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Falcon 6/8/2015 4:41pm
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It's a valid comparison. I don't remember Dungey winning a "greatest race of all-time" against someone like Stewart or Villopoto, whereas Bailey did just that against Rick Johnson at Anaheim in 1986, however. I'll give the nod to Bailey for that little extra measure of "get it done."
Craig_Lambrecht 6/8/2015 7:24pm
6/8/2015 7:24pm
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Please. I actually enjoyed watching Bailey. I dont enjoy watching Dungey. Yeah he surely gets the job done, but he is the most 'White bread' flavorless...
Please.

I actually enjoyed watching Bailey.

I dont enjoy watching Dungey.

Yeah he surely gets the job done, but he is the most 'White bread' flavorless unagressive rider to watch.

*zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You should have compared him to Kiedrowski. Another snooze fest champion.

Heal up Tomac, we miss you already.
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As a Dungey fan since 2010, he has given me tons of exciting races and moments to watch. How can a true moto fan call him boring? That's bullshit. Just because he rarely crashes, rarely rides flashy, and rarely gives the press much to talk about, does not mean at all that on track he is boring. I guess if you aren't a fan of his, I can see how his winning all the time can become boring... Dungey has pretty much won almost all the time since 2010. Ya he came in 2nd a bunch of times to RV but he was still winning quite often even then. And RD and RV put on countless epic races against each other in the last 5 years, battling it out in SX and MX. RD won many times straight up over RV.

I think the coolest thing about Dungey, is his ability to pass people while at the same time giving them plenty of room. He doesn't have to force the issue, he knows how to pass using different lines and techniques than the rider in front of him. His fav technique is the cut down pass where he starts his corner before the guy in front of him, and then gets on the gas before the guy in front of him and ends up on the inside of the guy, then drag races the guy to the next corner (and almost always beats him).

and when Dungey is out front, theres almost no stopping him with a clear track. He hardly fades during a main or moto. And as far as top guys are concerned, he has had some of the worst luck in regards to mechanicals. I pin this down to the fact that he has never been on the best bike or team, which makes him even more amazing. He has been on Suzuki and KTm, while Kawasaki and Honda have always been the best bikes and teams. If RD were on a Kawi during the years RV won most of his races, and RV was on a Suzuki / KTM those years, I guarantee you it would have been RD with more wins than RV.

Dungey is going to win a lot more championships and I bet he will be racing for wins and championships for 10 more years. I think in the next 5 years he is going to rack up a TON of wins and championships. You see, he is playing the long game. Very gradually get better and faster year after year. Ride within limits. Stay off the ground. Infact that should be priority number one for all racers. FINISH THE RACE WITHOUT CRASHING. a Small tipover here and there is fine. But no crashes. Its not worth the risk to ride the edge. RV got away with MANY close calls in his prime years, and obviously had his nasty 2010 crash that cost him lots of time. I also bet that crash in particular made him lose some love for moto. Its just not as fun when you have to endure pain and time off like that.

I feel really bad for Eli... But, it could very well turn out exactly like RV. Major injury, and then come back a year later and start cranking out the wins. But you can be assured Dungey will be there to challenge him.
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RDfan wrote:
As a Dungey fan since 2010, he has given me tons of exciting races and moments to watch. How can a true moto fan call him...
As a Dungey fan since 2010, he has given me tons of exciting races and moments to watch. How can a true moto fan call him boring? That's bullshit. Just because he rarely crashes, rarely rides flashy, and rarely gives the press much to talk about, does not mean at all that on track he is boring. I guess if you aren't a fan of his, I can see how his winning all the time can become boring... Dungey has pretty much won almost all the time since 2010. Ya he came in 2nd a bunch of times to RV but he was still winning quite often even then. And RD and RV put on countless epic races against each other in the last 5 years, battling it out in SX and MX. RD won many times straight up over RV.

I think the coolest thing about Dungey, is his ability to pass people while at the same time giving them plenty of room. He doesn't have to force the issue, he knows how to pass using different lines and techniques than the rider in front of him. His fav technique is the cut down pass where he starts his corner before the guy in front of him, and then gets on the gas before the guy in front of him and ends up on the inside of the guy, then drag races the guy to the next corner (and almost always beats him).

and when Dungey is out front, theres almost no stopping him with a clear track. He hardly fades during a main or moto. And as far as top guys are concerned, he has had some of the worst luck in regards to mechanicals. I pin this down to the fact that he has never been on the best bike or team, which makes him even more amazing. He has been on Suzuki and KTm, while Kawasaki and Honda have always been the best bikes and teams. If RD were on a Kawi during the years RV won most of his races, and RV was on a Suzuki / KTM those years, I guarantee you it would have been RD with more wins than RV.

Dungey is going to win a lot more championships and I bet he will be racing for wins and championships for 10 more years. I think in the next 5 years he is going to rack up a TON of wins and championships. You see, he is playing the long game. Very gradually get better and faster year after year. Ride within limits. Stay off the ground. Infact that should be priority number one for all racers. FINISH THE RACE WITHOUT CRASHING. a Small tipover here and there is fine. But no crashes. Its not worth the risk to ride the edge. RV got away with MANY close calls in his prime years, and obviously had his nasty 2010 crash that cost him lots of time. I also bet that crash in particular made him lose some love for moto. Its just not as fun when you have to endure pain and time off like that.

I feel really bad for Eli... But, it could very well turn out exactly like RV. Major injury, and then come back a year later and start cranking out the wins. But you can be assured Dungey will be there to challenge him.
You are so defensive it's hilarious, the part about if RV and RD traded bikes the results would of been different was great.

The part about him being a great passer? Hahaha oh my!

Dunge has no flash and some people call that boring, get over it. No shit he's a bad dude and there's nothing wrong with not having any flash but you have to call a spade a spade.

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I would love to see RD throw some huge whips after he wins. Or on the last lap in SX. Just that one thing would bring him tons more fans.
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sc961 6/9/2015 10:54am
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I'm not big on comparing current and past riders, since everything has changed so much.

Bailey was a great rider. Dungey is a great rider, right along with most all the other names mentioned in this thread.

Hope they can all stay healthy and give the fans outstanding action for the summer season.

Some of the posting habits of our friendly Vital membership leave a lot to be desired..
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Outsider 6/9/2015 11:31am
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RDfan wrote:
As a Dungey fan since 2010, he has given me tons of exciting races and moments to watch. How can a true moto fan call him...
As a Dungey fan since 2010, he has given me tons of exciting races and moments to watch. How can a true moto fan call him boring? That's bullshit. Just because he rarely crashes, rarely rides flashy, and rarely gives the press much to talk about, does not mean at all that on track he is boring. I guess if you aren't a fan of his, I can see how his winning all the time can become boring... Dungey has pretty much won almost all the time since 2010. Ya he came in 2nd a bunch of times to RV but he was still winning quite often even then. And RD and RV put on countless epic races against each other in the last 5 years, battling it out in SX and MX. RD won many times straight up over RV.

I think the coolest thing about Dungey, is his ability to pass people while at the same time giving them plenty of room. He doesn't have to force the issue, he knows how to pass using different lines and techniques than the rider in front of him. His fav technique is the cut down pass where he starts his corner before the guy in front of him, and then gets on the gas before the guy in front of him and ends up on the inside of the guy, then drag races the guy to the next corner (and almost always beats him).

and when Dungey is out front, theres almost no stopping him with a clear track. He hardly fades during a main or moto. And as far as top guys are concerned, he has had some of the worst luck in regards to mechanicals. I pin this down to the fact that he has never been on the best bike or team, which makes him even more amazing. He has been on Suzuki and KTm, while Kawasaki and Honda have always been the best bikes and teams. If RD were on a Kawi during the years RV won most of his races, and RV was on a Suzuki / KTM those years, I guarantee you it would have been RD with more wins than RV.

Dungey is going to win a lot more championships and I bet he will be racing for wins and championships for 10 more years. I think in the next 5 years he is going to rack up a TON of wins and championships. You see, he is playing the long game. Very gradually get better and faster year after year. Ride within limits. Stay off the ground. Infact that should be priority number one for all racers. FINISH THE RACE WITHOUT CRASHING. a Small tipover here and there is fine. But no crashes. Its not worth the risk to ride the edge. RV got away with MANY close calls in his prime years, and obviously had his nasty 2010 crash that cost him lots of time. I also bet that crash in particular made him lose some love for moto. Its just not as fun when you have to endure pain and time off like that.

I feel really bad for Eli... But, it could very well turn out exactly like RV. Major injury, and then come back a year later and start cranking out the wins. But you can be assured Dungey will be there to challenge him.
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RDfan wrote:
As a Dungey fan since 2010, he has given me tons of exciting races and moments to watch. How can a true moto fan call him...
As a Dungey fan since 2010, he has given me tons of exciting races and moments to watch. How can a true moto fan call him boring? That's bullshit. Just because he rarely crashes, rarely rides flashy, and rarely gives the press much to talk about, does not mean at all that on track he is boring. I guess if you aren't a fan of his, I can see how his winning all the time can become boring... Dungey has pretty much won almost all the time since 2010. Ya he came in 2nd a bunch of times to RV but he was still winning quite often even then. And RD and RV put on countless epic races against each other in the last 5 years, battling it out in SX and MX. RD won many times straight up over RV.

I think the coolest thing about Dungey, is his ability to pass people while at the same time giving them plenty of room. He doesn't have to force the issue, he knows how to pass using different lines and techniques than the rider in front of him. His fav technique is the cut down pass where he starts his corner before the guy in front of him, and then gets on the gas before the guy in front of him and ends up on the inside of the guy, then drag races the guy to the next corner (and almost always beats him).

and when Dungey is out front, theres almost no stopping him with a clear track. He hardly fades during a main or moto. And as far as top guys are concerned, he has had some of the worst luck in regards to mechanicals. I pin this down to the fact that he has never been on the best bike or team, which makes him even more amazing. He has been on Suzuki and KTm, while Kawasaki and Honda have always been the best bikes and teams. If RD were on a Kawi during the years RV won most of his races, and RV was on a Suzuki / KTM those years, I guarantee you it would have been RD with more wins than RV.

Dungey is going to win a lot more championships and I bet he will be racing for wins and championships for 10 more years. I think in the next 5 years he is going to rack up a TON of wins and championships. You see, he is playing the long game. Very gradually get better and faster year after year. Ride within limits. Stay off the ground. Infact that should be priority number one for all racers. FINISH THE RACE WITHOUT CRASHING. a Small tipover here and there is fine. But no crashes. Its not worth the risk to ride the edge. RV got away with MANY close calls in his prime years, and obviously had his nasty 2010 crash that cost him lots of time. I also bet that crash in particular made him lose some love for moto. Its just not as fun when you have to endure pain and time off like that.

I feel really bad for Eli... But, it could very well turn out exactly like RV. Major injury, and then come back a year later and start cranking out the wins. But you can be assured Dungey will be there to challenge him.
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wfo4ever 6/9/2015 3:29pm
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Bultaco wrote:
I took a hiatus from MX during the prime Bailey years. While aware of David's amazing smoothness and talents I was not watching him ride. It...
I took a hiatus from MX during the prime Bailey years. While aware of David's amazing smoothness and talents I was not watching him ride. It strikes me that Ryan Dungey is smooth, precise, motivated, and quiet about himself much like David was. Those of you that were paying attention and have seen both, what do you think?
No comparison at all. David Bailey was an amazing rider.
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40Plus_922mx wrote:
I would love to see RD throw some huge whips after he wins. Or on the last lap in SX. Just that one thing would bring...
I would love to see RD throw some huge whips after he wins. Or on the last lap in SX. Just that one thing would bring him tons more fans.
no no no , heel clickies for days young buck Smile
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ROCKNDAWG 6/9/2015 5:26pm
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Being an old dude, I have seen both a decent amount of times. As smooth and fast as Dungey is I think Bailey was a decent amount smoother and just plain prettier on a bike to watch. I think the only guy that had him beat was JMB...who was just unbelievable to watch on a bike. There are a lot of fast guys now, but back when Bailey was king there was a ton of fast guys (O-Show, Glover (another super smooth rider!), Ward, RJ (not so smooth), Hanson, Barnett, Hannah (more like Stewart, and funner to watch) ect ect ect!
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JB479 6/9/2015 11:54pm
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So you guys don't remember 2010 A1 Main event? Maybe you guys should watch it again?
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Bultaco wrote:
I took a hiatus from MX during the prime Bailey years. While aware of David's amazing smoothness and talents I was not watching him ride. It...
I took a hiatus from MX during the prime Bailey years. While aware of David's amazing smoothness and talents I was not watching him ride. It strikes me that Ryan Dungey is smooth, precise, motivated, and quiet about himself much like David was. Those of you that were paying attention and have seen both, what do you think?
wfo4ever wrote:
No comparison at all. David Bailey was an amazing rider.
Dungey is a better rider than Bailey was but I see the similarities in style. Both incredibly smooth, always in control, and deceptively fast.
The Narrator 6/10/2015 4:56am
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No one seemed to mind, Windham's smooth style, but Dungey is flavorless?
Windham podium'd baked. Let's see Dungey pull that off.
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Bultaco 6/10/2015 6:29am
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Thanks for the comments.

I never intended this to be a "Who was better.....". That would be a disservice to either rider.

From the video I've seen of David Bailey and currently watching Ryan...they are both so efficient and smooth, in my mind, the two are very similar. Both are the type of rider that are so smooth, that one starts thinking, "I can ride like that". i.e. so smooth they look almost like they are trail riding. We've all seen guys that are all over the bike, looking like they are going 100 mph while riding to the start gate.

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Paulbeds 6/10/2015 8:32am
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Dungey is just an "How to " motocross book technique when he rides.
He is perfect, smooth , precise and fast.
Never risk beyond his capabilities and always bring the results home.
He is very clever too.

Windham was smooth too, but was not on the level as Dungey.

The smoothest rider of all was Everts, Dungey is right there but a little more aggressive

Mousquin has the style I would kill for too.....
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Tbteam 6/10/2015 10:35am
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From my obviously biased point of view, nobody saw the best DB. It was coming for the '87 season. Never got there.

Anyone, including RJ, that was there, knows this to be true.

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