Villopoto, Herlings, Nagl and more at Veldhoven

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bama205 3/23/2015 6:40pm
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Man people over there are just butt ass fugly looking
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oilman400 3/23/2015 6:42pm
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love the raw sound of just hearing those engines working, why anybody would put music over it i'll never understand.
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41NDT wrote:
i was thinking the exact same thing add in some of the huge crowds they get and it would be an absolute C U Next Tuesday...
i was thinking the exact same thing add in some of the huge crowds they get and it would be an absolute C U Next Tuesday.
I wonder if RV wins the title if the Euros will change there mind on this you gotta ride in the sand thing all the time. It seems like its a trend only followed because the 2 current domination world champs always ride the sand?
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It is an amateur track but quit good to get practice for Valkensvard. During races you might not see many spectators. Rode the track some years...
It is an amateur track but quit good to get practice for Valkensvard.
During races you might not see many spectators.

Rode the track some years ago its nice.
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Looks sweet
I am going back in summer for 2 month and ride some sand tracks in the Netherlands.
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Outsider 3/23/2015 6:45pm
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Herlings did look exceptional.. hopefully that changes as RV learns more
Watching again Ryan looks really good as well... how many times has Herlings and Nagl ridden that track vs no times times for RV.. you euro folk should not cling too tightly to these tracks cause there is a surprise coming, me thinks Smile

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Tim507 3/23/2015 6:58pm
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Outsider wrote:
Herlings did look exceptional.. hopefully that changes as RV learns more
This for sure..... Ryan is stepping up big time for the challenge of his life Woohoo
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I heard from a reliable source that was there who said Herlings was 8 seconds a lap faster than Villopoto. Woohoo
impressive! so the kids on the 125s were 6 seconds faster than RV as well, as they were only 2 seconds or so slower than herlings after re-watching the the very beginning of that video..... or maybe herlings wasn't trying so hard in that segment of the video? **** sorry, couldn't resist**** ;^)

they all look fast!

in all seriousness, RV sounds like he's on a 250..... i don't know that i have ever heard someone bouncing off the rev limiter on a 450 as much as he does. "the man" said that very few people can use all the power that a 450 has to offer..... at times RV sounds like he needs more! that kid's skills are insane! actually, all of them have amazing talent.
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Nagl has taken to that Husky quite well, looked comfortable and had good drive.
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JohnnyD13 3/23/2015 10:18pm
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I tried doing some segment counting myself and it seemed herlings was faster. Cool video for sure.
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RY4N37 3/23/2015 11:12pm
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Looks like a difficult track to make up time on, it seems pretty fast, it wasn't all that rough. It did seem like Herlings was the fastest, and you could see that Nagl was pulling away from RV a little. RV looked fast for sure, but he didn't look as comfortable as the others, they all seemed to be pulling higher gears than him too. He'll get there, whether or not he gets there for Valkenswaard in a months time remains to be seen
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Wildeye511 3/24/2015 12:07am
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Anybody know if they are going to be out there again today? I am not far from the track and would love to watch those guys practice.....
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kongols 3/24/2015 12:31am
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Anybody know if they are going to be out there again today? I am not far from the track and would love to watch those guys...
Anybody know if they are going to be out there again today? I am not far from the track and would love to watch those guys practice.....
Don`t know. All I know is Cairoli had the last day of training yesterday and is flying out to Argentina. Perhaps those guy`s are doing the same.
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Wildeye511 3/24/2015 12:35am
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Anybody know if they are going to be out there again today? I am not far from the track and would love to watch those guys...
Anybody know if they are going to be out there again today? I am not far from the track and would love to watch those guys practice.....
kongols wrote:
Don`t know. All I know is Cairoli had the last day of training yesterday and is flying out to Argentina. Perhaps those guy`s are doing the...
Don`t know. All I know is Cairoli had the last day of training yesterday and is flying out to Argentina. Perhaps those guy`s are doing the same.
Thanks for the info, I will step outside my office and see if I can hear anyone riding and maybe take a long lunch to see who is out there....
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philG 3/24/2015 1:10am
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mx836 wrote:
I heard from a reliable source that was there who said Herlings was 8 seconds a lap faster than Villopoto. Woohoo
gjbruny wrote:
impressive! so the kids on the 125s were 6 seconds faster than RV as well, as they were only 2 seconds or so slower than herlings...
impressive! so the kids on the 125s were 6 seconds faster than RV as well, as they were only 2 seconds or so slower than herlings after re-watching the the very beginning of that video..... or maybe herlings wasn't trying so hard in that segment of the video? **** sorry, couldn't resist**** ;^)

they all look fast!

in all seriousness, RV sounds like he's on a 250..... i don't know that i have ever heard someone bouncing off the rev limiter on a 450 as much as he does. "the man" said that very few people can use all the power that a 450 has to offer..... at times RV sounds like he needs more! that kid's skills are insane! actually, all of them have amazing talent.
And that is the issue, nobody who is fast in the sand on a 450 sounds fast ... Waters Watson and Nagl were all a gear higher at least., That's where the momentum comes from.

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RY4N37 3/24/2015 1:13am
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mx836 wrote:
I heard from a reliable source that was there who said Herlings was 8 seconds a lap faster than Villopoto. Woohoo
gjbruny wrote:
impressive! so the kids on the 125s were 6 seconds faster than RV as well, as they were only 2 seconds or so slower than herlings...
impressive! so the kids on the 125s were 6 seconds faster than RV as well, as they were only 2 seconds or so slower than herlings after re-watching the the very beginning of that video..... or maybe herlings wasn't trying so hard in that segment of the video? **** sorry, couldn't resist**** ;^)

they all look fast!

in all seriousness, RV sounds like he's on a 250..... i don't know that i have ever heard someone bouncing off the rev limiter on a 450 as much as he does. "the man" said that very few people can use all the power that a 450 has to offer..... at times RV sounds like he needs more! that kid's skills are insane! actually, all of them have amazing talent.
philG wrote:
And that is the issue, nobody who is fast in the sand on a 450 sounds fast ... Waters Watson and Nagl were all a gear...
And that is the issue, nobody who is fast in the sand on a 450 sounds fast ... Waters Watson and Nagl were all a gear higher at least., That's where the momentum comes from.

That's something that Herlings manages to do as well, even on a 250. To carry a gear higher than everyone else, like you say, it's all about momentum, especially as the track gets more whooped out and rough
Aceofspades 3/24/2015 1:22am
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What is the secret to riding sand? I'm seriously curious. Is it finding the lines that are packed in tighter as opposed to loose sand, or what?
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segers 3/24/2015 1:35am
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Aceofspades wrote:
What is the secret to riding sand? I'm seriously curious. Is it finding the lines that are packed in tighter as opposed to loose sand, or...
What is the secret to riding sand? I'm seriously curious. Is it finding the lines that are packed in tighter as opposed to loose sand, or what?
Keep momentum in the corners,go bump 2 bump when rough,let the power of the bike do the work to save MUCH energy,dont hold the bars to tight in the hands or you get armpump in about 2 laps,work with the legs.
I ride these tracks a lot and do nothing of the above so i suck
Motocross83 3/24/2015 1:42am
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Aceofspades wrote:
What is the secret to riding sand? I'm seriously curious. Is it finding the lines that are packed in tighter as opposed to loose sand, or...
What is the secret to riding sand? I'm seriously curious. Is it finding the lines that are packed in tighter as opposed to loose sand, or what?
This is a quick but interesting vid. It's titled "cornering" but Stefan spends most of his time discussing sand here. As above he also mentions running a higher gear whenever possible and some other good tips. Wish I knew what the secret was too, I guess the easy answer is religiously practicing all the right techniques over and over, but it does seem to be something that some riders can take further than others. Cairoli has mastered it whereas it still looks to be a weak point with Searle (not saying he can't get better too).

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kaidoddragon 3/24/2015 1:48am
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At the beginning of the video, we can calculate some lap times because the guy capture 1 full lap (you can see Nalg and Herlings at the very beginning of the video and then they pass again at about 2 minutes)

Herlings was in 1:33/1:34 a lap, Nagl was in 1:32/1:33

So Nagl was little bit faster that lap.
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Jefro98 3/24/2015 1:58am
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segers wrote:
Keep momentum in the corners,go bump 2 bump when rough,let the power of the bike do the work to save MUCH energy,dont hold the bars to...
Keep momentum in the corners,go bump 2 bump when rough,let the power of the bike do the work to save MUCH energy,dont hold the bars to tight in the hands or you get armpump in about 2 laps,work with the legs.
I ride these tracks a lot and do nothing of the above so i suck
^^
Also:
Keep standing on the pegs and keep the front end light by staying on the back of the bike.

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kaidoddragon wrote:
At the beginning of the video, we can calculate some lap times because the guy capture 1 full lap (you can see Nalg and Herlings at...
At the beginning of the video, we can calculate some lap times because the guy capture 1 full lap (you can see Nalg and Herlings at the very beginning of the video and then they pass again at about 2 minutes)

Herlings was in 1:33/1:34 a lap, Nagl was in 1:32/1:33

So Nagl was little bit faster that lap.
this^^

and at minute 10 you can see RV's Pitboard: 1.34,1/1.34,1.., they were all pretty even, but the track was in good shape. Not really rough.
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PalerBlue 3/24/2015 2:22am
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Outsider wrote:
RV has balls of steel for practicing with those guys.. Euro posters have small balls of clay for talking negatively about it! lol I love this...
RV has balls of steel for practicing with those guys.. Euro posters have small balls of clay for talking negatively about it! lol

I love this GP season Smile
Where? Exactly WHERE in this thread has ANYONE, let alone a "Euro" said ANYTHING negative about Villapoto?

Just give the whole butthurt and offended thing a f*cking rest will you....
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themrtoad 3/24/2015 2:56am
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I think RV looked pretty good. Can't wait for next weekend.

BTW...where is Rattray? He is no where to be seen in the latest videos of RV. Injured? private stuff? sick?
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bama205 wrote:
Man people over there are just butt ass fugly looking
Is it really necessary to be so disrespectful?

This is not contributing anything to the topic, GuyB ???
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Jefro98 3/24/2015 3:30am
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I think RV looked pretty good. Can't wait for next weekend. BTW...where is Rattray? He is no where to be seen in the latest videos of...
I think RV looked pretty good. Can't wait for next weekend.

BTW...where is Rattray? He is no where to be seen in the latest videos of RV. Injured? private stuff? sick?
Rattraybwas riding elsewhere I guess.
He posted this pic in his IG yesterday.



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philG 3/24/2015 3:39am
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The secret is to treat corners like straights you just lean over for...
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bama205 wrote:
Man people over there are just butt ass fugly looking
63mark wrote:
Is it really necessary to be so disrespectful?

This is not contributing anything to the topic, GuyB ???
Lmao I was just kidding
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RV rides the track overly aggressive, dont get the flow and the smoothness that the other riders has, and i think that will hurt his cornering speed trough the sand berms.

Herlings is so fast an silky smooth, and when we are on a forum where some tards think that HP is everything, remember that Herlings is about 10 HP down on the mx1 riders.

But the track is pretty hard packed compared to Lommel and is pretty smooth so the advantage of Herlings is smaller here than what it would be on a real sand track like Lommel.
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bama205 wrote:
Man people over there are just butt ass fugly looking
63mark wrote:
Is it really necessary to be so disrespectful?

This is not contributing anything to the topic, GuyB ???
bama205 wrote:
Lmao I was just kidding
People ain't laughing my friend....
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c130 3/24/2015 4:56am
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RV looks good as does Nagl. So hard to judge who is going to come out on top this season!

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