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Aceofspades 1/5/2015 8:37pm
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I think that Mike Alessi is probably a very decent young man who has had trouble with certain aspects of his personal life that have led him to make a few(very public) bad decisions. I like and root for him because that's how I feel. Same with Jeff Alessi. A whole lot of the Alessi bashing some of you guys engage in is childish and rooted in making yourselves feel better by pointing out the shortcomings of somebody else. I'll go so far as to say that even Tony Alessi is probably a better guy than his Public behavior makes him seem. He's just a person who cannot control his emotions and doesn't take the time to think about how his actions are going to look or effect his kids or his image. I'd love to see Mike win a championship.
Aceofspades 1/5/2015 8:44pm
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Okay... So with that said, then you and others like you should be even more understanding of Jeff and Mikes short comings in life, instead of...
Okay... So with that said, then you and others like you should be even more understanding of Jeff and Mikes short comings in life, instead of trying to bring others down to make yourself fell better.

And with that said.. If Tony or anyone else for that matter threw my stuff out of a dryer before it was done in that fashion, I would remove his stuff, finish mine and let him know that respect earns respect....!
Nicely put. Sad as it is to say, I think if Mike had someone besides Tony to help him work on his mental game, he would be a truly great rider. He obviously has the speed and the physical conditioning down. His problem is in his head.
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Maybe it was a really powerful laser by Villopoto that did it? Burned through one of the bolts... We know he was there haha
Clutchy wrote:
I'm sure you're doing the best you can but insecure unintelligent folks like you are far worse to this society, then a family of really good...
I'm sure you're doing the best you can but insecure unintelligent folks like you are far worse to this society, then a family of really good dirt bike riders.. But you're a good reflection of the kind of people that were too scared to be great at anything and or to lazy to work hard enough to achieve something great for yourself. So remember friend, when you point out others flaws and honest short comings in life, it say's far more about you then anything else....
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Oh, the irony...
It's not irony.. I'm not a bully. Defending and picking are two different things.
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Clutchy 1/5/2015 9:29pm
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Aceofspades wrote:
Nicely put. Sad as it is to say, I think if Mike had someone besides Tony to help him work on his mental game, he would...
Nicely put. Sad as it is to say, I think if Mike had someone besides Tony to help him work on his mental game, he would be a truly great rider. He obviously has the speed and the physical conditioning down. His problem is in his head.
Thanks and I'm not sure that's true or not. I used to say the same thing years ago. He might not do well without. Mike is easily a top 20 rider in the world any day.. SX or MX.. That's pretty farking great to me... You have some sick standards.. ( Not that you trashed Mike at all.)....

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Aceofspades 1/5/2015 10:57pm
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Thanks and I'm not sure that's true or not. I used to say the same thing years ago. He might not do well without. Mike is...
Thanks and I'm not sure that's true or not. I used to say the same thing years ago. He might not do well without. Mike is easily a top 20 rider in the world any day.. SX or MX.. That's pretty farking great to me... You have some sick standards.. ( Not that you trashed Mike at all.)....
I think that Mike Alessi could easily win many races. It's a mental block that kills his chances, and sadly I think the block comes from his personal life. Not to insult Jeff Alessi cause I know he reads this stuff, but I think Tony Alessi needs to step away and let Mike get another mentor in his professional sphere. I'd love to see Johnny O'Mara or Jeff Stanton get hold of him. Somebody with a champions mindset to push out his negative stumbling blocks. Someone with no talent could NOT be awesome at holeshots like Mike. He Is One Piece Away from completing the mental puzzle that champions in this sport seem to solve right before they start winning. It may be immaturity, or it could be stress from having a volatile person hovering around him at all times.
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mxgoon 1/6/2015 12:13am
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Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
scott_nz 1/6/2015 12:15am
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
because it was better than his holeshots to 12th place rides last year,
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
It's a top 10. Sorry if that is too complicated for you.
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IWreckALot 1/6/2015 8:48am
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Clutchy wrote:
Thanks and I'm not sure that's true or not. I used to say the same thing years ago. He might not do well without. Mike is...
Thanks and I'm not sure that's true or not. I used to say the same thing years ago. He might not do well without. Mike is easily a top 20 rider in the world any day.. SX or MX.. That's pretty farking great to me... You have some sick standards.. ( Not that you trashed Mike at all.)....
Aceofspades wrote:
I think that Mike Alessi could easily win many races. It's a mental block that kills his chances, and sadly I think the block comes from...
I think that Mike Alessi could easily win many races. It's a mental block that kills his chances, and sadly I think the block comes from his personal life. Not to insult Jeff Alessi cause I know he reads this stuff, but I think Tony Alessi needs to step away and let Mike get another mentor in his professional sphere. I'd love to see Johnny O'Mara or Jeff Stanton get hold of him. Somebody with a champions mindset to push out his negative stumbling blocks. Someone with no talent could NOT be awesome at holeshots like Mike. He Is One Piece Away from completing the mental puzzle that champions in this sport seem to solve right before they start winning. It may be immaturity, or it could be stress from having a volatile person hovering around him at all times.
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the shots and his results weren't any better.

I agree with your point by the way. I don't think one season of sans daddy is enough time to improve the way he needs to.

He looked much better through the whoops. . . . well what they showed of him at least.

There is something off about his riding style. When he's going through a rhythm section, his body moves differently than other riders. His head seems to twitch and there is a lot of up and down movement. To me, it looks like the bike is dictating how his body moves more than other riders. But I'm far from a riding coach so maybe I'm not seeing the right things. He doesn't seem comfortable scrubbing speeds either.
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IWreckALot wrote:
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the...
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the shots and his results weren't any better.

I agree with your point by the way. I don't think one season of sans daddy is enough time to improve the way he needs to.

He looked much better through the whoops. . . . well what they showed of him at least.

There is something off about his riding style. When he's going through a rhythm section, his body moves differently than other riders. His head seems to twitch and there is a lot of up and down movement. To me, it looks like the bike is dictating how his body moves more than other riders. But I'm far from a riding coach so maybe I'm not seeing the right things. He doesn't seem comfortable scrubbing speeds either.
When they let Decoster call the shots was that the year he was leading the national points until his dad had him ride the track the week before the national and hit the fence post?
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LoudLove 1/6/2015 9:14am
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Clutchy wrote:
I'm sure you're doing the best you can but insecure unintelligent folks like you are far worse to this society, then a family of really good...
I'm sure you're doing the best you can but insecure unintelligent folks like you are far worse to this society, then a family of really good dirt bike riders.. But you're a good reflection of the kind of people that were too scared to be great at anything and or to lazy to work hard enough to achieve something great for yourself. So remember friend, when you point out others flaws and honest short comings in life, it say's far more about you then anything else....
LoudLove wrote:
Oh, the irony...
Clutchy wrote:
It's not irony.. I'm not a bully. Defending and picking are two different things.
Just that your paragraph ends with "when you point out others flaws and honest short comings in life, it say's far more about you then anything else....".

Yet your statement is proceeded by:
"insecure unintelligent folks like you"
"you're a good reflection of the kind of people that were too scared to be great"
"to lazy to work hard enough to achieve something"

Hence, irony...
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Can't it just be said "Nice ride, Mike" and left at that?
No.





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dboivin 1/6/2015 9:37am
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
not sure either. he went backwards...I will give him credit for only fading to 9th i guess. *shrugs* lol
scott_nz 1/6/2015 9:39am
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IWreckALot wrote:
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the...
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the shots and his results weren't any better.

I agree with your point by the way. I don't think one season of sans daddy is enough time to improve the way he needs to.

He looked much better through the whoops. . . . well what they showed of him at least.

There is something off about his riding style. When he's going through a rhythm section, his body moves differently than other riders. His head seems to twitch and there is a lot of up and down movement. To me, it looks like the bike is dictating how his body moves more than other riders. But I'm far from a riding coach so maybe I'm not seeing the right things. He doesn't seem comfortable scrubbing speeds either.
yak651 wrote:
When they let Decoster call the shots was that the year he was leading the national points until his dad had him ride the track the...
When they let Decoster call the shots was that the year he was leading the national points until his dad had him ride the track the week before the national and hit the fence post?
he also got a podium in SX that year,
Aceofspades 1/6/2015 9:54am
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IWreckALot wrote:
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the...
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the shots and his results weren't any better.

I agree with your point by the way. I don't think one season of sans daddy is enough time to improve the way he needs to.

He looked much better through the whoops. . . . well what they showed of him at least.

There is something off about his riding style. When he's going through a rhythm section, his body moves differently than other riders. His head seems to twitch and there is a lot of up and down movement. To me, it looks like the bike is dictating how his body moves more than other riders. But I'm far from a riding coach so maybe I'm not seeing the right things. He doesn't seem comfortable scrubbing speeds either.
You're right. I forgot about the season with Decoster. I'd say that Tony needs to be on the other side of the country with no phone contact and after two seasons poor Mike might be able to decompress. I'd never noticed the riding aspect of Mike. To my very untrained eye he looks fast on a bike.
Aceofspades 1/6/2015 9:55am
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dkg wrote:
Can't it just be said "Nice ride, Mike" and left at that?
Crisp BRAAAP! wrote:
No.





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Lol. Wouldn't be vital if we didn't expend energy studying the nuances of a completely unimportant topic.
dirtjumpcycle 1/6/2015 9:57am
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
dboivin wrote:
not sure either. he went backwards...I will give him credit for only fading to 9th i guess. *shrugs* lol
Pshhht. I would take a 9th. I think I was around 24,245th in the world this Saturday. What place did you guys come in?
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dboivin 1/6/2015 10:01am
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
dboivin wrote:
not sure either. he went backwards...I will give him credit for only fading to 9th i guess. *shrugs* lol
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Pshhht. I would take a 9th. I think I was around 24,245th in the world this Saturday. What place did you guys come in?
if this was his first couple years in the big boys class...understandable...but keep in mind we're talking about a guy that can't stay on a team longer than a year because his dad wears out every welcome mat he's ever had....and basically over hyped the kid since day 1....so yes he's under a microscope.

moral of the story is...don't be surprised when there are haters.

i was waiting for bowers to cry when he won his heat....

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Bully mentality. Let it go.... Let Jeff live.
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Wow...... ABSOLUTE TRUTH! Let it go!!!!!!! By the way, the Alessi's are some of the more approachable families in the pit. Mike Alessi is a hell...
Wow...... ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

Let it go!!!!!!!

By the way, the Alessi's are some of the more approachable families in the pit. Mike Alessi is a hell of an athlete and good for the sport.

The passive aggressive attitude towards riders (Alessi, Villopoto, Stew to name a few) in the downer of vitalmx.com


Approachable???

He beat my boy Reed who people have picked for a Championship? So Kudos to him for a good ride.
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dboivin 1/6/2015 10:09am
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lol that contract thing still cracks me up. I hope theres more alessi antic's this year, so entertaining. They really need their own reality film crew to follow them around. good tv.
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Madmax31 1/6/2015 10:10am
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
Crash82 wrote:
It's a top 10. Sorry if that is too complicated for you.
LOL. mxgoon is a goon. How many people in the world can top 10 a SX race...maybe .001%?
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mxpro252 1/6/2015 10:12am
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
dboivin wrote:
not sure either. he went backwards...I will give him credit for only fading to 9th i guess. *shrugs* lol
dirtjumpcycle wrote:
Pshhht. I would take a 9th. I think I was around 24,245th in the world this Saturday. What place did you guys come in?
Comparing how anyone who has an opinion would have done in the same race seems really out of place and meaningless.

ESPN has entire shows where analysts breakdown what NFL players did well or not well based on how they perform relative to their past performance and the performance of those in which they compete against, and I’m pretty sure most of those analysts didn’t gear up for the same game they were talking about and many of them never even played in the NFL (I know some did but many didn't). You don’t need to do better than someone to observe how they performed and call it a good, bad or neutral performance.

That’s not an attack on anyone, just pointing out how pointless the “well they did better than you” defense is. Alessi went from 1st to 9th. For him that seems about right. Not bad or good, it just happened. Glad he's still out there.
dirtjumpcycle 1/6/2015 10:14am
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if this was his first couple years in the big boys class...understandable...but keep in mind we're talking about a guy that can't stay on a team...
if this was his first couple years in the big boys class...understandable...but keep in mind we're talking about a guy that can't stay on a team longer than a year because his dad wears out every welcome mat he's ever had....and basically over hyped the kid since day 1....so yes he's under a microscope.

moral of the story is...don't be surprised when there are haters.

i was waiting for bowers to cry when he won his heat....
hahaha! I don't think bowers has tear ducts!

I'm pretty sure every core fan agrees that Tony should have stepped aside a looooong time ago. But having his dad around is more important than a championship. The fact is, he still finished 9th in the world this weekend. THE WORLD! Just trying to stomp on some of the hate this guy always gets.
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LoudLove 1/6/2015 10:17am
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Reed's inability to execute a pass on Alessi defies explanation. What was Chad's response when asked why he could not navigate around the #800? It's akin to Alonso struggling against Force India. Surely someone quizzed Team 22 on those results.
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IWreckALot 1/6/2015 10:18am
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IWreckALot wrote:
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the...
I think what Jeff or Mike would tell you is that they tried that for a season and let Decoster (if I recall correctly) call the shots and his results weren't any better.

I agree with your point by the way. I don't think one season of sans daddy is enough time to improve the way he needs to.

He looked much better through the whoops. . . . well what they showed of him at least.

There is something off about his riding style. When he's going through a rhythm section, his body moves differently than other riders. His head seems to twitch and there is a lot of up and down movement. To me, it looks like the bike is dictating how his body moves more than other riders. But I'm far from a riding coach so maybe I'm not seeing the right things. He doesn't seem comfortable scrubbing speeds either.
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You're right. I forgot about the season with Decoster. I'd say that Tony needs to be on the other side of the country with no phone...
You're right. I forgot about the season with Decoster. I'd say that Tony needs to be on the other side of the country with no phone contact and after two seasons poor Mike might be able to decompress. I'd never noticed the riding aspect of Mike. To my very untrained eye he looks fast on a bike.
My memory was fuzzy about what happened the season Decoster took over. I might not have known about him hitting the fence post either. I just remember there was a short stint where Mike asked for a little time away from him.

I don't mean any disrespect to Mike or his riding style either. Just noting my observations. He is certainly fast on a bike, I'm just making comparison from what I see in his riding style vs. the guys that finish in the top 5 consistently.
dirtjumpcycle 1/6/2015 10:25am
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Comparing how anyone who has an opinion would have done in the same race seems really out of place and meaningless. ESPN has entire shows where...
Comparing how anyone who has an opinion would have done in the same race seems really out of place and meaningless.

ESPN has entire shows where analysts breakdown what NFL players did well or not well based on how they perform relative to their past performance and the performance of those in which they compete against, and I’m pretty sure most of those analysts didn’t gear up for the same game they were talking about and many of them never even played in the NFL (I know some did but many didn't). You don’t need to do better than someone to observe how they performed and call it a good, bad or neutral performance.

That’s not an attack on anyone, just pointing out how pointless the “well they did better than you” defense is. Alessi went from 1st to 9th. For him that seems about right. Not bad or good, it just happened. Glad he's still out there.
They did do better than us though. Therefore it isn't pointless. Everyone has the CHANCE to come in 8th place or better, but we can't, because we aren't good enough. So there were 8 people that were better than him this weekend. The "well they did better than you" defense works perfectly in this situation because everyone had the opportunity to race at A1 this weekend. *Except Stewart
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
scott_nz wrote:
because it was better than his holeshots to 12th place rides last year,
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I have not seen an interview with Alessi after a race in a while (if my memory serves me correct). I am specifically talking about the "How was your weekend" with Transworld. Is this something that is not allowed by MCR or maybe Don Maeda gets to choose who he interviews? You would think that top 10 would get your an interview, especially if you got the holeshot?

Guy B?
2WheelsForTheMasses 1/6/2015 12:38pm
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Rehaustykus wrote:
Maybe it was a really powerful laser by Villopoto that did it? Burned through one of the bolts... We know he was there haha
Clutchy wrote:
I'm sure you're doing the best you can but insecure unintelligent folks like you are far worse to this society, then a family of really good...
I'm sure you're doing the best you can but insecure unintelligent folks like you are far worse to this society, then a family of really good dirt bike riders.. But you're a good reflection of the kind of people that were too scared to be great at anything and or to lazy to work hard enough to achieve something great for yourself. So remember friend, when you point out others flaws and honest short comings in life, it say's far more about you then anything else....
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What if your an insecure, unintelligent dirt bike father like Tony? I've had the pleasure of meeting Tony as my family and I were standing in...
What if your an insecure, unintelligent dirt bike father like Tony?
I've had the pleasure of meeting Tony as my family and I were standing in line at a resturant at an amature national. The man bumped in to me as he cut in line. When I informed him the line started in the back he replied with, "You don't know who we are." Later that night he took a friends wet gear out of the dryer and piled them on the table. When we asked him why he did that he informed us he needed them more... I waited for the little man to leave, threw his cloths out the door and helped my friend finish drying his sons gear and left. We later heard he was screaming at the front office demanding to know who did it.

Guys a prick and everything they get is deserved.
Intersting...doesnt sound like Tony at all!! He may be hot headed and such, but not the type to throw your clothes out of a dryer to dry his own, im thinking there is more to this story!
2WheelsForTheMasses 1/6/2015 12:50pm
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mxgoon wrote:
Can someone explain how a hole shot and fade to 9th is a great ride.

I don't get it.
dboivin wrote:
not sure either. he went backwards...I will give him credit for only fading to 9th i guess. *shrugs* lol
Hm, so a 9th over all racing the best this industry has to offer is not considered a great ride? Did you look at the stacked field that finished behind him?

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