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11/5/2008 8:49am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 9:08pm
NetMXer- Eventhough I recently moved near the old Maryland Line track, I can't honestly say that I've yet figured exactly where it was. I rode my street bike nearby even this past weekend (as Lumpy's thread got me curious about locating it). I have an old D-7 Blue/Gray race poster from 1979 stashed away somewhere at my parent's, so once I lay my hands on it I'm sure I can get a street address off of it to use as reference.

I would have to say that you may be correct in that the area around the original track is still primarily farmland to this day. In general, not too much has changed around that area in the last 30 years. Years ago I recalled hearing that there is a house or two on the surrounding hillsides of the old track. The track was in a slight valley, and generally wasn't "hilly"-- just as Lumpy mentioned.
However, there was a hill on the far edge of the valley that was at least placed there for one race. The reason I remember that particular hill was that I was racing an XR-75 and wasn't sure that I could make it up the hill.
I did manage to make it up the hill, but unfortunately I ate the roosts of a lot of YZ-80's & RM-80's dirt in the process as they smoked past me on my little Honda thumper!
Funny now to think that after the '79 season and my armed with my new YZ-80 that I thought I'd never ride a four stroke again!

Hopefully I can shortly locate the exact address & try to get some pictures.

I also recall Damascus too. Lots of hills and rocks! It helped that there was the hillclimb there, and I think I even remember them using the side of the hillclimb as part of the track. I also recall as Lumpy did that it was run "European Style" with grass. I didn't ever get to race there, as they cancelled the minis/80cc race with us actually sitting on the line. Something about insurance at the last minute, if I recall. However, since we were members of the club promoting the event (Baltimore County Trail Riders), I managed to get a yellow flag thrown into my hands and assigned a flag position for the day!

Now that I think of it, I think that "insurance" excuse for not letting us race minis was just a way of saying "we need more flaggers!" LOL!

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11/5/2008 10:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 9:08pm
Doamscus was the Unadilla of MD.......run once a year......grass when the day started........ and rough as hell!


Remember when Scott Bland hit the girl crossing the track while he was leading an A race?
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11/5/2008 3:47pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 9:08pm
lumpy790 wrote:
Doamscus was the Unadilla of MD.......run once a year......grass when the day started........ and rough as hell! Remember when Scott Bland hit the girl crossing the...
Doamscus was the Unadilla of MD.......run once a year......grass when the day started........ and rough as hell!


Remember when Scott Bland hit the girl crossing the track while he was leading an A race?
I remember Scott hitting that girl. It was nice back in those days being able to walk around the track wherever you wanted. It's too bad that people make poor decisions sometimes and do things like cross the track in the middle of a moto.

I wonder what today's riders would think of a track like that. There wasn't a single man made obstacle on the whole track. We rode 30 minute +2 lap moto's back in those days and the track would be rougher than any National track is these days.


I remember the MD Line track being underneath some power lines. Thats what helped me track it down on Google Earth. It seemed like every year, the Blue Grey was pouring down rain, then those power lines would start crackling from all the moisture. I've got some old Cycling Easts from back then showing Ferrell flying around that track like it was dry.
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11/5/2008 4:28pm
I think this is the old Maryland Line track location.



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11/5/2008 4:42pm
I was there that day when Scott Bland hit the girl. I was in the pits and I remember thinking why isnt there anybody racing? Big delay. The next race at White Oak they started that rule where you couldnt just go wander around the track. Any of you D-7 guys race Cedar Ridge in Dilwyn Va.?
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11/5/2008 6:50pm
I raced Cedar Ridge but that was in Mineral Va. I think SME was in Dilwyn. That track is still there but called something else now..
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11/5/2008 6:57pm
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I raced Cedar Ridge but that was in Mineral Va. I think SME was in Dilwyn. That track is still there but called something else now..
Ohhh, I think it was the Spotsylvania exit off of the 95. You're right Dilwyn was another track. Anways, that was a fun track, got my first trophy there in 79. Stoked. White Oak was the closest for me at the time. Did you see the Maico series when it rolled into town? Daryl King, Dave Coupe, John Savitski was riding for HRP at the time. When those guys came to White Oak, school was in session.
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Maico Surper Series.....wow that was some good racing!
11/10/2008 12:58pm
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Skip Schildhauer..............Ya that is his name. Super nice kid and family. He rode out of Cycle 5 on Maicos but I do not remember him on...
Skip Schildhauer..............Ya that is his name. Super nice kid and family. He rode out of Cycle 5 on Maicos but I do not remember him on a Kawasaki. In 79 he might have even still been on an 80.

Its a shame Mike Farmer never made it Pro.......I think he would have had something for them.

Its funny there were so many fast MD riders that came out of MAMA and then the district.........back then only Bradshaw made a splash as a pro till Mike Moore.
Crazy...I raced with a guy named Mike Farmer yesterday at Budds and he is pretty fast! In fact I was leading Senior Amateur when he passed me on a YZ125. We battled in both motos but I went 2-2 and he went 1-1.

Someone said he used to race a lot in District 7. He is from Glen Burnie. Thought you guys might be interested-- is it the same guy you are talking about?

I used to race Aquasco, White Oak and Antietam when I was a teenager...Aquasco was a track you had to watch your ass on, with all the trees and fast downhills.
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Being from GB I kinda knew Farmer, he was my younger brothers age.
Yeah, he fast.
That guy ran from the cops so many times and got away, after awhile
they wouldn't bother chasing him, they'd just wait at his house.
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11/11/2008 7:20am
lumpy790 wrote:
Skip Schildhauer..............Ya that is his name. Super nice kid and family. He rode out of Cycle 5 on Maicos but I do not remember him on...
Skip Schildhauer..............Ya that is his name. Super nice kid and family. He rode out of Cycle 5 on Maicos but I do not remember him on a Kawasaki. In 79 he might have even still been on an 80.

Its a shame Mike Farmer never made it Pro.......I think he would have had something for them.

Its funny there were so many fast MD riders that came out of MAMA and then the district.........back then only Bradshaw made a splash as a pro till Mike Moore.
Crazy...I raced with a guy named Mike Farmer yesterday at Budds and he is pretty fast! In fact I was leading Senior Amateur when he passed...
Crazy...I raced with a guy named Mike Farmer yesterday at Budds and he is pretty fast! In fact I was leading Senior Amateur when he passed me on a YZ125. We battled in both motos but I went 2-2 and he went 1-1.

Someone said he used to race a lot in District 7. He is from Glen Burnie. Thought you guys might be interested-- is it the same guy you are talking about?

I used to race Aquasco, White Oak and Antietam when I was a teenager...Aquasco was a track you had to watch your ass on, with all the trees and fast downhills.
Yes, that was THE Mike Farmer.
I ran into him at a practice day at Seaford earlier this year, and he was telling me how he really screwed up by getting into trouble (drugs) when he could have been racing for a living instead. He seemed to really regret some of the decisions he made in life, but he seems like he's having a good time now. He's back racing in the 40+B class and enjoying himself.
11/11/2008 7:51am
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Skip Schildhauer..............Ya that is his name. Super nice kid and family. He rode out of Cycle 5 on Maicos but I do not remember him on...
Skip Schildhauer..............Ya that is his name. Super nice kid and family. He rode out of Cycle 5 on Maicos but I do not remember him on a Kawasaki. In 79 he might have even still been on an 80.

Its a shame Mike Farmer never made it Pro.......I think he would have had something for them.

Its funny there were so many fast MD riders that came out of MAMA and then the district.........back then only Bradshaw made a splash as a pro till Mike Moore.
Crazy...I raced with a guy named Mike Farmer yesterday at Budds and he is pretty fast! In fact I was leading Senior Amateur when he passed...
Crazy...I raced with a guy named Mike Farmer yesterday at Budds and he is pretty fast! In fact I was leading Senior Amateur when he passed me on a YZ125. We battled in both motos but I went 2-2 and he went 1-1.

Someone said he used to race a lot in District 7. He is from Glen Burnie. Thought you guys might be interested-- is it the same guy you are talking about?

I used to race Aquasco, White Oak and Antietam when I was a teenager...Aquasco was a track you had to watch your ass on, with all the trees and fast downhills.
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Yes, that was THE Mike Farmer. I ran into him at a practice day at Seaford earlier this year, and he was telling me how he...
Yes, that was THE Mike Farmer.
I ran into him at a practice day at Seaford earlier this year, and he was telling me how he really screwed up by getting into trouble (drugs) when he could have been racing for a living instead. He seemed to really regret some of the decisions he made in life, but he seems like he's having a good time now. He's back racing in the 40+B class and enjoying himself.
It's amazing how partying sidetracks so many racers...I think racers tend to be risk-takers ("live for today" type people)-- unfortunately the thrill-seeking mentality extends to off-track living also. Most of us have had some experience with that, including me.

Well, he's still pretty quick on that damn YZ125! He showed a bunch of 450 riders how to do it on Sunday.
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11/11/2008 8:54am
It is SOOOOOOO....great to hear Mike is out of jail and sounds like he has gotten his life in order. He was wicked fast and smooth. He would have easily made it as a pro back then. As I recall he finished 5th OA that year in Michigan.

Last I heard (several years ago) Mikes brother had a small shop in Glen Burnie.

I ran into Michael Moore at the MXoN last and his story was about the same ......except he said he will never race again.....sham as Michael was a consistent top 20 pro. I think his best Number was 87. He even said he would never let his son ride.

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11/11/2008 11:11am
Michael Moore was fast as hell too.
He pretty much dropped out of sight - I ran into him a year or so later and he said the same thing - he was done with racing.
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11/11/2008 11:13am Edited Date/Time 11/11/2008 11:14am
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I raced Cedar Ridge but that was in Mineral Va. I think SME was in Dilwyn. That track is still there but called something else now..
I believe the track in Dilwyn is now called ActionTown
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11/12/2008 6:22am
R.I.P. Kevin Crine.
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11/22/2008 10:33am
Hey All,
Found this thread while searching for Big Berm MX. Brings back a lot of good old memories. Dug up some old photos of Big Berm that I had taken back in the day -1980s. When I figure out how to post pics, I'll put em up.
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11/22/2008 2:23pm
Any of you Maryland/Virginia guys know my friend Mike Ryan? He was a late 80's early 90's expert then pro from your neck of the woods. Live in Midlothian.
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Those old pics and Cycle News articles are great. Brings back some good memories.

Thanks, Ray Pulley
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Those old pics and Cycle News articles are great. Brings back some good memories.

Thanks, Ray Pulley
Rocket Ray! Don Dailey sold me your 1980 yz 250G back in the day. Ofcourse you bent the forks on it! Good memories Ray, glad to see you're still around. How's your dad? He sold me 3 yamaha's out of the old VKC shop in Springfield.
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Lol...Sorry about the forks. My father passed away in the early 80's from cancer. I moved to Florida in 1992 and still ride occasionally. I live a few miles from Matt Goerke and ride at his track as well as a few local tracks around Orlando. Glenn Wright also lived down here and we were racing together again but he was killed in 2001 in a head on street bike accident. I was up in Virginia a couple of years ago and was at a Redskins football party with some friends and ran into John Grauman there, what a small world. I also went to dinner with the Jarman's a few years back when they were down for the Daytona SX but thats about it. What is your name and do you still run into anyone we used to race with back then?
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Very cool photos. I stumbled on a website for old drag racing of NHRA's website. It had a page on the long gone Aquasco track, basically...
Very cool photos. I stumbled on a website for old drag racing of NHRA's website. It had a page on the long gone Aquasco track, basically still there un-touched. I emailed them asking about the motocross track. He emailed me back that it was bulldozed about 10 years ago and you would have never known it was there. Was sorry to hear.
Wow!!!!! now that's ancient history.

I think this photo of yours truly (next to my handle)... is the same jump at big berm, This was me in 76?

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2/18/2010 10:37am
Glen Taylor could give Mark Hinkle a run for the money. Glen has one bad moto at red bud amateur national in 1981 and got 5th overall. nice guy, had fun talking to him that weekend. Mark Hicks who won the 1979 250 amateur national got second. Paul Walker got 3rd. Paul was a partner in Honda of Troy?????

Troy Bradshaw moved to illinois and hooked up with shel-gore industries. Marty Shell and Eric Gorr sponsored him. troy was just a little bit of a wild child. one of the few line pickers from the early 80's. He rode Eric Gorr's Rm with the fuel tank under the seat.

Mark Hinkle was a three time open amateur national champ. 78, 80 and 81 (i think.)
Also wore shorts over his leathers.
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was mike farmer the same as alfred farmer? one of them won a moto at sutter's creek-plymouth-hold hangtown amateur national in 1979.

ever young amateur wanted to be like ferrell mccoulogh. a true hero for the amateurs.

dave coupe won the pro race on saturday at the amateur national in 1979 and was really friendly and helped me quite a bit for sunday. just two moto's then on sunday for the championship.

anyone know on google maps where the old hangtown track was??
2/18/2010 7:10pm
Connie i think your mistaking Troy Bradshaw with Troy Anderson.Bradshaw was kinda quiet but very fast on the 250's and open bikes.Bradshaw won the open ama title in 84.Anderson was from Wisconsin and was the wild child that rode the rm aka the invader bike Gorr and Shell built.Anderson had a ton of talent and style but never had the work ethic to seperate training and partying.Although he could Jim Vuegler a run for his money on any given sunday with that bike.Would give Jim's old man fits when that would happen.I think on another site they talked about that bike and Anderson.
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I raced all those tracks from 75-82 as well as others in MD,VA and PA and Englishtown in NJ I used to ride and go to the races with Keith "Rock" Opeka and Gary Bayus who worked for Ralph at The Dirt Shop in College Park. There were lots of fast riders in those days from the Maryland area. Even though we lived in the DC suburbs we could ride the power lines in Adelphi or the Contee pits from Beltsville to Laural.I pounded many a Bud with Jon Beasley when he was in school at UM and later when he was the doorman at Crazy Horse in Georgetown. We partied our butts off with Mike Farmer one year in George Cavenah's van at the D7 banquet. Jimmy Lauer and Glenn Taylor were the two fastest guys for sure. I remember Glenn beating Kenny Keylon at Budds during an LLs qualifier. I was racing that day when Scott hit the girl. First airlift I ever saw at a track. Sadly it hasn't been the last. Sorry to hear about Glenn Wright getting killed. Some other fast guys who I haven't seen mentioned were Bobby Johnson, Mike Twigg, Bruce Steinbrener, Jeff Callihan, Dave Posten, Darryl Robbins etc. Glenn's brother was Scott Taylor I moved to FL in 82 and went to college and have been racing down here since 1988. What's cool with the web now you can scan the vet results of races and still see some of these guys names.
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I was racing with those guys from 75-80...

I always thought that period packed the greatest punch when it came to great D7 riders. Sad to say... all I got was the hole shot every sunday, and eventually ate their dust.There were 2 or 3 others I can't recall ...

But I do remember my friendships with :
Bradshaw, Both Taylors, Pete Wolf, Ferrel and Farmer. I really enjoyed those Sundays.
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2/23/2010 3:09pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 8:58pm
Sad to say the dirt shop closed last year....college park found a paperwork loop hole that made them close down.....huge apartment complex being built right behind the shop.


Rock has been working in parts at Dutrows Honda in Frederick for several years.

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