this but... I'm kinda of big deal, people know me.
Everyone knows that Clovis is the home of all the US motorcycle factories.
as opposed to Alabama...
newmann
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12/4/2008 3:40pm
R-acer wrote:
Our bikes would retain a little more value if they weren’t obsolete every year.
Bikes haven't been obsolete from year to year since 1980. What has changed from 1989 ? 4 strokes, some aluminum frames and some questionable fuel injections. Bold new graphics and revised new rising rate are basically the norm. Things get better, but they damn sure haven't made last years bikes obsolete by a long shot.
12/4/2008 3:45pm
I know I'm beating a dead horse here but this is a new trend that started with 4 strokes. If everyone went back to 2 strokes it would be cheaper and less maintenance. Yes they're harder to ride but at what point do you decide you've had enough?
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12/4/2008 3:48pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 9:24pm
I just bought a mint 05 YZ250 for $2200. the original rear tire is barely even worn. Thank god for sheeple, that's all I can say. Sheeple can persue the maintainence intensive fuel injected thumpers for $8000 and I will just slip by on the inside with my stock, $2200 two stroke.

I love going to open practice days at the local tracks, It is so rewarding to pass guys on bikes with exhaust systems that cost almost as much as my whole bike
user760a
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12/4/2008 3:52pm Edited Date/Time 12/5/2008 5:56am
here is the ratty old outdated thing,I had more fun riding it today than I have had on my 450 in a long time.
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12/4/2008 4:05pm
Different strokes for different folks............I'd much rather be riding my 4 bangers than the 2's. Yes most of us grew up on 2's but now we have a choice of engine design to ride and I prefer my 4s ...... never had any maintenance issues with the 6 i've owned since I switched.
12/4/2008 4:16pm
Different strokes for different folks............I'd much rather be riding my 4 bangers than the 2's. Yes most of us grew up on 2's but now we...
Different strokes for different folks............I'd much rather be riding my 4 bangers than the 2's. Yes most of us grew up on 2's but now we have a choice of engine design to ride and I prefer my 4s ...... never had any maintenance issues with the 6 i've owned since I switched.
So you're lucky enough to have owned 6 bikes in basically 8 years? What happens when you can't afford all the new bikes and you have to ride the 4 stroke for a few years? It's getting harder to justify $8000 every year or 2.
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12/4/2008 4:31pm
I don't know if manufacturers are actually going to do that, but I'm sure they're thinking about it. I can't remember how many '06 CRF450Rs Honda had left over going into '07, but it was a bunch. And you could put 99% of riders on a '06 and an '07 that had the same graphics and they couldn't tell you (1) which one was which and (2) which one was actually better.
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12/4/2008 4:34pm
R-acer wrote:
Our bikes would retain a little more value if they weren’t obsolete every year.
You are so clueless it's comical.


Moto East Mag
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12/4/2008 4:39pm
Has anybody ever known somebody to get a new bike and all of a sudden dramatically get faster?

I've never seen it.

"Ole Billy was a back of the packer until he got that 2009 model...yessiree...now he wins every race!" heh..no way.

My last Vet B race at Budds, the winner was on a YZ125, I finished second on an 05 Rm250, and the guy in third was on a 2007 CRF450.
Randall Everett recently smoked the Pro Sport class at Budds on his dad's YZ250 smoker against some crazy fast kids.
Motodude
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12/4/2008 4:46pm
E bikes. Why not quit building expensive dated technology dirtbikes when theres a major economic downturn and usher in a new one.
12/4/2008 4:57pm
I think it's be great idea to not release a new model every year.
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12/4/2008 6:05pm
WhKnuckle wrote:
I don't know if manufacturers are actually going to do that, but I'm sure they're thinking about it. I can't remember how many '06 CRF450Rs Honda...
I don't know if manufacturers are actually going to do that, but I'm sure they're thinking about it. I can't remember how many '06 CRF450Rs Honda had left over going into '07, but it was a bunch. And you could put 99% of riders on a '06 and an '07 that had the same graphics and they couldn't tell you (1) which one was which and (2) which one was actually better.
I have owned a 05,07 and now an 08 CRF 450 and I swear it's not a nat's ass difference between all 3.
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user760a wrote:
here is the ratty old outdated thing,I had more fun riding it today than I have had on my 450 in a long time.
damn nice bike for 22 hun, huh?
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12/4/2008 6:43pm
Do you think this will benefit companies like KTM..who have smaller runs in productions and can update bikes easier???
alfredo121
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12/4/2008 6:47pm
Tommorow is the NPA AUction for motorcycles in Poway.

There are about 2000 motorcycles listed.........imagine all the repose these days.

I bought a 2007 KXF450 for $1800 last month. A 2007 Aprilia sxv w/ 18 miles also last month.

$8000 for a new bike is too much.
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12/4/2008 6:50pm
So you're lucky enough to have owned 6 bikes in basically 8 years? What happens when you can't afford all the new bikes and you have...
So you're lucky enough to have owned 6 bikes in basically 8 years? What happens when you can't afford all the new bikes and you have to ride the 4 stroke for a few years? It's getting harder to justify $8000 every year or 2.
I wouldn't call it lucky at all. I worked my ass off to afford every one of them and none were bought off the showroom floor. Just browse craigslist and there is an idiot every 5 posts that put 2 rides on his bike a season and parks them the economy right now makes for an unbelievable market for new used bikes for cheap. Look at the YZ250 for 2200, and every single one I paid no more than 4k for any of them all were dam near new i.e. less than a year old you just have to know what you're looking for. Yes all used bikes no problems I never buy new its a colossal waste of money just wait around for someone else to pay too much for the bike that never rides it and "MUST SELL ASAP!"

I used to work at a dealership thats why I don't waste the extra $$$ on new because it is just that ....a waste

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