What's eating Ryan Villopoto?

mattktmhall 3/29/2015 3:18pm
3/29/2015 3:18pm
He sure as hell looks fast just bad line choice I think he seems to go outside on every turn where euros go insides
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Seamorbutts 3/29/2015 3:18pm
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zook11 wrote:
Yup. That and not racing MX in 2 years. Along with new teams and new tracks. None of the euros would do as good as he's...
Yup. That and not racing MX in 2 years. Along with new teams and new tracks.

None of the euros would do as good as he's doing over there over here. It's still a 2nd class racing league compared to the Ama nationals.
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You honestly have no class at all.....
Everyone can be some what civil with each other, then here he comes and shits on everything. I understand rooting for your rider, but fuck all the disrespect. Even "The Source" is not so blatantly disrespectul, and makes good points every so often. I haven't been a member of Vital as long as most guys on here, but ever since I joined he's been an antagonist it seems.
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ridge 3/29/2015 3:25pm
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I'm surprised at how many guys (I've barely heard of) are running RV's pace. I think it's awesome though, and I hope he figures it out in time for the championship.

If you compare his forks to the others, it looks like RV is running SX suspension, which is affecting his line choice.
mattktmhall 3/29/2015 3:32pm
3/29/2015 3:32pm
I seriously doubt sx suspension. his set up shouldn't be that far off the team has been going this enough years to know what works. I'd say it's more his lack of wanting to slow down to get to the insides the guy twists that throttle so hard

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Seamorbutts 3/29/2015 3:34pm
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I'm surprised at how many guys (I've barely heard of) are running RV's pace. I think it's awesome though, and I hope he figures it out...
I'm surprised at how many guys (I've barely heard of) are running RV's pace. I think it's awesome though, and I hope he figures it out in time for the championship.

If you compare his forks to the others, it looks like RV is running SX suspension, which is affecting his line choice.
In the first moto it looked that way. In my opinion it seems hard for him to go inside because he's running his forks so high and rear too low like DV talks about (that will make you go wide). If he would just try a more balanced approach, but he probably will never because he's always ran his front to rear out of balance. You can see it too actually while he's out there. Everyone to his own I suppose.
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ML512 3/29/2015 3:36pm
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Seamorbutts wrote:
In the first moto it looked that way. In my opinion it seems hard for him to go inside because he's running his forks so high...
In the first moto it looked that way. In my opinion it seems hard for him to go inside because he's running his forks so high and rear too low like DV talks about (that will make you go wide). If he would just try a more balanced approach, but he probably will never because he's always ran his front to rear out of balance. You can see it too actually while he's out there. Everyone to his own I suppose.
RV is running different suspension components than what Paulin raced with.
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Seamorbutts 3/29/2015 3:45pm
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In the first moto it looked that way. In my opinion it seems hard for him to go inside because he's running his forks so high...
In the first moto it looked that way. In my opinion it seems hard for him to go inside because he's running his forks so high and rear too low like DV talks about (that will make you go wide). If he would just try a more balanced approach, but he probably will never because he's always ran his front to rear out of balance. You can see it too actually while he's out there. Everyone to his own I suppose.
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RV is running different suspension components than what Paulin raced with.
I meant a more balanced approach like paulins, not actually Paulins setup. you quoted me while I was editing that part. lol...My point is, I just find it funny that he runs his bike so far off from what everyone would consider the norm. I know I could never ride chopper style, so I don't see how he does it at such a high level. I use to notice the tiniest of ajustments to my sag or forks.
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ATKpilot99 3/29/2015 3:49pm
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I think the expectations may have been a little too high going into the season, and I'm guilty of it too. I didn't expect him to smoke everyone but I didn't expect him to be 27 points down either. Looking at it realistically he's probably right about where he should be going into an unfamiliar series. And on a positive not he's already got a win under his belt, and also there's a long way to go and he's not out of it yet.
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ML512 3/29/2015 3:54pm
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Seamorbutts wrote:
I meant a more balanced approach like paulins, not actually Paulins setup. you quoted me while I was editing that part. lol...My point is, I just...
I meant a more balanced approach like paulins, not actually Paulins setup. you quoted me while I was editing that part. lol...My point is, I just find it funny that he runs his bike so far off from what everyone would consider the norm. I know I could never ride chopper style, so I don't see how he does it at such a high level. I use to notice the tiniest of ajustments to my sag or forks.
What you just stated is the main reason why I don't think he should go for such a radical change to his setup. He's developed his style to work with the bike how it is. I think it would be to big of a change mid-season. My opinion is they need to keep tweaking what they have round-to-round and not get too far away from what makes him comfortable.
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Seamorbutts 3/29/2015 3:57pm
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Seamorbutts wrote:
I meant a more balanced approach like paulins, not actually Paulins setup. you quoted me while I was editing that part. lol...My point is, I just...
I meant a more balanced approach like paulins, not actually Paulins setup. you quoted me while I was editing that part. lol...My point is, I just find it funny that he runs his bike so far off from what everyone would consider the norm. I know I could never ride chopper style, so I don't see how he does it at such a high level. I use to notice the tiniest of ajustments to my sag or forks.
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What you just stated is the main reason why I don't think he should go for such a radical change to his setup. He's developed his...
What you just stated is the main reason why I don't think he should go for such a radical change to his setup. He's developed his style to work with the bike how it is. I think it would be to big of a change mid-season. My opinion is they need to keep tweaking what they have round-to-round and not get too far away from what makes him comfortable.
Good point
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Tokyo_Tiddler 3/29/2015 4:11pm
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He hasnt raced MX in a while and he has some solid competition. Even in the US when he was winning, he was still beatable.
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jamma10 3/29/2015 4:20pm
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Track surface; Slippery, bumpy, difficult tyre choice, lack of berms/ruts to rail...

He's still Ryan-Fucking-Villopoto, he'll be fine and he'll win again.
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ridge 3/29/2015 4:21pm
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mattktmhall wrote:
I seriously doubt sx suspension. his set up shouldn't be that far off the team has been going this enough years to know what works. I'd...
I seriously doubt sx suspension. his set up shouldn't be that far off the team has been going this enough years to know what works. I'd say it's more his lack of wanting to slow down to get to the insides the guy twists that throttle so hard
Yeah...I was exaggerating!

When he tries to go inside, the front pushes on the entry and then stands him up in the apex, which makes him let off the throttle for an instant.
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karsmakers 3/29/2015 4:21pm
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zook11 wrote:
Yup. That and not racing MX in 2 years. Along with new teams and new tracks. None of the euros would do as good as he's...
Yup. That and not racing MX in 2 years. Along with new teams and new tracks.

None of the euros would do as good as he's doing over there over here. It's still a 2nd class racing league compared to the Ama nationals.
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Vi-tard!! You obviously don't remember when CD25 went over for a race, with no testing etc and finished second place? Also, the current ama outdoor champ...
Vi-tard!! You obviously don't remember when CD25 went over for a race, with no testing etc and finished second place? Also, the current ama outdoor champ is a euro.
Ha dumbass... CD came over year before last with Stribos and both of the got like 5th and 6th two weeks in a row and one was at a new track. CD has never beat RD in America.....The reality is that its super tough to come over and win in either series right away. And Kroc and Marvin couldn't break into the top 3 their first full year.
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RY4N37 3/29/2015 4:23pm
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There's a long way to go in the championship, and it's certainly not over yet, but as it stands RV is 27 points down having raced 2 rounds on tracks that are brand new to everyone. The next few rounds will be familiar to everyone except him, so he really has his work cut out for him. Next up is Trentino where Desalle won last year, after that is Valkenswaard where Cairoli hasn't been beaten for 5 years, then is Spain where Desalle went 1-1 last year. The championship is heading into the strong hold of his main opposition, whilst 4-4 is not bad, if Desalle and Cairoli get stronger when they get back to Europe, which I think they will, then it's going to be a long way back
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karsmakers 3/29/2015 4:24pm
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And Dungey has also shown that no Euro including CD 25 or TC can beat him on American soil
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Mit12 3/29/2015 4:27pm
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4th in points, has one overall? He is fine.
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gsxrcr28 3/29/2015 4:35pm
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4th in points, has one overall? He is fine.
This ^^^^

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mikebrownsound 3/29/2015 4:39pm
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Setup or not She is a beauty!
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karsmakers 3/29/2015 4:44pm
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mikebrownsound wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/29/85540/s1200_wallrvbike.jpg[/img] Setup or not She is a beauty!


Setup or not She is a beauty!
She is a beauty until you have to ride that stiff sucker on a track with bumpsWink
mikebrownsound 3/29/2015 4:46pm
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She is a beauty until you have to ride that stiff sucker on a track with bumpsWink
I do agree he seem to struggle a bit with setup. But he made changes in the right directions for the second moto. He was close to the podium. He will be better. I think Ryan is more than capable to put this lady to the top of the podium
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JB 19 3/29/2015 4:58pm
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It looks to me like he is choosing lines to try to avoid bumps. (duh right?) His setup looks like it is still giving him problems when the track gets sacked out. It might go so far as that they can give him the right setttings, but it feels so abnormal to him that he is having trouble adjusting to the feel.

I'm probably the most impressed with Nagel......and his bike looks really good too.

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JB 19 3/29/2015 5:01pm
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edgo897 wrote:
We didn't send our best guy. Dungy would smoke that field
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Fuck really?


We didnt "send* anyone
Cause Dungey really showed those guys at the 12',13', and 14' Des Nations. Dry
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karsmakers 3/29/2015 5:07pm
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I've got to give it to KTM....they seem to have the best bikes right now. The engine and suspension setups are dead on... Husqvarna is looking pretty good as well (Thanks KTM). Every one of their bikes get great starts and look smooth and dialed in on the track. Credit to the riders of course but the setup is excellent
mikebrownsound 3/29/2015 5:31pm
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karsmakers wrote:
I've got to give it to KTM....they seem to have the best bikes right now. The engine and suspension setups are dead on... Husqvarna is looking...
I've got to give it to KTM....they seem to have the best bikes right now. The engine and suspension setups are dead on... Husqvarna is looking pretty good as well (Thanks KTM). Every one of their bikes get great starts and look smooth and dialed in on the track. Credit to the riders of course but the setup is excellent
That is how KTM have been since 2010 pretty much in europe. Dominating and good bike setups and quality riders. But Ryan is by no means out of this.
The Source 3/29/2015 5:32pm
3/29/2015 5:32pm
This thread has the wrong title. It should be the "Excuse" thread. Everyone is just echoing what I posted months ago and was called a anti American Ryan hater.It his suspension? Please,gag! It's his condition? fart! No GP rider would do as good in the Nationals, lame, swivel away from the point. Where is all the chest beaters circle jerking themselves with "RV will destroy and dominate that 2nd rate series"?
1. RV has just ran into the best riders and teams in their series doing what they do best, perform in the World Championship to develop and engineer the bikes for the manufactors that will be used by the AMA teams and sold to the consumers.
2. RV is just a first seat saddle jockey on one of the most advanced, experienced, technically advanced European Race teams which develop the bikes the AMA teams will be throwing bolt on performance parts on next year.Everything RV could imagine to inprove his bike is available to him, This is the GPs rules (prototype and development) not AMA restrictions.If RV has refused or insist on doing it his way that's his choice and it's not working to the GP level, who's fault?
3 RV made a desicision to not follow standard GP team protocol and bypassed the pre-season completely even though he is a rookie and has no knowledge or track time with any of the riders or teams he will compete against.
4. Anything RV has acomplished in the past has no merit to the riders he is competeing against now.
5. Any discussion, argument, excuse or suggestion you have for or against RV will not have any effect on RV.
6.Everyone should relax and enjoy this once in a lifetime season.
7..The European followers and participants in the GPs knew RV would be about where he's at right now, not a surprise to us.
The American fans who have not a clue as to what the the GPs are and are just now getting aquianted, a warm welcome to
you, sit back and enjoy. Your level of MX intelligence is being upgraded right before your eyes.
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Rick M. 3/29/2015 5:36pm
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The Source wrote:
This thread has the wrong title. It should be the "Excuse" thread. Everyone is just echoing what I posted months ago and was called a anti...
This thread has the wrong title. It should be the "Excuse" thread. Everyone is just echoing what I posted months ago and was called a anti American Ryan hater.It his suspension? Please,gag! It's his condition? fart! No GP rider would do as good in the Nationals, lame, swivel away from the point. Where is all the chest beaters circle jerking themselves with "RV will destroy and dominate that 2nd rate series"?
1. RV has just ran into the best riders and teams in their series doing what they do best, perform in the World Championship to develop and engineer the bikes for the manufactors that will be used by the AMA teams and sold to the consumers.
2. RV is just a first seat saddle jockey on one of the most advanced, experienced, technically advanced European Race teams which develop the bikes the AMA teams will be throwing bolt on performance parts on next year.Everything RV could imagine to inprove his bike is available to him, This is the GPs rules (prototype and development) not AMA restrictions.If RV has refused or insist on doing it his way that's his choice and it's not working to the GP level, who's fault?
3 RV made a desicision to not follow standard GP team protocol and bypassed the pre-season completely even though he is a rookie and has no knowledge or track time with any of the riders or teams he will compete against.
4. Anything RV has acomplished in the past has no merit to the riders he is competeing against now.
5. Any discussion, argument, excuse or suggestion you have for or against RV will not have any effect on RV.
6.Everyone should relax and enjoy this once in a lifetime season.
7..The European followers and participants in the GPs knew RV would be about where he's at right now, not a surprise to us.
The American fans who have not a clue as to what the the GPs are and are just now getting aquianted, a warm welcome to
you, sit back and enjoy. Your level of MX intelligence is being upgraded right before your eyes.
Let me be first to tell you, everyone thinks your an idiot and will not read through your stupid long ass post you just wasted 20 minutes of your life typing.
But think what you must to get joy out of whatever you think you do by being arrogant on this board.
mikebrownsound 3/29/2015 5:38pm
3/29/2015 5:38pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2015 5:41pm
The Source wrote:
This thread has the wrong title. It should be the "Excuse" thread. Everyone is just echoing what I posted months ago and was called a anti...
This thread has the wrong title. It should be the "Excuse" thread. Everyone is just echoing what I posted months ago and was called a anti American Ryan hater.It his suspension? Please,gag! It's his condition? fart! No GP rider would do as good in the Nationals, lame, swivel away from the point. Where is all the chest beaters circle jerking themselves with "RV will destroy and dominate that 2nd rate series"?
1. RV has just ran into the best riders and teams in their series doing what they do best, perform in the World Championship to develop and engineer the bikes for the manufactors that will be used by the AMA teams and sold to the consumers.
2. RV is just a first seat saddle jockey on one of the most advanced, experienced, technically advanced European Race teams which develop the bikes the AMA teams will be throwing bolt on performance parts on next year.Everything RV could imagine to inprove his bike is available to him, This is the GPs rules (prototype and development) not AMA restrictions.If RV has refused or insist on doing it his way that's his choice and it's not working to the GP level, who's fault?
3 RV made a desicision to not follow standard GP team protocol and bypassed the pre-season completely even though he is a rookie and has no knowledge or track time with any of the riders or teams he will compete against.
4. Anything RV has acomplished in the past has no merit to the riders he is competeing against now.
5. Any discussion, argument, excuse or suggestion you have for or against RV will not have any effect on RV.
6.Everyone should relax and enjoy this once in a lifetime season.
7..The European followers and participants in the GPs knew RV would be about where he's at right now, not a surprise to us.
The American fans who have not a clue as to what the the GPs are and are just now getting aquianted, a warm welcome to
you, sit back and enjoy. Your level of MX intelligence is being upgraded right before your eyes.
Could that post be one of the most emberassing ive seen in a long time, Who do you think you are ?

You write like you got 45 years of experience racing GP´s.

7..The European followers and participants in the GPs knew RV would be about where he's at right now, not a surprise to us? Did you just write that.

RV has refused or insist on doing it his way that's his choice and it's not working to the GP level, who's fault how the f*ck would you know anything about what rv is doing behind the scenes and the team?

you, sit back and enjoy. Your level of MX intelligence is being upgraded right before your eyes. Who do you think you are? Would love to know you real name and your knowledge about motocross in general pls give us, except posting this shit.

What a ignorant prick could this be the first post that actually got med pissed of i even swallowed the bait.
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edgo897 wrote:
We didn't send our best guy. Dungy would smoke that field
Are you freaking serious! Dungey would be smoking everybody? When did Dungey ever beat RV in the outdoors for a championship? I have nothing but respect for the Dunge, but the euro's have been slapping him silly the past few years at the MXdN. NO WAY would Dungey be doing better than RV at this point of the series.
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Only 23 years, Enjoy

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