My 2015 YZ 250 Build

PDiddy241
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Edited Date/Time 8/14/2015 5:21pm
Now that the 2016 Yamaha YZ 250 has been released I can breathe a sigh of relief that I didn’t buy a YZ the year before Yamaha spent some R&D money on making an antiquated design newer.

I had a nice, low-hour Suzuki RM-Z 450 but after getting sucked into Vital MX’s forums and reading about the many and varied horrors of four-stroke-dom I sold it and bought a new YZ 250. This is the third YZ 250 I’ve had (first was a 1999 and second was a 2006) so I knew what I wanted to do to the bike. I also spent endless hours on Vital MX, ThumperTalk (which is ironic of course) and other websites researching the best mods for a YZ 250. I don’t want a YZ 300 (295) and my goal was to spend less than $2,000 on it but ended up spending about $2,500.

Here’s my 2015 Yamaha YZ 250 build… some highlights of the parts:

MOTOR:
Pro Circuit Platinum Pipe (I’m going to try the DEP pipe when I bash this one up. I’d only used FMF pipes on my other YZs and wanted to try the top-end of the PC pipe I’ve heard about.)
Pro Circuit Ti/Carbon Fiber Shorty Silencer (it’s more than two pounds lighter than the stocker and super awesome looking)
Steahly Offroad 7 oz. fly wheel weight (the lightest flywheel Steahly makes for the YZ 250)
Boyesen SuperCooler Kit
RB Designs head mod (after doing a squish-band clearance test; http://rb-designs.com/rb_designs_llc_017.htm) – Ron got my head on Monday and it was in the mail back to me on Wednesday. That’s fast turnaround! This is probably the best “bang for your buck” mod ($92.00 plus shipping to Oregon) and wasn’t very hard to do either.
2009 Yamaha YZ 450F clutch springs (3) – I did this in my ’06 and think it helps with hook up

CONTROLS:
Renthal TwinWall handlebars (998)
RollOn Lightning Quick Turn throttle tube (I love quick turn throttles)
Yamaha GYTR Factory Perch (GYT-5TA38-30-AL; required an older-style lever, some other parts and some grinding to remove the thumb-operated hot start bracket)
Raptor Titanium Xtreme foot pegs (I had those on my Suzuki too – they’re the best)

DRIVE & BRAKE:
Braking W-OPEN over-sized 270 mm brake kit
Ride Engineering Rear Brake Clevis (which I polished)
LightSpeed Carbon Fiber Chain Guide
All Balls black upper chain roller (because the stocker is yellow-orange and ugly)

OTHER STUFF:
Works Connection Radiator Braces
Acerbis Blue Front Number Plate (I bought a UFO front number plate and thought it was poor quality. The Acerbis still doesn’t match the Yamaha blue color quite right but it’s better quality at least.)
Factory Effex Custom Number Plate Graphics

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Some observations about the bike:
- The front number plate bolt was cross threaded and I had to re-tap it
- The air filter was only partially oiled
- The bearings weren’t dry but they all needed to be greased
- There was some carbon build up next to most of the welds on the frame and subframe that I sanded off with a fine sanding foam pad
- The shock spring isn’t titanium anymore – magnets stick to it and it says so on www.yamaha-motor.com – this is a bit of a bummer… “Rear, fully adjustable KYB® shock features a STEEL shock spring and reduced-friction Kashima coating of internals. 12.4 inches of travel, separate adjusters for high- and low-speed compression damping, and a full lock oil rebound system for increased comfort all add up to fantastic rear wheel control and a sweet ride.”
- Yamaha-Motor.com lists the “wet weight*** as 227 lbs for both the 2014 and 2015 models… I’d guess the weight gained by switching back to a steel spring was lost on the lighter plastic…
- Lubing the clutch cable really helped improve the clutch pull and feel (you have to make sure not to over lube the cable though since the cable routes through the side case).
- The Pro Circuit silencer is riveted together top and bottom
- It is amazing how much lighter this bike feels compared to 450s.
- The bike sounds much, much better now than stock

Next steps:
- Core Moto braided front brake line once the stocker goes squishy
- I want a non-aluminum glide plate
- Maybe a VForce reed valve. I call MotoTassinari and they said they have no plans to make a VForce 4 for the YZ 250…

Maybe down the road:
- YZ-F swingarm and the needed parts
- Different offset triple clamps. MXA has said the 25 mm stockers are best but in the latest issue they are using Ride Engineering’s 22 mm offset clamps with the Showa steering dampener… Applied makes a 24 mm offset verison and I rode a YZ with 22.5 clamps once…

PHOTOS:

This is what it looked like stock – Let’s Ride in Idaho is a great dealership:



Here’s some of the black marks next to the welds:





Stock cylinder head:



Doing the squish band test:





Modified cylinder head – Ron at RB Designs said most of the 2015 YZ 250s he’s seen have somewhat lower compression than previous models so he bumped the compression a bit. Still runs on premium pump gas:



Picture of the clutch GYTR clutch perch:



And finished:







Vital MX rules!
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HackMan162
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6/4/2015 11:03am
Nice build. You will love the DEP pipe. Don't bother with a VForce for that bike. The stock one is fine. Weird about the welds. I've not seen that before on any of the YZs I have had.
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6/4/2015 5:51pm
Show us a pic from the rear so we can see the Pro circuit Silencer mounted!

Did you use resin cored solder to measure your squish band?
6/4/2015 6:51pm
Nice bike bud! I put that pc carbon silencer on my 15 ktm, and the 1st ride the dam decal sticker fell off!! Iol
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6/4/2015 8:29pm
Looks like mine actually. Mine's an 06 thought. Soon I'll have the new number plates.

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6/5/2015 4:51am
HackMan162 wrote:
Nice build. You will love the DEP pipe. Don't bother with a VForce for that bike. The stock one is fine. Weird about the welds. I've...
Nice build. You will love the DEP pipe. Don't bother with a VForce for that bike. The stock one is fine. Weird about the welds. I've not seen that before on any of the YZs I have had.
Funny about that; I didn't plan on putting a VForce on mine, but a friend gave me one. It sat on the shelf for two months because I was really happy with the way my bike was running. Then one day, out of boredom I guess, I decided to try it to see what if any improvement it might offer. I was very surprised by the boost in performance. The VF made the power stronger down low and less raspy, it offered a smoother stronger pull to the point where I could carry third where I'd usually have to shift to second. For the way I ride, it was a big improvement.
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6/5/2015 6:52am
How does it compare to the RMZ?
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6/5/2015 7:43am


The bike has about two hours on it now and so far the sticker has stayed on... I hope it lasts!
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mxracer239 wrote:
How does it compare to the RMZ?
The RM-Z was heavier and while RM-Zs do feel light(er) in motion, the weight difference is really apparent when pushing the bike into the truck or lifting it on/off the stand. Overall a 450 is a much faster bike -- the 250 is a bit more responsive but doesn't hook up as well and I have to shift a lot more. At the local track I'd be in third the whole time on the RM-Z -- but on the 250 I'm in 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

The YZ shifts better and the suspension is good but I think the RM-Z turned better...
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6/5/2015 7:53am
HackMan162 wrote:
Nice build. You will love the DEP pipe. Don't bother with a VForce for that bike. The stock one is fine. Weird about the welds. I've...
Nice build. You will love the DEP pipe. Don't bother with a VForce for that bike. The stock one is fine. Weird about the welds. I've not seen that before on any of the YZs I have had.
hellion wrote:
Funny about that; I didn't plan on putting a VForce on mine, but a friend gave me one. It sat on the shelf for two months...
Funny about that; I didn't plan on putting a VForce on mine, but a friend gave me one. It sat on the shelf for two months because I was really happy with the way my bike was running. Then one day, out of boredom I guess, I decided to try it to see what if any improvement it might offer. I was very surprised by the boost in performance. The VF made the power stronger down low and less raspy, it offered a smoother stronger pull to the point where I could carry third where I'd usually have to shift to second. For the way I ride, it was a big improvement.
I've heard all sorts of stuff about the VForce -- most of the magazines are really positive but some of rider comments are all over the place... Thanks for the feedback!
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6/5/2015 8:04am
Slosh 112 wrote:
Show us a pic from the rear so we can see the Pro circuit Silencer mounted! Did you use resin cored solder to measure your squish...
Show us a pic from the rear so we can see the Pro circuit Silencer mounted!

Did you use resin cored solder to measure your squish band?
Here's the solder I used from NAPA Auto Parts... I double checked with Ron at RB Designs to make sure this one was OK and he said it was. This was the first time I'd ever measured squish and I really didn't want to mess up a brand-new engine!





Since I didn't ride the bike at all between stock from the dealership and finished with the pipe, silencer and head mods I can't say what made the difference exactly but the bike sounds and runs so much better now than it did.
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WileCyot wrote:
Looks like mine actually. Mine's an 06 thought. Soon I'll have the new number plates.
One of the best (and worst) things about these YZs is that they have been about the same for a decade.

Here's my 2006 which wasn't that different of a bike... and the old-style plastic makes me a bit nostalgic



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6/5/2015 8:34am
Have u raced the yz yet?
PDiddy241
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Not yet -- but planning on racing it 06/20
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6/5/2015 9:52am
I bet u will like the smoker when u get used to racing it, your wallet will def like it when its time for a rebuild.
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6/5/2015 10:46am
Very Sharp bike! And that's coming from a guy with an '06 CR 250!
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6/5/2015 11:08am
HackMan162 wrote:
Nice build. You will love the DEP pipe. Don't bother with a VForce for that bike. The stock one is fine. Weird about the welds. I've...
Nice build. You will love the DEP pipe. Don't bother with a VForce for that bike. The stock one is fine. Weird about the welds. I've not seen that before on any of the YZs I have had.
hellion wrote:
Funny about that; I didn't plan on putting a VForce on mine, but a friend gave me one. It sat on the shelf for two months...
Funny about that; I didn't plan on putting a VForce on mine, but a friend gave me one. It sat on the shelf for two months because I was really happy with the way my bike was running. Then one day, out of boredom I guess, I decided to try it to see what if any improvement it might offer. I was very surprised by the boost in performance. The VF made the power stronger down low and less raspy, it offered a smoother stronger pull to the point where I could carry third where I'd usually have to shift to second. For the way I ride, it was a big improvement.
Interesting. You are about the first guy I have heard that had that experience. Were your stock reeds toast, such that the new block refreshed? Did you run it with the stock spacer in or out?
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Nice smoker, hope you got the vital backgrounds free or they pay youGrinning
PDiddy241
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mxb2 wrote:
Nice smoker, hope you got the vital backgrounds free or they pay youGrinning
GuyB is giving out t-shirts to everyone who runs Vital MX logos, right?!

Vital MX gets the front number plate real estate because every time I get passed and roosted by a 450 I'll remember that the Vitards made me do it
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mxb2 wrote:
Nice smoker, hope you got the vital backgrounds free or they pay youGrinning
PDiddy241 wrote:
GuyB is giving out t-shirts to everyone who runs Vital MX logos, right?! Vital MX gets the front number plate real estate because every time I...
GuyB is giving out t-shirts to everyone who runs Vital MX logos, right?!

Vital MX gets the front number plate real estate because every time I get passed and roosted by a 450 I'll remember that the Vitards made me do it
haha nice
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6/5/2015 2:01pm
Another thing...this pic is a great pic that proves that stock YZs are prone to detonation on pump gas. A lot of ignorant people dont believe that.

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6/5/2015 3:16pm
Man that carbon silencer is super sexy
6/6/2015 1:55am
Wow, the bike looks so awesome. It makes me much interest to ride.
6/7/2015 1:31pm
HackMan162 wrote:
Interesting. You are about the first guy I have heard that had that experience. Were your stock reeds toast, such that the new block refreshed? Did...
Interesting. You are about the first guy I have heard that had that experience. Were your stock reeds toast, such that the new block refreshed? Did you run it with the stock spacer in or out?
Here's another guy that is very happy with his v-force reed set. YZ 250 here as well. Noticeable difference in mid-range power for sure.
6/8/2015 1:49am
Can i know, the bike released in all countries and what about the availability of spares?
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divyakumar wrote:
Can i know, the bike released in all countries and what about the availability of spares?
You need to ask Yamaha sir.
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Here’s what I’ve learned about my 2015 YZ 250:

- TwinWall handlebars: They’re gone and thank goodness! I had a pair of TwinWalls on my RM-Z but those were in RG3’s rubber-mounted clamps… a two-stroke YZ vibrates more and the bars are solid mounted. My hands were going numb and hurt with the TwinWalls. I put the stock bars back on but may buy a pair of the Twisted Engineering bars… TE’s bars showed up in a Dirt Bike review recently and the review was favorable and Dirt Bike even mentioned Vital MX’s forums in the review…
- Sliding the forks up 5 mm helped the bike turn and handle the way I wanted it. I’d tried 3 mm up and the extra 2 mms made a very notable and positive difference. I’ve seen 5 mms up in some other posts in the forums and I agree.
- The MX52s aren’t bad tires but both the front and rear seem to be wearing pretty quickly (more so than the Pirellis I normally use)
- Tank/Shroud graphics are showing signs of wear pretty quickly which I expected.
- 14/50 gearing (stock): I used 14/51 on my 2006 YZ 250 (that I bought trashed and restored in 2010) per MXA but I like the stock 14/50 gearing better. I can still pull third in most corners like a 450 but each gear seems to stretch out a little more (and it could just be that this bike runs better than my ’06 or the FWW which I didn’t have on my ’06).
- I prefer the stock Yamaha suspension to the RG3 Diamond (“B”) kit stuff I had on my RM-Z
- A four-stroke will shoot out a muffler plug a lot easier/quicker/farther than a two-stroke after you’ve cleaned the bike and try to start the bike without removing the plug

Favorite mods/parts on this bike (in order):
1- RB Designs head mod
2- RollOn Lightning Quick Turn throttle tube
3- Steahly Offroad 7 oz. fly wheel weight
4- Pro Circuit Ti/Carbon Fiber Shorty Silencer (it’s super awesome looking and now this bike sounds sweet – the stock sound wasn’t)
5- Raptor Titanium Xtreme foot pegs

What’s next:
- Still looking for a non-aluminum glide plate (carbon fiber or plastic and NOT a burly off-road skid plate)
- I have a Core Moto braided front brake line to install sometime

What I wish Yamaha would do:
- Put the new, oversized rotor on the two-stokes
- New-style swingarm/linkage/rear hub/etc.
- An updated gas tank / radiator shroud set up
- Rubber mounted bar mounts
8/11/2015 5:46pm
PDiddy241 wrote:
One of the best (and worst) things about these YZs is that they have been about the same for a decade. Here's my 2006 which wasn't...
One of the best (and worst) things about these YZs is that they have been about the same for a decade.

Here's my 2006 which wasn't that different of a bike... and the old-style plastic makes me a bit nostalgic



Nice clean 06, Mate! I have one myself and love the old school look with original plastics, however I am very tempted to make the upgrade using the new Racetech restyle kit that just came out:

http://store.rtechmx.com/plastiche-replica/replica-yamaha-1/kit-plastic…
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8/11/2015 11:02pm
Damn it! This thread is making me have second thoughts on a damn 4 stroke 250F! I love my 06' RM 250 and want to get something new in the stable and this bike is giving me second thoughts. Damn nice bike Pdiddy!
PDiddy241
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8/12/2015 2:42pm
Thanks jeffro! I have zero regrets about selling my cherry, low-hour RM-Z 450 and getting another YZ 250 two-stroke.
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8/12/2015 3:50pm
Might want to change to a forged piston. 1st hand knowledge of 15's shattering the piston under 6hr's from new. I just bought a damaged 15' cylinder, had 2 hr's on it. Kid got new bike to race LL and had a few rides on it dialing it in.

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