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2015 AMA Supercross Rulebook
A2 General Offenses and Penalties
a.
This section outlines actions that are deemed to be detrimental to the sport of motorcycle racing and which may result in a range of disciplinary actions. Unless otherwise specifically provided for in these rules, the Race Director may disqualify any participant or motorcycle from the balance of a race meet for violation of these rules, insubordination or other actions deemed in the sole discretion of the Race Director to be detrimental to the race meet and the sport. Such disqualification includes the loss of any rights with regard to the event in question and may result in expulsion from the meet site. In addition, the Race Director is empowered to levy fines and to recommend to AMA that a party or parties be suspended from participation in AMA sanctioned activities. Unless otherwise specifically provided for in these rules, AMA is empowered to suspend from competition any rider, crew member or motorcycle for a period of one meet up to an indefinite suspension for violation of these rules, insubordination or other actions deemed, in the sole discretion of AMA, to be detrimental to the sport of motorcycle racing. AMA is also empowered to, in addition to or in lieu of a suspension from competition, suspend a rider's eligibility to earn points for one or more events including, but not limited to, the event in which the rules violation took place. In addition, AMA is empowered to levy fines, points deductions, finishing position deductions, time penalties (which must result in the loss of at least one finishing position), and lap deductions. The beginning and ending dates of any such suspension will be as determined by AMA.
c.
The following offenses will be subject to disciplinary action by the Race Director and/or the competent bodies. This list is provided as guidance to licensed competitors and event credential holders but does not restrict AMA from invoking penal ties for other actions detrimental to the sport that are not specifically contemplated herein.
7.
Riding on or off the track at any time in such a manner as to endanger the life or limb of other riders, officials or the public.
Just going by rule #7, a lot of the sketchy passes guys make in SX...like Canards attempt and subsequent landing into Chad...are more endangering then Chad running a guy wide in a slow speed flat corner.
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Its a pitch that isnt intended to "endanger" the batter yet gives him the clear signal that the batters actions will not be tolerated.
Let's pretend...
Team A accidentally throws a wild pitch and hit's Team B's star player...
Next inning Team B throws a "brush back pitch" up under Team A's star player's chin, I would be willing to bet that the pitcher would be thrown out. Happens all the time.
However...if the one teams pitcher is throwing inside consistently and one gets away and hits a batter...then the other team will retaliate with a brush back pitch to let the other pitcher know that if hes going to make that inside pitch... much the same way Canard tried to make that pass...he better not hit the batter... or land on Chad.
In most incidences when a rider runs it in hard on another in a turn it can be argued that the guy was just racing for position. But Chad left the officials in no doubt whatsoever as to what he was doing.
Yes... I know there are pictures of block passes out there. That's 1% of the time.
The umpires should have stayed out of it and let the players take care of their business on the field. Canard lands on Chad, Chad bumps Canard.
Its over at that point...its understood between the players and they let it go. If Chad doesnt bump Canard it sends a message to Canard that he can try sketchy passes like that again on Chad....much the same way Bowers had to let Osbourne know that he wasnt going to let him ride rough with him.
Yes, Chad intentionally rubbed up against Trey...and Trey deserved it. Intentionally showing Trey a wheel, a little nudge, an elbow, whatever you want to call it in those circumstances was no big deal.
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So do you think that Reed was unfairly discriminated against in this case?
Given the same set of circumstances with someone other than Reed retaliating do you think they wouldn't have been black flagged in this case just as Reed was? And I'm not talking about any other contact that has happened in the past so please don't use that as a reference or comparison.
What's your take on Reed ignoring the black flag on more than one occasion and continuing to race?
Rick Johnson talks about intentionally running into David Bailey, running over his feet, etc, just to try and get a little of Bailey's focus off of the track and on RJ. It was a strategy.
Bob Hannah and Roger Decoster once went back and forth slamming each other so much that one of them - Hannah, I think - DNF'd because his exhaust was so smashed that his bike quit running.
Matiasevich, Bradshaw, Emig, LaRocco, and on and on...
This is a contact sport. Period.
Also, remember that every team has someone filming their riders. There is proof that Reed got the black flag that same lap, even if we aren't able to show it to you here.
Everyone can understand Reed being pissed about what happened, but it was purely accidental. Trey was going for the same pass that worked for at least four other riders shown previously on the broadcast, including Trey himself. Only difference being that every other rider who got passed in that section stuck to their line.
It was Chads prerogative whether he jumped from right to left to protect the inside of the next corner. He was perfectly entitled to do so, but you could say he was equally as guilty as Trey for not anticipating what might happen if he did it. He knew Trey was right on him, he was fending him off at the time and didn't want to relinquish the position. Fair enough, unfortunately at the same time Trey was railing around the outside and equally committed to the jump. Shit happens.
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As for ignoring the black flag, I can't recall a time when a racer hasn't ignored the black flag for at least a lap or two, when that black flag wasn't for their vehicle smoking or something obvious like that.
I have no problems with a bit of rubbing and aggressive passing, I agree it can be entertaining and excitiing at times but there has to be a limit as to whats acceptable. If some people want to complain about the amount of money they invest into the sport or how unprofessional they think the sport is compared to others maybe they should to stop confusing it with a Demolition Derby?
This is how it has always worked:
If one guy becomes so much of a pinball that he is taking guys out everywhere, the other racers will turn on him, and they'll all start taking him out.
One example of this is Vince Friese. All of the racers spoke up continuously that Friese would take people out, and would do things that are NOT acceptable such as crossing over on people in the air (rather than knocking a guy down in a turn), so even Mr. Nice Guy Kevin Windham took Friese out immediately at the Monster Cup a couple years ago. He caught Friese and immediately took him out. It was essentially a pre-emotive strike based on Friese's past actions.
The racers police themselves. Always have. And it works fine.
Racing is about 1% contact. Maybe if you're Barcia it's 5% contact. This is not a contact sport.
Again, just because there is contact in the sport doesn't make it a contact sport.
Reed's a big boy and will figure it out.
Reed didn't.
He sought delberate retribution right infront of the officials.
Well, you got me: That's not "immediate". It was almost a minute!
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