Is this the #1 cause of global warming?

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Edited Date/Time 9/27/2014 10:56am
This weekend got me thinking and I googled it and I am apparently not the only one that thinks this whether some bloke or a scientist.

I was at the county fair and it was 76 degrees outside. The fair was on a long strip of asphalt. I was sweating fucking balls and miserable. It felt like it was 120 degrees and it was miserable.

Now think of all the roads and asphalt in this world. We all know that the temperature is much hotter when you are on asphalt.

It seems that the rise of temperatures has increased with the rise of roads being built. I bet if somebody graphed it that the incline would be almost exact.

So sure coal plants and other environmental factors contribute but the fact there is so much fucking asphalt every where surely has to be a pretty big cause to being so fucking hot all the damn time and temperatures increasing. Just makes sense right?
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9/22/2014 4:34pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2014 4:36pm
Global warming, Whats that?...oh your talking about the natural cycles of heating and cooling the earth has been going thru since creation...
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9/22/2014 4:37pm
Global warming, Whats that?...oh your talking about the natural cycles of heating and cooling the earth has been going thru since creation...
99% of the scientific community believes in it so I think I will take there word for it rather than yours.
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9/22/2014 4:38pm
Global warming, Whats that?...oh your talking about the natural cycles of heating and cooling the earth has been going thru since creation...
Quit listening to Hannity and Limbaugh. haha
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9/22/2014 4:43pm
It's a part of it. Every small thing that keeps more heat on earth is causing. But asphalt is a very small part of it. There is very little asphalt on the planet compared to the surface area of the ocean, which is better at absorbing heat

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9/22/2014 5:26pm
Global warming, Whats that?...oh your talking about the natural cycles of heating and cooling the earth has been going thru since creation...
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Quit listening to Hannity and Limbaugh. haha
Haha, yeah Hannity and Limbaugh are my kind of people,'for sure, but on topics like global warming i tend to listen more to Hagey and Joyce..

But i see your point, its def hotter when standing on asphalt haha..
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9/22/2014 5:57pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2014 5:58pm
I have very and I mean very little knowledge about global warming but I am smart enough to know who to listen to and from everything I read it is pretty well known among the scientific community that studies this for a living and collaborates with there peers that global warming is very real and mostly man made. That being said, it's an interesting topic and I am open minded to both sides of the argument but it's just very difficult for me to dismiss the scientific communities assessment about it and my own scientific study showed that it's hot as shit outside especially on pavement. haha

I mean I honestly don't remember it being this hot and miserable when I was a kid. I don't even want to go outside and do anything because within 5 minutes I am breaking out in a sweat and have to take a shower. Went to the playground with my kid yesterday and we were both sweating bullets. It's just ridiculous how damn hot and humid it gets. Maybe I"m just intolerant to it because I'm so used to being indoors at a perfect 72 degrees.
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9/22/2014 6:11pm
Here is a neat example of your theory.
The peacock bass from south America was never able to survive in any body of water in our country due to their low resistance to even mild low temperatures. They tried and tried for years back in the day to populate but never worked. In recent years they have been able to survive in certain canal systems in Miami in the busiest areas. The roads are so dense there they say it heats the ground and keeps the canals warm. A lot warmer than years gone by.
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Here is a neat example of your theory. The peacock bass from south America was never able to survive in any body of water in our...
Here is a neat example of your theory.
The peacock bass from south America was never able to survive in any body of water in our country due to their low resistance to even mild low temperatures. They tried and tried for years back in the day to populate but never worked. In recent years they have been able to survive in certain canal systems in Miami in the busiest areas. The roads are so dense there they say it heats the ground and keeps the canals warm. A lot warmer than years gone by.
Nice. That is interesting. Thanks for sharing. That gives me a little ammo when discussing this with others.
9/22/2014 6:30pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2014 7:02pm
Yes, many top scientists agree that global warming is real and is mostly man man... many, but not all, and nowhere near 99%, i think its more like 70%.
But many top Geoligists, the people who piece together earths history by studying the earth itself claim that the earth has been thru many, many heating and cooling cycles. These are cycles that dont come and go every 100 years. These cycles take thousands of years.

And how di they come to this conclusion, studiying the layers of rocks, carbon dating elements of natutre, which all elements react and produce different growth patterns and chemicalas in varying lengths of time at certain tempuratures. In other words if it was consistantly hot for a few short years,'they would not produce the same result as they would at the same temp over hundreds of years. Man has only had the capability to even try and study global warming for maybe a hundred years or so, really not even that long. They have relied heavilly on the recorded history of average temperatures.

Many scientists go by the law of probability, meaning that if they're is no rock solid evidence, than the most simple explanation is correct(something like that) haha.

So whats the most simple explanation to a race of people that hasnt realky had the means or technology to accuratly study or confirm something that takes millenium upon millenium to accur. I mean were not getting 1degre warmer every year, if we were, we'd all be dead by now from the excessive heat.Man hasnt had the capability to study global wRming excwpt thru one way...Geology, the study of the earths past thru the earth itself.

And most top geoligists say its natural cycles..
It may be getting slightly warmer as the years go by, but its just a warming trend....trend, not epidemic.
In a sens, you and others like you are right, the earth may be warming, but it not the global warming thats going to melt the ice caps completely and eventually burn us all up
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9/22/2014 7:32pm Edited Date/Time 9/22/2014 7:33pm
Urbanization is causing the data to rise..

~100 years ago where were all the weather Stations located?! The biggest cities! Now those cities are bigger and littered with enormous concrete buildings and asphalt roads..no shit average temps at those weather stations are rising.

There were no weather stations in what was the "middle of no-where" 100 years ago where many are located now..but they are claiming temps are now warmer then 100 years ago? Wtf..called fudged data..

Earth is what...4.5 billion years old...yet we claim it is warming with .00000002% of it's lifetime temperature data? OKAY!

That being said should we regulate emissions? Hell yeah..just look at China's air pollution...we can all agree with that but don't try bullshitting me with global warming..
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9/22/2014 7:44pm
It's an interesting debate for sure. You hit on something huge though which is Air Pollution. It's a major problem. I see it here in my own city. Pretty sad we have days where pollution levels are dangerously high and monitored like just normal weather. It's actually very sad we have come to this place in our history where we have polluted our air so badly. It's very sad.

I believe air pollution and global warming kind of go hand in hand though don't it so you seem to be contradicting yourself. You say air pollution is a problem but global warming is bullshit. Doesn't air pollution contribute to the loss of ozone which contributes to global warming? Also, I think the term global warming is more than just the planet getting hotter or temperatures increasing. I think there is more to it than that and the term may be misleading. I think.
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Good points Brad and Level.

I live in a convection oven in the summer (Phoenix), and all of the asphalt and concrete has a HUGE impact on the local temperatures. You really notice it in the evening, all of that "stored" heat inside the streets and buildings radiates out keeping the evening temperatures much higher.

Not saying that is the cause of "global warming", but it most certainly has a effect on the average historic temperatures. Common sense would tell you that, 100 years ago Phoenix was basically nothing and almost all desert even in the center of "town". Now the center of "town" is many miles from the nearest desert area.

The suburbs are easily 10 degrees cooler at night than the center of town, all due to the "heat island" effect from all of the pavement and concrete.

And it is Obama's fault too...



9/23/2014 3:29am
Global Warming?
More like global scam
9/23/2014 5:32am
It's not called global warming anymore. It's called climate change so people don't laugh as hard when it gets really cold. It's already getting pretty cold around here. Must be all the climate change and green house gases. We should all drive hybrid cars.

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9/23/2014 5:36am
It's not called global warming anymore. It's called climate change so people don't laugh as hard when it gets really cold. It's already getting pretty cold...
It's not called global warming anymore. It's called climate change so people don't laugh as hard when it gets really cold. It's already getting pretty cold around here. Must be all the climate change and green house gases. We should all drive hybrid cars.

I just heard this morning it is now called "Global Disruption".
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9/23/2014 5:44am
Global warming, Whats that?...oh your talking about the natural cycles of heating and cooling the earth has been going thru since creation...
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99% of the scientific community believes in it so I think I will take there word for it rather than yours.
Not so fast there buddy. Whether it's 99% or 70% or some other number of "all scientists", it was a small smapling of a select group.

Regardless if it's global warming, climate change or the new climate disruption, the problem is, is the whole thing has been politicised to where no one knows what the truth is anymore, they just agree or disagree depending on "who" delivers the message and not what the message actually is. This is true of all subjects, from religion, to the military, to welfare, etc, et-freaken-cetera. No one knows what they truly believe anymore.
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9/23/2014 10:13am
Global warming, Whats that?...oh your talking about the natural cycles of heating and cooling the earth has been going thru since creation...
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99% of the scientific community believes in it so I think I will take there word for it rather than yours.
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Not so fast there buddy. Whether it's 99% or 70% or some other number of "all scientists", it was a small smapling of a select group...
Not so fast there buddy. Whether it's 99% or 70% or some other number of "all scientists", it was a small smapling of a select group.

Regardless if it's global warming, climate change or the new climate disruption, the problem is, is the whole thing has been politicised to where no one knows what the truth is anymore, they just agree or disagree depending on "who" delivers the message and not what the message actually is. This is true of all subjects, from religion, to the military, to welfare, etc, et-freaken-cetera. No one knows what they truly believe anymore.
Very good reply-
9/23/2014 10:27am
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99% of the scientific community believes in it so I think I will take there word for it rather than yours.
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Not so fast there buddy. Whether it's 99% or 70% or some other number of "all scientists", it was a small smapling of a select group...
Not so fast there buddy. Whether it's 99% or 70% or some other number of "all scientists", it was a small smapling of a select group.

Regardless if it's global warming, climate change or the new climate disruption, the problem is, is the whole thing has been politicised to where no one knows what the truth is anymore, they just agree or disagree depending on "who" delivers the message and not what the message actually is. This is true of all subjects, from religion, to the military, to welfare, etc, et-freaken-cetera. No one knows what they truly believe anymore.
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Very good reply-
need to quote again!!!

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9/23/2014 10:28am
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This weekend got me thinking and I googled it and I am apparently not the only one that thinks this whether some bloke or a scientist...
This weekend got me thinking and I googled it and I am apparently not the only one that thinks this whether some bloke or a scientist.

I was at the county fair and it was 76 degrees outside. The fair was on a long strip of asphalt. I was sweating fucking balls and miserable. It felt like it was 120 degrees and it was miserable.

Now think of all the roads and asphalt in this world. We all know that the temperature is much hotter when you are on asphalt.

It seems that the rise of temperatures has increased with the rise of roads being built. I bet if somebody graphed it that the incline would be almost exact.

So sure coal plants and other environmental factors contribute but the fact there is so much fucking asphalt every where surely has to be a pretty big cause to being so fucking hot all the damn time and temperatures increasing. Just makes sense right?
You are right,global warming is because of pavement,they paved the road by most of the weather stations used and the readings are all incorrect.

The earth has been cooling for about 2 decades now,thats the reason global warming was changed to climate change.

I've been burning stacks of old tires for years to do my part in making winter less cold. Had to start doing it at nite a few years back because the neighbors call the law.
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9/23/2014 11:48am
Starting me a Global Disphuction website. Don't anybody steal my idea.
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Urbanization is causing the data to rise.. ~100 years ago where were all the weather Stations located?! The biggest cities! Now those cities are bigger and...
Urbanization is causing the data to rise..

~100 years ago where were all the weather Stations located?! The biggest cities! Now those cities are bigger and littered with enormous concrete buildings and asphalt roads..no shit average temps at those weather stations are rising.

There were no weather stations in what was the "middle of no-where" 100 years ago where many are located now..but they are claiming temps are now warmer then 100 years ago? Wtf..called fudged data..

Earth is what...4.5 billion years old...yet we claim it is warming with .00000002% of it's lifetime temperature data? OKAY!

That being said should we regulate emissions? Hell yeah..just look at China's air pollution...we can all agree with that but don't try bullshitting me with global warming..
Lol, where do you come up with the weather stations all being located in the cities 100years ago? I can search the net for almost any remote place in most western countries and find weather data much older than that. We had weather stations way past the arctic circle 200 years ago. Also, the climate is very measurable through ice. Glaziers, the poles in addition to earth layers are very good for getting weather data. They drill through the ice or soil and can analyze the weather from many ice ages ago. It's very interesting, all you need to do is google it and you can see how it is done.

And i'm sorry but I will not tell 99% of the scientific community that their best men and women, who are experts in the field and have the data and know how to analyze, that they are wrong. It's called humility
9/23/2014 1:04pm
Global warming, Whats that?...oh your talking about the natural cycles of heating and cooling the earth has been going thru since creation...
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99% of the scientific community believes in it so I think I will take there word for it rather than yours.
They agree with global warming.
What they disagree with is if it's natural or man made.
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9/23/2014 1:18pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2014 1:19pm
I think it's a combination of many things. Natural and UN-natural.

That being said.....in my 46yrs on this planet I can't ever remember a longer , more dry summer than what we just went through here in Oregon. It's almost as if the seasons have not only gotten hotter and dryer.....but they moved back.

What I mean is , I always remember Sept-Oct-Nov as it cooling down with a lot of rain. Last few years.....that hasn't been the case......but when the rain comes....it tends to stick around until late may , June and even July at times.

Whatever the case.....this is the strangest weather I have ever seen or can remember up here in the NW. Something is going on.....and that can be debated back and forth. Strange none the less.
9/23/2014 1:49pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2014 1:50pm
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I think it's a combination of many things. Natural and UN-natural. That being said.....in my 46yrs on this planet I can't ever remember a longer...
I think it's a combination of many things. Natural and UN-natural.

That being said.....in my 46yrs on this planet I can't ever remember a longer , more dry summer than what we just went through here in Oregon. It's almost as if the seasons have not only gotten hotter and dryer.....but they moved back.

What I mean is , I always remember Sept-Oct-Nov as it cooling down with a lot of rain. Last few years.....that hasn't been the case......but when the rain comes....it tends to stick around until late may , June and even July at times.

Whatever the case.....this is the strangest weather I have ever seen or can remember up here in the NW. Something is going on.....and that can be debated back and forth. Strange none the less.
Like we once argued nature vs nurture for genetics we now have the understanding that it's nature and nurture.

I feel that mentality holds true for the idea of global warming being man made or natural. It's probably man made and natural.

Is it confirmation bias that I believe the seasons are changing (changed by global warming) and I see more rain. Did these things happen every couple years and I simply wrote it off?

The understanding of global warming is hard for me to grasp. People migrated to other countries on frozen ice that is no longer there. Maybe they did this because the weather changed.

People bring up the fires in California as evidence of global warming but California is a Cismontane Chaparral. A Chapparal is defined as a place with Mediterranean climate (mild, wet winters and hot dry summers) and wildfires.(I stole this and forgot the link) But again, it's easier to simply blame the fires and drought on global warming and not the biome California is in.

I think the real question to ask is, "If Global warming is man made, can we do anything to stop it.?"
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9/23/2014 4:12pm
lol, global $$$ warming.
9/23/2014 4:23pm
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This weekend got me thinking and I googled it and I am apparently not the only one that thinks this whether some bloke or a scientist...
This weekend got me thinking and I googled it and I am apparently not the only one that thinks this whether some bloke or a scientist.

I was at the county fair and it was 76 degrees outside. The fair was on a long strip of asphalt. I was sweating fucking balls and miserable. It felt like it was 120 degrees and it was miserable.

Now think of all the roads and asphalt in this world. We all know that the temperature is much hotter when you are on asphalt.

It seems that the rise of temperatures has increased with the rise of roads being built. I bet if somebody graphed it that the incline would be almost exact.

So sure coal plants and other environmental factors contribute but the fact there is so much fucking asphalt every where surely has to be a pretty big cause to being so fucking hot all the damn time and temperatures increasing. Just makes sense right?
Global warming is happening...man made? I'm not convinced.
9/23/2014 4:52pm
When they get enough people behind the idea of global warming all it means is that they will be able to pass some huge billion or trillion dollar bill that they will make someone rich and won't accomplish anything because there is no way that anyone can explain the changes in weather that happen day to day.

I don't want to change the subject but they just did that with antibiotic resistance. He passed a $900 million dollar bill to try to solve antibiotic resistance but anyone who has taken any intro to microbiology class can see the problem with antibiotic resistance. It doesn't take $900 million dollars to figure out that antibiotics have to keep getting stronger because the infections become resistant when you take antibiotics for everything. I could have told him that and I only would have charged him $1 million

Obama's solution for antibiotic resistance

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