Harley Davidson is back in motocross

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Edited Date/Time 3/5/2015 8:04am
Having seen the success RV has had.... HD approached him to ride a "hard tailed chopper" like the Kawi he is riding. They are looking to make some inroads in Europe and feel he represents their style and brand perfectly. They will require him to ride sleeveless but the leather vest shouldn't be to warm for the GP's. He will get a million dollar bonus if he takes up smoking Marlboro's as they will now be his primary sponser. They asked him about bike setup and he told them that as long as the rear tire breaks lose he will be fine. They smiled and told him that' s what their bikes do best.

All joking aside ..bike setup may very well be the primary reason both series struggle for a year or two when they switch series. Kenny, Marvin, Tommy S, Tyla, and others have all struggled for a season or two and the Americans sure haven't killed it in the MXDN the last few years. Opinions please....
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Stay closer to church related activities.Evil
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This is what D.V. had to say: Spot on !

you can’t start from your factory US bike to test for the GPs. You almost have to start from scratch, from a bone stock bike and start bolting stuff on. It takes a lot of time. But making an US factory 450 MX bike into a good GP bike takes even more time. Just because the philosophy is so different and that’s what you have to put in your head when you start testing to race GP's. When I talked to RV in A1 about the MX GP's, I told him straight up that if he wanted to use his US bike there and steer with the rear like he often does in the US, he would hate it and struggle. His dad was there too, he looked at me and said, that’s what we do. We pivot the bike with the throttle and we won a lot of championships like that. We’ll be just fine. I didn’t really want to argue with the dad of one of the best rider the sport has seen but in my head I was like, ok whatever…


RV and his team headed back to Europe between GP's to do some more testing.
His bike in Qatar wasn’t good. It looked horrible. His forks bounced around like a ping pong ball on acid. His rear end looked very low and not moving at all. Riding like that on choppy tracks with long ruts isn’t fun and not efficient. The rear has no traction and you get kicked in every braking/acceleration bumps. The front bounced around, stays too high and you can’t get in the turns/ruts the right way. Center of gravity is too high and it’s tough to lean the bike in the ruts, in small shallow inside lines and slick flat turns. If you look at GP bikes of the riders that do good, they are more balanced. The suspensions has less damping to absorb choppy bumps and might seem real busy but it also helps in traction. RV’s bike doesn’t move in the rear. To have traction, you have to have a free-er/faster rebound. The swing arm/shock combo have to push the wheel/tire down to the ground to bite the dirt and get traction. Too often people think that if you get kicked it’s because the rebound is too fast and so they slow the rebound down.

Then, the rear wheel skims the bump while braking and acceleration but the wheel has the time to get back down to the dirt to get traction. When the tire is in the air, obviously, you have no traction. You can ride like that in Red Bud and Budds Creek and it’s a better set up for there. Since the dirt is so deep and the bumps big, if you ride with a "Euro" plusher and busier set up, both ends of your bike will be rocking back and forth and it wouldn’t be good. In Europe, only a couple tracks get that way.
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What are you thinking
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Ummm...the other thread you posted this in wasn't good enough? Dumbgeon!

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3/2/2015 4:24pm Edited Date/Time 3/2/2015 4:25pm
mx836 wrote:
Ummm...the other thread you posted this in wasn't good enough? Dumbgeon!
I apologize...I made the assumption that a few people on here have a sense of humor and don't just bitch about whatever someone posts. I am learning that Negativity is the primary prerequisite to be a retard... I mean vitard. DV just validated the premise that RV's bike is too hardtail/chopper like for the Gp's. Just having some fun with it...but that might just get me banned from this placeSad
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3/2/2015 4:29pm Edited Date/Time 3/2/2015 4:31pm
Sure! V-Engine Motocross Bike with carnival occ parts Wink

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Haha since we are making jokes...

What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?

The location of the dirt bag!

(No offense to Har....ah whatever if that offends you then piss off) Wink
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Frodad78 wrote:
Haha since we are making jokes... What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover? The location of the dirt bag! (No offense to Har....ah whatever...
Haha since we are making jokes...

What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover?

The location of the dirt bag!

(No offense to Har....ah whatever if that offends you then piss off) Wink
Haha fuck em.
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Lol
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mx836 wrote:
Ummm...the other thread you posted this in wasn't good enough? Dumbgeon!
karsmakers wrote:
I apologize...I made the assumption that a few people on here have a sense of humor and don't just bitch about whatever someone posts. I am...
I apologize...I made the assumption that a few people on here have a sense of humor and don't just bitch about whatever someone posts. I am learning that Negativity is the primary prerequisite to be a retard... I mean vitard. DV just validated the premise that RV's bike is too hardtail/chopper like for the Gp's. Just having some fun with it...but that might just get me banned from this placeSad
I guess if pointing out that you made this comment in another thread then started a new one on the same exact subject makes me a retard, then so be it. Does this mean I don't have to go to work tomorrow?
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markit wrote:
Lol
Only way a bucket of manure is going to go 85 is in the back of a pickup.
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Are you hattin or joking?? my HD bud's took it pretty good.LOL I dont own a HD and wouldn't be my first choice but wouldnt mind having one as a 2nd or 3ed street ride, I like pulling there chain with the best though.
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Vegas wrote:
All HD jokes aside does anyone follow @rustybutcher on instagram? dude kills it in the dirt on a sporty! And throws some impressive hucks with it...
All HD jokes aside does anyone follow @rustybutcher on instagram? dude kills it in the dirt on a sporty! And throws some impressive hucks with it.

https://instagram.com/p/zNy_PMqCqO/?modal=true
Holy shit... that dude has to have some brain damage.
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#USA #americafuckyeah
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Hey now, 90% of all Harley's ever made are still on the road today.








The other 10% made it home.

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