Anyone have crazy hospital experiences? called me a junkie.lol

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I agree starcrossed , redrider and Georgie Porgie you all do a job I could never do in a million years
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5/25/2015 4:44pm Edited Date/Time 5/25/2015 4:45pm
No really good stories, but I enjoy when people try to lie to me, and all I have to do is give Narcan to know the truth for sure... That's the most used drug in my bag on any given day.
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5/25/2015 4:53pm
Irresponsible prescribing that could have killed you. Patches are no joke and are not indicated for acute pain. Should have never given you those in the first place and you shouldn't have abused them either.
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Irresponsible prescribing that could have killed you. Patches are no joke and are not indicated for acute pain. Should have never given you those in the...
Irresponsible prescribing that could have killed you. Patches are no joke and are not indicated for acute pain. Should have never given you those in the first place and you shouldn't have abused them either.
How did I abuse them again? I did what I was told. Thank you. I still have 99% of every bit of pain pills I have ever been prescribed plus the six patches. I hate those things. I have seen what happens when people abuse them and dealing with it now with a family member. My wife's mother ate those things her whole life and has been out of touch for as long as I can remember. She quit cold turkey and has lost her marbles and needs 24/7 care. It costs me more in one year than most people will see in thier lifetime. I am a lot smarter than that and never wanted to be like that in any way.

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The second time I broke my back, I went in to see a specialized spine doc. "Hi, I broke my back."
The Dr. didn't believe me. I must appear to tolerate pain very well. He sent me home on a course of steroids.
One week later, things were still feeling 'crunchy', so I went in for a follow up. I sat in the waiting room forever. I asked what was taking so long, and waited some more. The receptionist finally said the Dr cannot see me, and wouln't give any more info and sent me home.
Over the next week, Dr finally returned my phone calls, and said point blank, "We cannot treat you because of your past medication history. Click".

WTF! What past history!? Drugs? I don't even take tylenol!

I went to see another doc, who sent me for xrays right away, which revealed a 40% compression fracture of T6 vertebrae.
I knew I felt shorter.

By this time almost 3 weeks had passed and the pain was starting to get better. I vowed to get revenge on that quack doctor, but what recourse would I have had? I guess only to spread my PSA: Stay away from Mark J. Rubin in Phoenix.
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MX45 wrote:
The second time I broke my back, I went in to see a specialized spine doc. "Hi, I broke my back." The Dr. didn't believe me...
The second time I broke my back, I went in to see a specialized spine doc. "Hi, I broke my back."
The Dr. didn't believe me. I must appear to tolerate pain very well. He sent me home on a course of steroids.
One week later, things were still feeling 'crunchy', so I went in for a follow up. I sat in the waiting room forever. I asked what was taking so long, and waited some more. The receptionist finally said the Dr cannot see me, and wouln't give any more info and sent me home.
Over the next week, Dr finally returned my phone calls, and said point blank, "We cannot treat you because of your past medication history. Click".

WTF! What past history!? Drugs? I don't even take tylenol!

I went to see another doc, who sent me for xrays right away, which revealed a 40% compression fracture of T6 vertebrae.
I knew I felt shorter.

By this time almost 3 weeks had passed and the pain was starting to get better. I vowed to get revenge on that quack doctor, but what recourse would I have had? I guess only to spread my PSA: Stay away from Mark J. Rubin in Phoenix.
I hear you man. I am Gatorade and water and to much milk. Milk is my worst vice. I will freak out if someone accuses me of that stupidity. I didn't get to where I am now by being an idiot. Lol
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Off topic, but on average how much does a hopsital visit cost you American guys?
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I got a beaver shot once in the recovery room after surgery! I was just coming out of anesthesia / waking up. There was a gal next to me, that was kicking her blanket off acting all crazy while she was coming out herself! WOOAH ....was not expecting that!
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You know what, while I'm at it I want to list a few major medical fuck ups I've personally experienced.

1) Ortho Dr tried to tighten an external fixator using the box end of a socket
2) Trauma doc punctured my esophagus with the NG tube
3) Anesthesiologist(?) forgot to turn on the oxygen in OR
4) Lack of care when I was in a coma gave me a gnarly pressure sore I had to deal with for a full year

And for the grand finale (ok, this is is just plain bad luck)
5) My neurosugeon, on the day I was to be discharged from the hospital was killed in a plane crash while returning from an SCI conference.

Needless to say, I don't have much confidence while in the care of medical workers. I've learned you have to be your own medical advocate and if something ain't right, speak up. Dr's and nurses are there for you. Everyone has a bad day once in a while, but when your health and life is in their hands that shit don't fly with me.

Thank you to all of you med peeps who are exceptional at your job. I know you have to deal with a lot of crazies. I just want to point out it can go both ways.
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fanger wrote:
Off topic, but on average how much does a hopsital visit cost you American guys?
$5000 minimum on average if xrays, mri and bloodwork are done.
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0 If admitted . 100 if ER visit. Insurance comes in handy.
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Zracer wrote:
0 If admitted . 100 if ER visit. Insurance comes in handy.
Yes it does and is a must with our system. I am battling with how much they cover for my in law. It's a little complicated when it is a mental disorder.
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5/25/2015 5:37pm Edited Date/Time 5/25/2015 5:56pm
FLmxer wrote:
How did I abuse them again? I did what I was told. Thank you. I still have 99% of every bit of pain pills I have...
How did I abuse them again? I did what I was told. Thank you. I still have 99% of every bit of pain pills I have ever been prescribed plus the six patches. I hate those things. I have seen what happens when people abuse them and dealing with it now with a family member. My wife's mother ate those things her whole life and has been out of touch for as long as I can remember. She quit cold turkey and has lost her marbles and needs 24/7 care. It costs me more in one year than most people will see in thier lifetime. I am a lot smarter than that and never wanted to be like that in any way.
You did admit to putting 2 fentanyl patches right near your heart whether that was a typo I don't know and the fact that fentanyl patches are more for PTs with chronic pain... But that probably wasn't the best idea from your friend... You live, ya learn, and I'm sure you won't forget this experience anytime soon. I ain't mad at ya you were in pain...
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Nothing as bad as the people with back Injuries, in 07 I broke my foot riding and I was waiting for my splint til I could see the surgeon the next day,not really super worried about it until the nurse who told me her family trail rides 4 wheelers kept bringing other nurses in to show them my swollen deformed looking foot. That's when I figured it might be more then a simple cast when the hospital staff was intrigued with the injury.
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fanger wrote:
Off topic, but on average how much does a hopsital visit cost you American guys?
FLmxer wrote:
$5000 minimum on average if xrays, mri and bloodwork are done.
That's insane, I don't have any sort of health insurance and it cost me nothing when I broke my back. Even got a cheque from the government each week because I couldn't work while I was injured.
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5/25/2015 5:50pm Edited Date/Time 5/25/2015 6:00pm
FLmxer wrote:
How did I abuse them again? I did what I was told. Thank you. I still have 99% of every bit of pain pills I have...
How did I abuse them again? I did what I was told. Thank you. I still have 99% of every bit of pain pills I have ever been prescribed plus the six patches. I hate those things. I have seen what happens when people abuse them and dealing with it now with a family member. My wife's mother ate those things her whole life and has been out of touch for as long as I can remember. She quit cold turkey and has lost her marbles and needs 24/7 care. It costs me more in one year than most people will see in thier lifetime. I am a lot smarter than that and never wanted to be like that in any way.
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You did admit to putting 2 fentanyl patches right near your heart whether that was a typo I don't know and the fact that fentanyl patches...
You did admit to putting 2 fentanyl patches right near your heart whether that was a typo I don't know and the fact that fentanyl patches are more for PTs with chronic pain... But that probably wasn't the best idea from your friend... You live, ya learn, and I'm sure you won't forget this experience anytime soon. I ain't mad at ya you were in pain...
Admit? The doctor who happened to be a friend told me to. Actually his staff. How is that me abusing it? I am not a doctor. I followed directions, right or wrong. I always wanted to share this experience with you guys but now I feel like this is not the responses I expected. Lol The doctor who helped me is in one of the top spine institutes out there so I think he knows a thing or two.
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MX45 wrote:
The second time I broke my back, I went in to see a specialized spine doc. "Hi, I broke my back." The Dr. didn't believe me...
The second time I broke my back, I went in to see a specialized spine doc. "Hi, I broke my back."
The Dr. didn't believe me. I must appear to tolerate pain very well. He sent me home on a course of steroids.
One week later, things were still feeling 'crunchy', so I went in for a follow up. I sat in the waiting room forever. I asked what was taking so long, and waited some more. The receptionist finally said the Dr cannot see me, and wouln't give any more info and sent me home.
Over the next week, Dr finally returned my phone calls, and said point blank, "We cannot treat you because of your past medication history. Click".

WTF! What past history!? Drugs? I don't even take tylenol!

I went to see another doc, who sent me for xrays right away, which revealed a 40% compression fracture of T6 vertebrae.
I knew I felt shorter.

By this time almost 3 weeks had passed and the pain was starting to get better. I vowed to get revenge on that quack doctor, but what recourse would I have had? I guess only to spread my PSA: Stay away from Mark J. Rubin in Phoenix.
I got one better than that , I felt something pop in my back went to 3 orthos and all they did was read the MRI report that came with the films I sent , finally a year latter after being told all I have is a bulging disc I went to a neurosurgeon he took my films and put them under the light and started circling stuff and asked him if he wants the report , he said no you can throw that in the trash I found your problem your bulging disc is all that's left the rest is in the 20 plus peaces I have circled , got surgery and felt great the minute I woke up from surgery it's been 10 plus years , I wish the web was popular back then because now they can't hide if there is a pattern on there reviews
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5/25/2015 6:07pm
fanger wrote:
Off topic, but on average how much does a hopsital visit cost you American guys?
FLmxer wrote:
$5000 minimum on average if xrays, mri and bloodwork are done.
fanger wrote:
That's insane, I don't have any sort of health insurance and it cost me nothing when I broke my back. Even got a cheque from the...
That's insane, I don't have any sort of health insurance and it cost me nothing when I broke my back. Even got a cheque from the government each week because I couldn't work while I was injured.
Here, we do all we can to avoid having the government hand in any aspect of our life. As for our health system, doctors, hospitals and insurance companies painted themselves in a corner making us dependent on health insurance to afford healthcare. It wasnt that long ago the majority of americans could afford healthcare out of pocket. Healthcare was a perk to entice better employees. Now, everyone has to have health insurance. Thanks to Obama, now we get taxed for not having it. Good ole government.... No thanks bro. I dont want any part of government "help"
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2000, maybe 2001 I went over the bars at speed.
Out cold for a few minutes they told me.
Memory, took years to get most of it back.
Lower back, never was right after that.
2010, was flipping on the floor after work every night from the back thing.
Tried a chiropractor and almost got paralyzed.
Finally went to a General Practice doctor, who examined me and offered therapy or surgery.
Wanted to try therapy first, I kinda said okay, but was having a hard time walking, and asked if he had anything
That would help me with my work. I have bills to pay.
Asked me what I wanted, and being a child of the 60s, told him straight up what worked for me.
That Valium was my drug of choice, most of the others kinda made me feel sick.

He told me to get the hell out of his office lol.

We argued, told me after a bit tough cookies until I got a 2,500 dollar MRI.

After the MRI came back with a crushed l4, he called me and said "sorry about that, you can have anything you want."

Memorial Day, 5 years ago, they pulled 2 medium sized shrimp out of me, and I got a second chance.

I still call him every now and then, just to mess with him, "comon doc, I know you got some samples laying around".........
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FLmxer wrote:
Admit? The doctor who happened to be a friend told me to. Actually his staff. How is that me abusing it? I am not a doctor...
Admit? The doctor who happened to be a friend told me to. Actually his staff. How is that me abusing it? I am not a doctor. I followed directions, right or wrong. I always wanted to share this experience with you guys but now I feel like this is not the responses I expected. Lol The doctor who helped me is in one of the top spine institutes out there so I think he knows a thing or two.
Lol I'm not against you here, just helping you understand why MDMCG probably came to that assumption (ass-u-me, guess I deserved it for speaking about it) Wink from the little information you gave about the incident. I didn't mean to de rail your thread my bad bud, glad it all turned out good, sure was a wild ride...
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FLmxer wrote:
Admit? The doctor who happened to be a friend told me to. Actually his staff. How is that me abusing it? I am not a doctor...
Admit? The doctor who happened to be a friend told me to. Actually his staff. How is that me abusing it? I am not a doctor. I followed directions, right or wrong. I always wanted to share this experience with you guys but now I feel like this is not the responses I expected. Lol The doctor who helped me is in one of the top spine institutes out there so I think he knows a thing or two.
450crf_732 wrote:
Lol I'm not against you here, just helping you understand why MDMCG probably came to that assumption (ass-u-me, guess I deserved it for speaking about it)...
Lol I'm not against you here, just helping you understand why MDMCG probably came to that assumption (ass-u-me, guess I deserved it for speaking about it) Wink from the little information you gave about the incident. I didn't mean to de rail your thread my bad bud, glad it all turned out good, sure was a wild ride...
Me too. I had to rewrite a few parts to be more clear. I apologize if I sounded like a jerk at all. I see I was misleading as I wrote it pretty fast and it came off wrong in a few areas. You seem like a good guy. Thanks for your response.
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Crazy story...I'm a nurse too, when do u find three nurses chatting on an mx website? Only Vital, baby. Oh, get well soon OP, sounds like...
Crazy story...I'm a nurse too, when do u find three nurses chatting on an mx website? Only Vital, baby. Oh, get well soon OP, sounds like you've some issues to deal with. I wish you the best.
Make that 4 nurses (I'm one as well)! I will never accuse anyone of being a junkie but most of the time they are quite apparent. I really hate dealing with sickle cell patients looking for a fix. There is a lab to tell if they are in a true crisis (retic count) but if they come in enough sooner or later someone in the ER will admit them. These folks have been talking pain meds since they were kids so they can handle a shit load of pain meds. They also know you can call the doc for more and will tell you to. Now a true sickle cell crises is very painful for the patient.
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MX45 wrote:
You know what, while I'm at it I want to list a few major medical fuck ups I've personally experienced. 1) Ortho Dr tried to tighten...
You know what, while I'm at it I want to list a few major medical fuck ups I've personally experienced.

1) Ortho Dr tried to tighten an external fixator using the box end of a socket
2) Trauma doc punctured my esophagus with the NG tube
3) Anesthesiologist(?) forgot to turn on the oxygen in OR
4) Lack of care when I was in a coma gave me a gnarly pressure sore I had to deal with for a full year

And for the grand finale (ok, this is is just plain bad luck)
5) My neurosugeon, on the day I was to be discharged from the hospital was killed in a plane crash while returning from an SCI conference.

Needless to say, I don't have much confidence while in the care of medical workers. I've learned you have to be your own medical advocate and if something ain't right, speak up. Dr's and nurses are there for you. Everyone has a bad day once in a while, but when your health and life is in their hands that shit don't fly with me.

Thank you to all of you med peeps who are exceptional at your job. I know you have to deal with a lot of crazies. I just want to point out it can go both ways.
Number one doesn't surprise me at all. lol
Number two, I've put down at least 100 and never have done that nor seen it done.
Number three. don't have an answer or comment for that one.
Number four, this happens a lot. It doesn't take long to get a hell of a sore if decent care isn't given to turn/reposition a patient on a timely basis (usually every 2 hours is standard). I'm sorry you had such shitty care.
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I cased a huge table to single and broke my back really bad awhile ago. I fractured my L 3 horizontal only a few mm from...
I cased a huge table to single and broke my back really bad awhile ago. I fractured my L 3 horizontal only a few mm from all the way and broke off a huge chunk of bone that lodged into a nerve. I also burst two discs and bulged two. I was laying on the track paralyzed, no feeling in my legs on a blind landing. Pee was coming out as I bear crawled to the side. I felt the feeling come back and was able to get helped up. I told a guy I could not even try and start my bike so he did and I got on and actually rode a wheelie on way to the trailer. I pulled in and couldn't get off and needed help. My buddy drove home. I went to doctor and we did tests and he gave me an injection. He knew I did not like pain meds but he wrote me two scripts and he gave me two boxes of 5 Fentanyl patches and put two on my arm. We got the scripts filled of pain pills and I ate a few. That night I was hurting so bad it was incredible. The doctor suggests I remove the fentanyl patches from arm and put two near my heart. In the morning I'm on the floor in and out of consciousness and my mom comes by and calls ambulance. At the hospital I get wheeled into the hall way and left there. I'm in fetal position and throwing up on a cart in hallway. I notice the nurse holding the two fentinol boxes that are held together by the script for ten, five in each box but I had used four. She comes over and says, "we all know your not hurt, you just want pain meds. You got these yesterday and nine are gone" I couldn't even speak and it was like I was in a nightmare. She was accusing me of being a addict and I don't even drink. Well my mom points out that there is five in one box and one in the other and why and then she gives the lady my two FULL pain pill bottles and says, "what kind of junkie brings all his pain meds in and hasn't even taken hardly any?" Right then the nurse said OMG we are so sorry. They instantly wheel me in a private room and hook me up to the delaudid drip and the pain subsides. The surgeon said I should have never been able to take one step. Surgery was a complete success.
What surgery did you have?
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I agree starcrossed , redrider and Georgie Porgie you all do a job I could never do in a million years
I think DrMarkR and DocBodnar would agree that ER nurses are the most dedicated, hardest working, and under appreciated species on the planet! Thanks for your dedication.
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FLmxer wrote:
I cased a huge table to single and broke my back really bad awhile ago. I fractured my L 3 horizontal only a few mm from...
I cased a huge table to single and broke my back really bad awhile ago. I fractured my L 3 horizontal only a few mm from all the way and broke off a huge chunk of bone that lodged into a nerve. I also burst two discs and bulged two. I was laying on the track paralyzed, no feeling in my legs on a blind landing. Pee was coming out as I bear crawled to the side. I felt the feeling come back and was able to get helped up. I told a guy I could not even try and start my bike so he did and I got on and actually rode a wheelie on way to the trailer. I pulled in and couldn't get off and needed help. My buddy drove home. I went to doctor and we did tests and he gave me an injection. He knew I did not like pain meds but he wrote me two scripts and he gave me two boxes of 5 Fentanyl patches and put two on my arm. We got the scripts filled of pain pills and I ate a few. That night I was hurting so bad it was incredible. The doctor suggests I remove the fentanyl patches from arm and put two near my heart. In the morning I'm on the floor in and out of consciousness and my mom comes by and calls ambulance. At the hospital I get wheeled into the hall way and left there. I'm in fetal position and throwing up on a cart in hallway. I notice the nurse holding the two fentinol boxes that are held together by the script for ten, five in each box but I had used four. She comes over and says, "we all know your not hurt, you just want pain meds. You got these yesterday and nine are gone" I couldn't even speak and it was like I was in a nightmare. She was accusing me of being a addict and I don't even drink. Well my mom points out that there is five in one box and one in the other and why and then she gives the lady my two FULL pain pill bottles and says, "what kind of junkie brings all his pain meds in and hasn't even taken hardly any?" Right then the nurse said OMG we are so sorry. They instantly wheel me in a private room and hook me up to the delaudid drip and the pain subsides. The surgeon said I should have never been able to take one step. Surgery was a complete success.
Grieby54 wrote:
What surgery did you have?
Microdiscectomy with frag removal.
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Me too. I had to rewrite a few parts to be more clear. I apologize if I sounded like a jerk at all. I see I...
Me too. I had to rewrite a few parts to be more clear. I apologize if I sounded like a jerk at all. I see I was misleading as I wrote it pretty fast and it came off wrong in a few areas. You seem like a good guy. Thanks for your response.
Of course, no worries bud. Cheers...
5/25/2015 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 5/25/2015 9:10pm
Whatever "doctor" you saw that prescribed the fentanyl patch for undiagnosed pain is a monumental moron. I would highly recommend not seeking advice/treatment from this person ever again.
5/25/2015 11:25pm
You lost me at the part where the bear attacked you on the track.
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Whatever "doctor" you saw that prescribed the fentanyl patch for undiagnosed pain is a monumental moron. I would highly recommend not seeking advice/treatment from this person...
Whatever "doctor" you saw that prescribed the fentanyl patch for undiagnosed pain is a monumental moron. I would highly recommend not seeking advice/treatment from this person ever again.
+1 . insane to give a script for Fentanyl without getting checked out. that shit is NO joke.

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