Found - Official event shirt from the 2002 MXDN in CA

Edited Date/Time 2/24/2018 6:57am
Cleaning out some boxes at home and found this new (but very wrinkled) official MXDN event shirt..
If you recall this race crashed and burned and never even took place.. should look nice framed on the wall
having a MXDN event shirt that never even took place.. lol









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hvaughn88
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is that the mxdn that brownie was supposed to get to ride in?
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3/16/2015 7:32am
No, that was 2005. I had the shirt with Brown on it before he was dismissed.
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3/16/2015 7:40am
Fucking Soboba Indians.
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3/16/2015 7:42am
BKoonts wrote:
No, that was 2005. I had the shirt with Brown on it before he was dismissed.
oh ok. thank ya

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3/16/2015 10:17am
http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/sept-17-whos-to-blame-for-the-mxdn-d…


Will it be held or won’t it. Who’s to blame. Read on.

There is plenty of blame to go around. At the moment, most people want to blame the Indian tribe that controls the land, but they are farther down the totem pole.

WHO IS THE MAJOR CULPRIT?

The major culprit in the MXDN fiasco is Dorna. Dorna is a European promotion company that owns the right to the World Motocross Championships and the Motocross Des Nations (MXDN). The 2002 MXDN was originally scheduled to be held at Spa in Belgium (with Georges Jobe as the promoter). When Spa elected not to hold the race, Dorna failed to find any other takers. The best, and perhaps only, offer that Dorna had was from a local SoCal race track (in the sleepy little town of San Jacinto).
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Dorna and the FIM leapfrogged over the AMA, probably because they were thinking that this was a way to get even with the AMA for wrecking the World Supercross Championships that the FIM had put together with Clear Channel. No matter, Dorna reportedly did not offer the MXDN to any other American tracks (and it is unlikely that any American track would have been willing to pay the $600,000 sanction fee that Dorna was reportedly asking for the MXDN). So, Dorna elected to bypass the AMA and deal directly with the local SoCal track–Competition Park.

WHY WAS COMPETITION PARK A PROBLEM?

There was one problem with San Jacinto’s Competition Park. It did not exist. The old Competition Park, located about five miles from the new one, closed down in June of 2002. But Dorna pressed on, and agreed to hold the MXDN at the new Competition Park. Even though, it didnt exist yet. They sent a delegation over to look at a flat field about 60 miles East of Los Angeles–and approved the non-existing track as being FIM worthy.

ARE YOU STILL WITH US?

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A quick recap is in order. Here are the ten chess moves that have brought the MXDN to the brink.

(1) The 2002 MXDN was supposed to be held at Spa, Belgium.

(2) Spa turned it down.

(3) Nobody else in Europe wanted it.

(4) The FIM did not actively seek out Mt. Morris, Budds Creek, Glen Helen or any other AMA race track.

(5) Competition Park inquired about the possibility of holding the race at their track.

(6) In what can only be seen as a desperation move, Dorna accepted Competition Parks offer (which did not include Competition Park paying Dorna the reported $600,000 it was asking–but something closer to $125,000 — with a promise to go into a partnership, IOU or lend-lease agreement for more money after the event was held.

(7) Competition Park did not exist when Dorna accepted their offer.

(8) Competition Park (nor its promoters) had ever held a major AMA race, International event, Trans-AMA or Grand Prix. AND, They are not affiliated with the AMA–which is the FIMs recognized federation for the United States.

(9) The new Competition Park was built on Luiseno Indian land, next to the Soboba Casino. Although the MXDN track is not ready for the MXDN–the promoter thinks they will have it ready by September 29. The Park has been open for practice since late summer.

(10) Two weeks ago a rider was killed while practicing at Competition Park . This unfortunate incident was made all the much more serious because the rider was a member of the very small Luiseno band of Indians. The death of one of their own, plus reported complaints about dust, noise and sanitation led the Tribal Council to meet and order the track shut down. The Indian tribe knows nothing about motocross–and even less about the MXDN. They were reacting to a death on their tribal land and Indian complaints. Since the Luisano Indians are recognized by the Federal Government, their land is considered a sovereign nation (in essence, they aren’t bound by state laws and have tremendous leeway in what they can do).

THE WHO’S WHY’S AND WHAT’S

So, who is to blame for the 2002 MXDN fiasco? The FIM and Dorna. They violated every rule in the book when they handed the event to a non-existent track in the middle of nowhere. The FIM should take the heat if the Indian tribe succeeds in closing the track down. The race should never have been given to a track that didn’t exist and was not affiliated with the FIM or its host countries federation.

As for the Competition Park promoters, you can’t blame them for trying. They gambled that hosting a major event would put their new track on the map. It has–even if most of the things said about it are disparaging.

LETS GET REAL FOR A SECOND

Lets not get too weepy about the MXDN. Its not the most important race in the world any more. It was at one time, but with constant rule changes, lack of interest by American stars and a changing international atmosphere, it is just an oddity now. The best riders in the world race in the USA–not on the GP circuit. The MXDN is old school.

Will the 2002 MXDN be held at Competition Park in less than two weeks? It’s lucky that the track is next to a casino because the odds are running about 50-50. Could it be moved to another track at the last second? Yes, but each passing day makes that a more difficult proposition. Which tracks would be willing to take it? None are chomping at the bit–but there are lots of tracks in SoCal that are better than Competition Park (or no worse).

What about Glen Helen Raceway, after all, it has held AMA Nationals and Grands Prix. It is both FIM and AMA approved? If push came to shove–Glen Helen would allow the MXDN to move to their track–but the logistics of spectator fencing, concessions, porta-cans and personnel will be untenable as each day passes.

NOW YOU KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW

Now you know everything there is to know about the MXDN. The FIM looks stupid, Dorna looks greedy, the AMA looks inept, the Indians look like the bad guys and the MXDN looks irrelevant.
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3/16/2015 10:30am
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile
3/16/2015 10:35am
GuyB wrote:
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile
If they're nice looking like the recent ones, I could add them to my MXdN stuff. Wink
3/16/2015 10:44am
GuyB wrote:
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile
Actually yes, If you could find one I'll take it.. would be cool to have it behind the glass if I frame this.
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3/16/2015 10:51am
Let me see if I can dig them up. Side note...they were a gift from Marty Moates.
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3/16/2015 10:57am
Are you kidding? What a cool piece of behind-the-scenes motoneverwasbelia those would be. I would put that in my collection with my Cannondale MX400 sales brochure and Grant Langston rear wheel spokes.

My junk drawer is epic.
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3/16/2015 11:03am
Did I miss it or was there zero mention of Malcolm McCassey in that article? Of course it looks like that was written a couple weeks before the race was supposed to take place. How many people got burned on that deal.....

I'll take some stickers Mr. Giberson. Thankfully I put off ordering tickets and booking flights till the final hours.
3/16/2015 11:05am
Malcolm pretty much burn down a few bridges that year..
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3/16/2015 11:10am
I bought this one a long time ago in a " Ross " store. They had a ton of them. Always thought it was interesting.



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3/16/2015 11:35am
GuyB wrote:
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile


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3/16/2015 11:36am
GuyB wrote:
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile
MXerDW wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/16/84065/s1200_Picture_376.jpg[/img]


Yep, just like that. Smile
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3/16/2015 11:39am
GuyB wrote:
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile
That's pretty damn awesome. I wouldn't mind getting one, as well, if you're offering. If so, just let me know what I need to do.
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3/16/2015 11:58am
GuyB wrote:
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile
hvaughn88 wrote:
That's pretty damn awesome. I wouldn't mind getting one, as well, if you're offering. If so, just let me know what I need to do.
Same here...
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3/16/2015 1:27pm
GuyB wrote:
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile
MXerDW wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2015/03/16/84065/s1200_Picture_376.jpg[/img]


GuyB wrote:
Yep, just like that. Smile
UTAH! Get me two!
3/16/2015 1:35pm
GuyB wrote:
If I dug deep enough, I could find a whole roll of tickets to that event.

Anybody want some? Smile
hvaughn88 wrote:
That's pretty damn awesome. I wouldn't mind getting one, as well, if you're offering. If so, just let me know what I need to do.
zook11 wrote:
Same here...
And here. Amazing you have those and from Marty Moates none the less.
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4/19/2016 4:38pm
I don't normally bring up old stuff. But man I totally forgot about this whole fiasco. What a cluster.Silly
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I like the misspelling of San Jacinto, CA...San JaNsinto
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That roll of tickets is awesome!
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as much of a cluster f*** as it seemed. It actually turned out nicely
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4/19/2016 7:31pm
The track and facility was actually pretty cool before it closed. I remember a local guide from the tribe got killed and the tribe got bad mojo and pulled the plug.

Comp park Jim used to post a lot on proride
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newmann wrote:
Did I miss it or was there zero mention of Malcolm McCassey in that article? Of course it looks like that was written a couple weeks...
Did I miss it or was there zero mention of Malcolm McCassey in that article? Of course it looks like that was written a couple weeks before the race was supposed to take place. How many people got burned on that deal.....

I'll take some stickers Mr. Giberson. Thankfully I put off ordering tickets and booking flights till the final hours.
So crazy just reading through this stuff.

http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/competition-park-getting-ready-for-m…

http://motocrossactionmag.com/news/sep-19-the-motocross-des-nations-pro…


September 20, 2002

Crucial Meeting at 4:00 p.m. today on MXDN fate

Racer X has learned that a crucial meeting will take place at 4:00 p.m. today between the Sobaba Band Tribal Leaders, the Motocross des Nations promoters, and other interested parties. At that point, if the Indians do not sign off on the race and write a letter to Dorna saying it's a go before 6:00 p.m., the race will be postponed for one month and take place on October 27 in Bellpuig, Spain. Stay tuned for more details as they develop.


The latest from RacerX - 11:20 CST

As the MXdN turns....

It appears that the meeting between the MXdN promoters and the Indian tribal leaders did not go well late Friday afternoon. But according to people close to the whole situation out in California, nearby Glen Helen Raceway in San Bernardino, California, is being offered up to Dorna and the people in Europe as an alternative site to host the race next weekend, which would allow American motocross fans and all of the riders and teams already here to still have the race. However, it is not known if Dorna will accept this proposal, which was apparently put together between Marty Moates, Vintage Iron's Rick Doughty and Glen Helen's Bud Feldkamp while race promoters Malcolm McCassey and Jim Fasciutto were still arguing their case with the Sobaba Indians. Stay tuned to Racerxill.com for any more news or a Dorna reaction to this latest development.

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4/19/2016 7:49pm
I'd like a ticket also please.

:-)
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Showed up to this thread a little late, but I would love one of those tickets.
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4/19/2016 9:33pm
In line for a ticket here too.

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