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The Hurricane 11/9/2008 8:07pm
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yet townley still won more rounds than villopoto? I'd hardly say villopoto is a brick wall. that championship was a shitload closer than any others that...
yet townley still won more rounds than villopoto? I'd hardly say villopoto is a brick wall. that championship was a shitload closer than any others that villopoto has won.
http://www.amaproracing.com/prorace/raceres/mx/totpoints.asp?cls=m1&snc…

Villo won , 14 moto wins, 5 overalls

Townley won 8 moto wins, 6 overalls

Townley cracked under pressure toward the end and the above results don't include that Villo DNFed a moto
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mohammed 11/9/2008 8:08pm
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I doubt that it will see more than 3 difference winners. canard ,izzi and stroupe are fast and hungry young riders but i dont see them running the pace the whole race as dungey pourcel and searle. They are more experienced and stronger riders physically, pourcel and searle are use to running 45 min motos.
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mohammed 11/9/2008 8:10pm
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i wont be suprised to see pourcel and searle finish one and two in the ama champoinship. I think dungey is the only ama rider that...
i wont be suprised to see pourcel and searle finish one and two in the ama champoinship. I think dungey is the only ama rider that can battle with those two. the others are too young and inexperienced to do battle with the top 3.
what can you expect from a 12 year old.
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it's amazing how you guys can live in your little cocooned bubble in the USA and not realise what is going on in the real world...
it's amazing how you guys can live in your little cocooned bubble in the USA and not realise what is going on in the real world.
Both Pourcel and Searle will both be title threats next year in the AMA 250 nationals, mark my world. Pourcel had already won a US lites SX and his practice times are quicker than his brother, who gaves James Stewart a wake up call at the MXDN.
Both these kids have proven themselves in GP racing and earned their rides. Their not from the spoon feed US Loretta Lynn system, where any quick kid seemingly gets full on support , then implodes when the pressure to succeed is on.
Like Townely showed Villo in 2007? Oh wait, Villo took that one. Or are you talking about that Loretta Lynn kid, Bubba Stewart or RC? Hmmm....

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mohammed wrote:
I doubt that it will see more than 3 difference winners. canard ,izzi and stroupe are fast and hungry young riders but i dont see them...
I doubt that it will see more than 3 difference winners. canard ,izzi and stroupe are fast and hungry young riders but i dont see them running the pace the whole race as dungey pourcel and searle. They are more experienced and stronger riders physically, pourcel and searle are use to running 45 min motos.
So is your sand boy who dropped out of the second moto at Southwick. Do you guys even think before you post?
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john1753 11/9/2008 9:45pm
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yet townley still won more rounds than villopoto? I'd hardly say villopoto is a brick wall. that championship was a shitload closer than any others that...
yet townley still won more rounds than villopoto? I'd hardly say villopoto is a brick wall. that championship was a shitload closer than any others that villopoto has won.
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http://www.amaproracing.com/prorace/raceres/mx/totpoints.asp?cls=m1&snct=p5140&year=2007&p=2 Villo won , 14 moto wins, 5 overalls Townley won 8 moto wins, 6 overalls Townley cracked under pressure toward the end and the above...
http://www.amaproracing.com/prorace/raceres/mx/totpoints.asp?cls=m1&snc…

Villo won , 14 moto wins, 5 overalls

Townley won 8 moto wins, 6 overalls

Townley cracked under pressure toward the end and the above results don't include that Villo DNFed a moto
you just said it yourself, townley won more overalls, which is what i said in the first place......
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you just said it yourself, townley won more overalls, which is what i said in the first place......
Look at moto wins, and include the fact that Villo had a DNF to see the whole picture.
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john1753 11/9/2008 11:47pm
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once again i dont care about moto wins, i'm talking about round wins.
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jonjon714 11/10/2008 5:44am
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Windham sez....

THE mx addict 11/10/2008 5:49am
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Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ...

Just wait and see...

But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And they know the tracks by heart...

So it will be difficult for Pourcel and Searle, no doubt...
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jamma10 11/10/2008 6:33am
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Just a shame the outdoor series if such a long way off! Its' going to be interesting thats for sure because C.Pourcel & Searle are two of our fastest guys, so their only excuse will be failing to adapt to the high temperatures at some of the races.


I don't know much about the MDK/KTM team though... Can they realistically compete against the Pro Circuit KXF's and Dungey's RMZ?
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J.F.S 11/10/2008 6:36am
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With all due respect for the GP riders, I think Searle is gonna have a hard time, I wish he will be up there though.
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Larry 11/10/2008 7:13am
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So Zack Osbourne has all of the GP dudes so scared that they are defecting to the US?
Come on guys it will be at least a year before he dominates.
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j100 11/10/2008 7:17am
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mohammed wrote:
what can you expect from a 12 year old.
says the person with the moronic post.
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AMA714 11/10/2008 7:31am
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They are fast, and I hope they come here and battle but what happens in Europe does not always translate to the US series.

The 250F class has so many fast guys in the top 15. Yes there was 2-3 guys that were way out front but I doubt that Pourcel or Searl are going to adapt to the intensity that the top guys run for a full 30 min.

Like almost every Euro says when they come here to race.... they can run the pace of the fastest guys, but when they would normally start to relax and slowdown after sprinting to a lead; the US guys hold that sprint pace for the whole moto....

Until they get here and line up with the competition this debate is pointless. 2009 is going to be awesome...
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THE mx addict wrote:
Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ... Just wait and see... But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And...
Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ...

Just wait and see...

But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And they know the tracks by heart...

So it will be difficult for Pourcel and Searle, no doubt...
After seeing Pourcel do a few SX's I was more then impressed by him.
With PC/Mitch behind him, the kid could win it all!
He has proved he has what it takes.
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FastEddy 11/10/2008 8:08am
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THE mx addict wrote:
Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ... Just wait and see... But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And...
Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ...

Just wait and see...

But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And they know the tracks by heart...

So it will be difficult for Pourcel and Searle, no doubt...
After seeing Pourcel do a few SX's I was more then impressed by him.
With PC/Mitch behind him, the kid could win it all!
He has proved he has what it takes.
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babba boey 11/10/2008 8:18am
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john1753 wrote:
once again i dont care about moto wins, i'm talking about round wins.
The points are given per moto not the overall result. I think moto wins are more important than overall wins.

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The Hurricane 11/10/2008 8:36am
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john1753 wrote:
once again i dont care about moto wins, i'm talking about round wins.
well of course you don't crae about moto wins because they give a clue as to the bigger picture.
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FastEddy wrote:
After seeing Pourcel do a few SX's I was more then impressed by him. With PC/Mitch behind him, the kid could win it all! He has...
After seeing Pourcel do a few SX's I was more then impressed by him.
With PC/Mitch behind him, the kid could win it all!
He has proved he has what it takes.
We will see.
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The Hurricane 11/10/2008 8:39am
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THE mx addict wrote:
Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ... Just wait and see... But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And...
Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ...

Just wait and see...

But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And they know the tracks by heart...

So it will be difficult for Pourcel and Searle, no doubt...
FastEddy wrote:
After seeing Pourcel do a few SX's I was more then impressed by him. With PC/Mitch behind him, the kid could win it all! He has...
After seeing Pourcel do a few SX's I was more then impressed by him.
With PC/Mitch behind him, the kid could win it all!
He has proved he has what it takes.
We will see.
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TJ 755 11/10/2008 8:45am
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Kawirider wrote:
stroupe is going to win the c-ship in outdoors 09, I put money on it, He won the frist national at glen helen this year then...
stroupe is going to win the c-ship in outdoors 09, I put money on it, He won the frist national at glen helen this year then got sick and ppl have forget about him
is that what they called that.
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jamma10 11/10/2008 9:36am
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Larry wrote:
So Zack Osbourne has all of the GP dudes so scared that they are defecting to the US? Come on guys it will be at least...
So Zack Osbourne has all of the GP dudes so scared that they are defecting to the US?
Come on guys it will be at least a year before he dominates.
Laughing So its not that you guys have 'The World Premier Series' anymore, it's because Zac Osbourne has finally found his form/luck and is riding well over here! Osbourne looks class, and deserves to win a title over here if he can keep consistent, but "Euro" riders have been heading over to the US for years, as you very well know - Its always been Pourcel & Searle's plan to switch to the AMA, its never been a secret.
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jamma10 11/10/2008 9:42am
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THE mx addict wrote:
Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ... Just wait and see... But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And...
Too soon to really know Pourcel's level of performances ...

Just wait and see...

But for sure, Dungey, Stroupe and even Lawrence are pretty fast... And they know the tracks by heart...

So it will be difficult for Pourcel and Searle, no doubt...
FastEddy wrote:
After seeing Pourcel do a few SX's I was more then impressed by him. With PC/Mitch behind him, the kid could win it all! He has...
After seeing Pourcel do a few SX's I was more then impressed by him.
With PC/Mitch behind him, the kid could win it all!
He has proved he has what it takes.
The Hurricane wrote:
We will see.
You sound like someone who hasn't seen what Christophe Pourcel is capable of yet. Or at least doesn't like to entertain the thought that that he could be a serious contender?
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jamma10 11/10/2008 10:09am
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They are fast, and I hope they come here and battle but what happens in Europe does not always translate to the US series. The 250F...
They are fast, and I hope they come here and battle but what happens in Europe does not always translate to the US series.

The 250F class has so many fast guys in the top 15. Yes there was 2-3 guys that were way out front but I doubt that Pourcel or Searl are going to adapt to the intensity that the top guys run for a full 30 min.

Like almost every Euro says when they come here to race.... they can run the pace of the fastest guys, but when they would normally start to relax and slowdown after sprinting to a lead; the US guys hold that sprint pace for the whole moto....

Until they get here and line up with the competition this debate is pointless. 2009 is going to be awesome...
"What happens in Europe does not always translate to the US series"

That may be true for some (eg Steven Clarke can barely qualify for a GP over here and yet he can run top 10 in the AMA Lites!?) but generally speaking all the top GP riders that have moved to the US in recent years have been contenders straight away. Same goes for AMA riders that had moved the opposite way - they have achieved similar results to what they're used to.

Make no mistake about it, Searle and Poucell WILL be contenders next year. Pourcel shouldn't have too much of problem with the heat as he's from Marseille in the south of France. Searle on the other hand will have to spend a little more time adapting, but he has a big heart and thrives on open, fast circuits. Don't assume that because Calimero's withdrew from the 2nd moto of his 'fun ride' at Southwick that these boys will pull off the track too.
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john1753 11/10/2008 7:01pm
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The Hurricane wrote:
well of course you don't crae about moto wins because they give a clue as to the bigger picture.
what i dont crae? whats crae? pick up a dictionary you fuck.
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Lucifa 11/10/2008 8:32pm
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The Hurricane wrote:
well of course you don't crae about moto wins because they give a clue as to the bigger picture.
Moto wins = small picture, Overall = bigger picture yer dipshit.
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The Hurricane 11/10/2008 11:22pm
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i wont be suprised to see pourcel and searle finish one and two in the ama champoinship. I think dungey is the only ama rider that...
i wont be suprised to see pourcel and searle finish one and two in the ama champoinship. I think dungey is the only ama rider that can battle with those two. the others are too young and inexperienced to do battle with the top 3.
I suppose if you are too dumb to figure out that "crae" was a typo of "care" you are the real "fuck".
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The Hurricane 11/10/2008 11:23pm
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Lucifa wrote:
Moto wins = small picture, Overall = bigger picture yer dipshit.
Really? Then why did Villo take the title even with a DNF and less overalls? And who gets more points, the guy who goes 1-2 or the guy who goes 2-1? The big picture is the title and Villo won it with all THOSE MOTO WINS!!!!!
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ocscottie 11/11/2008 1:27am
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The only "overall" that matters is the one that comes at the end of the season that earns a #1 plate.

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