Kick a** two strokes!

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10/2/2014 9:26pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2014 9:29pm
My guess would be :

http://www.klpracing.com/

Specific 'Coke Bottle' info : http://www.klpracing.com/id12.html

His videos are good, too. He has a few showing construction of various products.

I'm a frame maker for well over 40 years now, and by my standards, Karl Landrus' stuff is quite good. Well, that's a bloody understatment, if ever there was one.
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10/2/2014 9:43pm
Yes they are made by KLP racing but the full size arms are around 1200 and minis are around 900 and you will wait upwards of 6 months to get it
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10/2/2014 9:46pm
Both of the Hondas were bought by girls who love to ride dirt bikes and they were way cool chicks too
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I actually sold the CR125 before the girl eventually bought it a guy who grows weed in my area offered me 4 pounds of indoor for it and I know a guy who owns medical dispensaries so I sold it to him for 2500 per pound and made 10K then 3 weeks later guy calls me and he is in desperate need of cash for some emergency and asked me if I would buy it back for 2500 so I said hell yes and took it back. then the girl who owns it now offered me 3 pounds of weed for it so I took it and sold it to same guy and made 2K per pound so all told I had about 5K into the build and made about 8500 total so not a bad hall. I live in Northern California and my area there is a lot of growers and the trading thing is pretty common to be offered a trade. I don't smoke it at all but I know I can get rid of it pretty easy. and best of all its all completely legit here now

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10/2/2014 10:03pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2014 10:05pm
Sean_Fries wrote:
I actually sold the CR125 before the girl eventually bought it a guy who grows weed in my area offered me 4 pounds of indoor for...
I actually sold the CR125 before the girl eventually bought it a guy who grows weed in my area offered me 4 pounds of indoor for it and I know a guy who owns medical dispensaries so I sold it to him for 2500 per pound and made 10K then 3 weeks later guy calls me and he is in desperate need of cash for some emergency and asked me if I would buy it back for 2500 so I said hell yes and took it back. then the girl who owns it now offered me 3 pounds of weed for it so I took it and sold it to same guy and made 2K per pound so all told I had about 5K into the build and made about 8500 total so not a bad hall. I live in Northern California and my area there is a lot of growers and the trading thing is pretty common to be offered a trade. I don't smoke it at all but I know I can get rid of it pretty easy. and best of all its all completely legit here now
Laughing You'd go to prison for a decent holiday if you lived here and posted that. The Gov is still slightly backwards here Angry
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weed is harmless not one person has ever OD'd on weed in the entire history of weed so I think they just need to treat it like alcohol and quit messing with people because of it
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10/2/2014 10:12pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2014 10:17pm
Sean_Fries wrote:
Yes they are made by KLP racing but the full size arms are around 1200 and minis are around 900 and you will wait upwards of...
Yes they are made by KLP racing but the full size arms are around 1200 and minis are around 900 and you will wait upwards of 6 months to get it
Cheap at that price. Price a standard swingarm sometime, people.

Waiting time - well yes, you get in line. Dependant on the frame, it's can be at least 2 weeks for me to make one , all by myself, with hand tools, by my spinning lathe and mill handles and laying each bead. And then the time wait is down to where you are in line. I also make alloy 'drop tanks' for CRs - 500s mainly - and if someone wants one, they pay $1300 AUD, and, at the moment, with the commissioned frames / swingarms / tanks and other things I have 'on list', you'd not get one for at least 8 months. Ad in my teaching jobs, and I'm a busy Bear.

You pay , and wait, for quality - I'm sure you understand that, but it read as a bit of a complaint. Skilled artisans, are not in it to flood the market, nor get rich quick. We leave that to 'dealers', and the like.
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not complaining I completely agree the end finished product is well worth the time and money that swingarm is 3 pounds lighter then the stock unit as well
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Sean_Fries wrote:
1984 Honda CR80 works bike I built as well[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/10/02/66653/s1200_IMG_0601.jpg[/img]
1984 Honda CR80 works bike I built as well

Do you have more photos of this bike - its bitchen
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10/3/2014 8:45pm
Sean_Fries wrote:
Yes they are made by KLP racing but the full size arms are around 1200 and minis are around 900 and you will wait upwards of...
Yes they are made by KLP racing but the full size arms are around 1200 and minis are around 900 and you will wait upwards of 6 months to get it
Bearuno wrote:
Cheap at that price. Price a standard swingarm sometime, people. Waiting time - well yes, you get in line. Dependant on the frame, it's can be...
Cheap at that price. Price a standard swingarm sometime, people.

Waiting time - well yes, you get in line. Dependant on the frame, it's can be at least 2 weeks for me to make one , all by myself, with hand tools, by my spinning lathe and mill handles and laying each bead. And then the time wait is down to where you are in line. I also make alloy 'drop tanks' for CRs - 500s mainly - and if someone wants one, they pay $1300 AUD, and, at the moment, with the commissioned frames / swingarms / tanks and other things I have 'on list', you'd not get one for at least 8 months. Ad in my teaching jobs, and I'm a busy Bear.

You pay , and wait, for quality - I'm sure you understand that, but it read as a bit of a complaint. Skilled artisans, are not in it to flood the market, nor get rich quick. We leave that to 'dealers', and the like.
Curious if you've made any drop tanks for the AF 500s, or just for the steel frame?
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Made custom tripleclamps so I could use front end off a 2003 CR85 on this 84

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Bike was awesome ran like a raped ape

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10/4/2014 3:11am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2014 3:17am
olds cool wrote:
Curious if you've made any drop tanks for the AF 500s, or just for the steel frame?
'Drop Tanks', and AFs, don't go.

As it is, so many AFs require the reshaping of the bases of std tanks / big tanks, to clear the engine. So, all the fuel, is carried above the engine. It's a bit like shooting yourself in the foot. I truly hate big tanked AFs......... Conventional back bone frames, allow you the option of dropping the fuel way, way down.

AFs, carry their fuel high - and if you want a bigger tank than the piddly (especially so as you go into later model donor CRFs) std tanks, you are carrying it ever higher. I've done quite a few AFs since 97, and it's one of the (quite a few)things that I dislike about them. Don't get me wrong - with all of the idiots who can't do basic maintenance on their 4ts, there's a hell of a lot of 'donor bikes' out there, that make a great new place for our old, wonderfully basic / perfectly primitive engines to live in.

I've a fellow that wants me to do an 'airshroud drop tank', for a 13 CRF build up I did but it would be a very complicated thing to do. "Airshroud Drop Tank" in that, like how a few big tank manufacturers get fuel capacity from incorporating the shrouds as part of the tank, but then me taking that idea, and bringing those "wings" way, way down.

If the bloke does come at the cost (a Lot more than I charged him for the AF conversion - which, I really don't do any longer, other than for a friend or two - I encourage people to make their own as it's basic fabrication, that most can do, and people should do their own bikes - not bloody pay someone else to do it) , it will be an interesting project.

I don't keep much in pictures, hell, I took precisely none last weekend at the MXDN, but here's a couple of ancient pictures of one of my steelie prototype tanks, during the (very) rough build up phase. They now go all the way to the ignition cover on the LH side, and the add on 'ears' at the forward sections, are a full, much more contoured part of the tanks. As you can see, it's the reverse of the classic , up to 86 (87?) Works RC tanks, with the radical drop to the LH side, but I also go as far down as possible on the RH side, dependant on the KS lever and pipe used: I build them to take 2002 / 2007 CR125 /250 shrouds:

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10/4/2014 7:21am
Bearuno thanks for your reply. I realize the limitations the aluminum frame spars create with the tank as opposed to the steel frames but on my AF there is a decent amount of space under the rear section of the tank down towards the carb. There appears to be 2-3 inches of space available. That may not be enough to make it worth the effort but it looks like a possibility. Just wondered if anyone had tried it. Apologies for hijacking the thread guys.
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Bearuno thanks for your reply. I realize the limitations the aluminum frame spars create with the tank as opposed to the steel frames but on my...
Bearuno thanks for your reply. I realize the limitations the aluminum frame spars create with the tank as opposed to the steel frames but on my AF there is a decent amount of space under the rear section of the tank down towards the carb. There appears to be 2-3 inches of space available. That may not be enough to make it worth the effort but it looks like a possibility. Just wondered if anyone had tried it. Apologies for hijacking the thread guys.
Hey, we're not hijacking the thread - we are still talking about kick arse 2ts!

Yes - there is room at certain areas to drop sections down on an AF, with a specific build tank. Much is dependant on whatever 'solution' the AF builder has used to do the head steady mounts. So, with an alloy tank, if you want to go for it, you can put various drops / pockets in to increase fuel capacity, whilst trying your damnedest to get fuel as low as possible. I'd be looking for every opportunity to do so, and that would be part of the high price of the tank. Every extra alloy piece, every extra inch of weld, costs. In my drop tanks, there are over 60 different pieces / weldments, for example.

I'm obsessed with lowering the fuel load in any logical way I can. That tank, is a 14 litre one - it wraps around the barrel, but with good air flow / ducting, there is no fuel boiling / or (extra) engine overheating - well, engine overheating, is par for the course on my 500, in the technical single track I do, hence the rad fans you might have spotted in the pics. If you look again , note how low the top of the tank is - it's several inches in height below a standard tank, and the seat ends up perfectly flat. It changes the feel of the std bike hugely - fuel far far lower than std, yet another 4 litres, with a far slimmer profile to it. It uses a Mikuni vaccum fuel pump that mounts on the tank, just forward of the carb, to transfer the fuel to the RH side of the tank.

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Came across these old TM's when I was going through my pictures. This was taken at KROC at Englishtown, NJ in 1995.



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Topher Ingalls canadian national bike![img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/06/02/55705/s1200_Topher_ktm.jpg[/img]
Topher Ingalls canadian national bike!

I know not a 2 stroke but my 350 almost looks like this one


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olds cool wrote:
Bearuno thanks for your reply. I realize the limitations the aluminum frame spars create with the tank as opposed to the steel frames but on my...
Bearuno thanks for your reply. I realize the limitations the aluminum frame spars create with the tank as opposed to the steel frames but on my AF there is a decent amount of space under the rear section of the tank down towards the carb. There appears to be 2-3 inches of space available. That may not be enough to make it worth the effort but it looks like a possibility. Just wondered if anyone had tried it. Apologies for hijacking the thread guys.
Bearuno wrote:
Hey, we're not hijacking the thread - we are still talking about kick arse 2ts! Yes - there is room at certain areas to drop sections...
Hey, we're not hijacking the thread - we are still talking about kick arse 2ts!

Yes - there is room at certain areas to drop sections down on an AF, with a specific build tank. Much is dependant on whatever 'solution' the AF builder has used to do the head steady mounts. So, with an alloy tank, if you want to go for it, you can put various drops / pockets in to increase fuel capacity, whilst trying your damnedest to get fuel as low as possible. I'd be looking for every opportunity to do so, and that would be part of the high price of the tank. Every extra alloy piece, every extra inch of weld, costs. In my drop tanks, there are over 60 different pieces / weldments, for example.

I'm obsessed with lowering the fuel load in any logical way I can. That tank, is a 14 litre one - it wraps around the barrel, but with good air flow / ducting, there is no fuel boiling / or (extra) engine overheating - well, engine overheating, is par for the course on my 500, in the technical single track I do, hence the rad fans you might have spotted in the pics. If you look again , note how low the top of the tank is - it's several inches in height below a standard tank, and the seat ends up perfectly flat. It changes the feel of the std bike hugely - fuel far far lower than std, yet another 4 litres, with a far slimmer profile to it. It uses a Mikuni vaccum fuel pump that mounts on the tank, just forward of the carb, to transfer the fuel to the RH side of the tank.

I thought about having a drop Tank made for the CR80 build kinda had a mini 1985 RC125 concept in my head for a little bit was looking at a tank and a one piece alloy sub frame air box combo but then I would have ended up have like a $10,000 1984 CR80 and realized better keep it mild unless I have a customer asking for that stuff it's not a great idea to throw money into that for a bike that would be a collector bike.

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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/07/01/58207/s1200_17_Yamaha.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/07/01/58208/s1200_50.jpg[/img]





kzizok wrote:
Wow! Talk about artwork. I found myself staring at these two bikes for a long time!
sec114 wrote:
i wonder whom makes this tank for the yz125? i would love to hunt one of these down!!!
might as well have a white and red YZ in that pic too

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ruskymx wrote:
Came across these old TM's when I was going through my pictures. This was taken at KROC at Englishtown, NJ in 1995. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/10/04/66787/s1200_tm_250.jpg[/img] Ruskymx
Came across these old TM's when I was going through my pictures. This was taken at KROC at Englishtown, NJ in 1995.



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those are Maico's, rusky.
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those are Maico's, rusky.
Ooops they are. aren't they. I just saw the "M" looking shape at the front the radiator shroud and thought TM right away without loooking closer. Maico isn't the easiest to read on the seat but it's definitely there.

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That Beta 500CR looks MEAN!! I looped out just looking at that bike....

The fins on the cylinder and head look intimidating..... makes my cr480 look more like a MR50
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quiknic wrote:
I have finally finished my build as well, this took a lot longer than I expected due to health and fund issues but she is finally...
I have finally finished my build as well, this took a lot longer than I expected due to health and fund issues but she is finally done. Still trying to make the decision if I should start racing this bike or if it should just go into the trophy room...

Hopefully next week I can add my sons Husky 125 build we have also been working on.

mx_phreek wrote:
Is that different suspension you got on that? She does look nice
quiknic wrote:
Showa A-Kit from a Sean Hamblin RM250. I will let you know how it works once I finally break her out.
Good lord Nic! That bike is beautiful!! You've given me some inspiration on my 06' RM 250!
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