RC Road to SX Controversy

Grizz wrote:

The system has some bugs in it, sure. But I for one can't wait to race against the best AX guys in the world. I got...

The system has some bugs in it, sure. But I for one can't wait to race against the best AX guys in the world. I got my MX license last year and am going to give that a shot this year and then next year I'm going to go for the SX license and try that world out. Should be fun!

austin888_99 wrote:

Well if u lose just wheelie round the track put it on YouTube get signed w meek mill n chino n u is b good bra...

Well if u lose just wheelie round the track put it on YouTube get signed w meek mill n chino n u is b good bra bra. Just fucking w yay. Um bored sitting in a hospital room w nothing better to do

Grizz wrote:

Monster deal here I come

adub274 wrote:

I went to the SLC , Ut round last year . There were 38 riders I believe trying for the 32 spots . Not sure if...

I went to the SLC , Ut round last year . There were 38 riders I believe trying for the 32 spots . Not sure if it is just hyped up that much more this year or if it was a crazy turnout at OH . They made it pretty safe and only let 12-13 riders out at a time . They also had an expert and a pro/sport class offered on Sunday(amateur day) . You could race that to make the trip more worthwhile . I agree 92 riders is crazy but if they kept it safe and did not allow 25+ riders on the track at a time that's what I think should be important . In SLC I was thinking it almost seemed too easy to get a point . I am sure it is a work in progress and if huge turnouts continue they will have to make adjustments .

h&m_cycle wrote:

If you can't win a race in A,B,C classes, why are they trying to race supercross?

Jack mehoff wrote:

How about a 2 stoke 125 class at the supercross that they hold now !

Crush wrote:

Hows about they take it a step further and make the premier class 250 four strokes and the small class 125s. 250 two strokes were great...

Hows about they take it a step further and make the premier class 250 four strokes and the small class 125s.

250 two strokes were great, basically same horsepower as 250 four strokes now. Better racing because the bikes are ridden to their max, and the tracks can be put back to being technical and not so free flowing.

125 class would mean lower cost for privateers and 250 race teams, more money to go around. A better jump for entry level riders, and ALL amateur racing costs drop dramatically, because they only need to ride two strokes from go to the big show.

BOOM.

Crush wrote:

It seriously is the best thing that could happen to the sport right now.

motoxxx599 wrote:

I say the go another direction.. Designate 4-5 supercross practice tracks across the country (Milestone, GPF, ect..) and have a lap time that a potential supercross...

I say the go another direction.. Designate 4-5 supercross practice tracks across the country (Milestone, GPF, ect..) and have a lap time that a potential supercross rider must be under in order to qualify for a pro license. Heck, even make it 5 laps (these guys need to be fast for more than a lap). Designate a referee at each location as a third party verification source.

Or, have a week at each track during the fall where potential supercross licensees can come out and have an AMA ref there with transponders verifying lap times. The track will have to be vetted and a minimum lap time or combined 5 laps worth of time will have to be determined. There are guys at each of these tracks now who are in the mains every weekend so it wont be hard to determine a minimum time. Charge $100 per candidate plus track fees and it pays for itself. I guarantee you would have 100 riders at each track trying to qualify.

It s a rough idea but better then what we are seeing now. Thoughts?

Cspicer wrote:

First of all, everyone on this board have valid arguments, it all makes sense. However, did any of the previous top racers and champions have to...

First of all, everyone on this board have valid arguments, it all makes sense. However, did any of the previous top racers and champions have to grind their way through the Arenacross circuit?

CaptainRon126 wrote:

Except for the fact that only one brand currently has a homologated 125. And having a supercross class consist of purely KTM 125s probably isn't great...

Except for the fact that only one brand currently has a homologated 125. And having a supercross class consist of purely KTM 125s probably isn't great. Unless you make them roll the triples. We dont need another Pingree incident.

motoxxx599 wrote:

I say the go another direction.. Designate 4-5 supercross practice tracks across the country (Milestone, GPF, ect..) and have a lap time that a potential supercross...

I say the go another direction.. Designate 4-5 supercross practice tracks across the country (Milestone, GPF, ect..) and have a lap time that a potential supercross rider must be under in order to qualify for a pro license. Heck, even make it 5 laps (these guys need to be fast for more than a lap). Designate a referee at each location as a third party verification source.

Or, have a week at each track during the fall where potential supercross licensees can come out and have an AMA ref there with transponders verifying lap times. The track will have to be vetted and a minimum lap time or combined 5 laps worth of time will have to be determined. There are guys at each of these tracks now who are in the mains every weekend so it wont be hard to determine a minimum time. Charge $100 per candidate plus track fees and it pays for itself. I guarantee you would have 100 riders at each track trying to qualify.

It s a rough idea but better then what we are seeing now. Thoughts?

jhansen510 wrote:

Awesome idea IMO. As with any business which AX is. The decisions will also be based solely off of money! Always have been and always will...

Awesome idea IMO. As with any business which AX is. The decisions will also be based solely off of money! Always have been and always will be. It's the RC road to sx because he's cashing in on his name. Nobody said it was to train riders for sx tracks although if you can kill it in AX you should do ok in SX. Those guys in C practice are the fastest guts in all of our local districts. No offense Grizz but where do you expect to fall in if you can make the night show. In 09/10 my good friend was making ax mains and the guys in the mains are no joke. Especially at the early rounds. They let all the slower guys sign up because it adds huge amounts of money to the bottom line. End of story. They do not care about safety, licensing, preparing riders, etc. they care about sign up fees and selling tickets. Remember we awe talking about a company that's made billions off of circuses of one type or another.

steveada wrote:

Ignoring the debate about whether Mx or Sx is more representative of this sport, it is undeniable that as far as exposure and mass appeal, Sx...

Ignoring the debate about whether Mx or Sx is more representative of this sport, it is undeniable that as far as exposure and mass appeal, Sx is the pinnacle of the sport. As such, there is only so much room at the top, and whether you are talking about the 450 class or the 250 class, only the best of the best have any real shot at success. Some of the arguments people are making are ridiculous and laughable. You want riders in the 250 class to move up or get out of the way so younger riders will have a shot? really? Who does that benefit? The cream will rise to the top without riders above them being forced out of the sport. You want the best riders in Arenacross to be forced out so little Johnny can have a shot? If you are good enough to make a decent living riding a dirt bike in the arenacross series you have every right to do it until somebody better comes along and takes your spot away. Every rider is given the opportunity to line up and and race, it is up to them to make the most of the opportunity. Arenacross is not a training camp or practice venue, it is a test. If you can't pass the test, you can't go play with the big boys. Boo hoo.

Team Ideal wrote:

I thought Mitchell made it in, maybe it was only the lites class he made. IMO its bullshit these races are so far apart. I understand...

I thought Mitchell made it in, maybe it was only the lites class he made. IMO its bullshit these races are so far apart. I understand most really good amateurs travel across the country now days but this is taking things to a whole nother level. There is also one other ax series IMO that you should be able to accumulate points in, it would take a big burden off of the travel and it still has a high level of competition. I think they're really going to have to reevaluate the road to sx.

JBlain619 wrote:

Mitchell Harrison did qualify. He sat out the night show because he doesn't want to take points away from the series regulars. He got his advancement...

Mitchell Harrison did qualify. He sat out the night show because he doesn't want to take points away from the series regulars. He got his advancement point and is on to Grand Rapids, then to CO. It's bullshit that these kids like Mitchell, Smith, Frye etc have to spend all this $$$ to get points that really dont mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Frye and Smith already have factory contracts to race the outdoors this year.

Jakes Dad wrote:

Buddy took his kid there, said in 3 practices he watched, out of the 12 riders on the track at least 5 never did the catapult...

Buddy took his kid there, said in 3 practices he watched, out of the 12 riders on the track at least 5 never did the catapult. Most of those 5 would throttle up like were going to do it and then chop it at the bottom. A few got landed on after the faster kids got impatient. 3 crashes with scenario ended in broken wrist, broken collarbone, and a broken femur.

IMHO 2nd practice on not doing the catapult black flag. Almost needs to be a feeder series TO THE feeder series.