Why manufacturers will never go back to two strokes

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Excaliburbmx 9/6/2014 8:54am
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/09/06/64457/s1200_20140525_205950.jpg[/img] I bought 4 kawasaki 2 strokes 4 pair tec 3 boots 4 sets of gear tools gas cans loading ramp for 6,000. The whole family...


I bought 4 kawasaki 2 strokes 4 pair tec 3 boots 4 sets of gear tools gas cans loading ramp for 6,000.

The whole family can ride and i can rebuild any of them for under 500.00 and they are all the bikes we will ever need.

One new kx450f is 8000.00
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Cool story Bro! Now paint that pink frame ASAP!
Thats the wifes.
queen of spodes 9/6/2014 9:30am
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Thats the wifes.
Here's my 99 from a few years ago. :D









Can't see very good but the powder coat had glitter in it


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scooter5002 9/6/2014 10:34am
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CRF505 wrote:
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't...
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't we all just get along?", but Vital MX has literally made me hate two strokes and the majority of two stroke riders.

I have a question for you 2 stroke slappys though.... if your 10 yr old 2 stroke is so great, or the brand new four strokes are too expensive, then why do you care what the manufacturers sell off the dealership floors? You're not buying them anyway.

Peace out. I'm headed to the dealership with a smile on my face to buy my second brand new 4 stroke. #thumpthumpthump
Huh. Well on that note, go fuck yourself. Signed, a guy who has three 2 strokes, and one grenaded F-bomb.
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mxb2 9/6/2014 2:27pm
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Excaliburbmx wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/09/06/64457/s1200_20140525_205950.jpg[/img] I bought 4 kawasaki 2 strokes 4 pair tec 3 boots 4 sets of gear tools gas cans loading ramp for 6,000. The whole family...


I bought 4 kawasaki 2 strokes 4 pair tec 3 boots 4 sets of gear tools gas cans loading ramp for 6,000.

The whole family can ride and i can rebuild any of them for under 500.00 and they are all the bikes we will ever need.

One new kx450f is 8000.00
Good in theory but to compare your 2 stroke to a new kawy is kinda funny. i love both types of bikes but that 2 stroke is a old 2 stroke, nothing wrong with that.

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Excaliburbmx 9/6/2014 2:31pm
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I wouldn't trade it for a four stroke and I am sure they are great but I like the sound and smell along with the ease of maintenance.
I could not go any faster on any other bike. I am riding to my ability now.

Also the 99-07 are pretty much the same in the 2 strokes.
Harry Callahan 9/6/2014 2:38pm
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CRF505 wrote:
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't...
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't we all just get along?", but Vital MX has literally made me hate two strokes and the majority of two stroke riders.

I have a question for you 2 stroke slappys though.... if your 10 yr old 2 stroke is so great, or the brand new four strokes are too expensive, then why do you care what the manufacturers sell off the dealership floors? You're not buying them anyway.

Peace out. I'm headed to the dealership with a smile on my face to buy my second brand new 4 stroke. #thumpthumpthump
you're that dickhead at the track that no one wants to be parked next to, regardless of what you ride.

#tinypenis
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HuskyEd 9/6/2014 3:22pm
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CRF505 wrote:
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't...
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't we all just get along?", but Vital MX has literally made me hate two strokes and the majority of two stroke riders.

I have a question for you 2 stroke slappys though.... if your 10 yr old 2 stroke is so great, or the brand new four strokes are too expensive, then why do you care what the manufacturers sell off the dealership floors? You're not buying them anyway.

Peace out. I'm headed to the dealership with a smile on my face to buy my second brand new 4 stroke. #thumpthumpthump
Harry Callahan wrote:
you're that dickhead at the track that no one wants to be parked next to, regardless of what you ride.

#tinypenis
Boy Harry, you sound a lot like Charles Bronson. Shocked
Travis_Hudson 9/6/2014 3:29pm
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CRF505 wrote:
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't...
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't we all just get along?", but Vital MX has literally made me hate two strokes and the majority of two stroke riders.

I have a question for you 2 stroke slappys though.... if your 10 yr old 2 stroke is so great, or the brand new four strokes are too expensive, then why do you care what the manufacturers sell off the dealership floors? You're not buying them anyway.

Peace out. I'm headed to the dealership with a smile on my face to buy my second brand new 4 stroke. #thumpthumpthump
Harry Callahan wrote:
you're that dickhead at the track that no one wants to be parked next to, regardless of what you ride.

#tinypenis
Boom.
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Planned obsolescence.
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burn1986 9/6/2014 4:13pm
9/6/2014 4:13pm Edited Date/Time 9/6/2014 4:14pm
Here they come, mxb2 and GrapeApe. I doubt anyone on here will beat them in an argument. Oldfart would've given it a helluva try, though.

Nuttin but luv Tongue
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mxb2 9/6/2014 4:25pm
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Here they come, mxb2 and GrapeApe. I doubt anyone on here will beat them in an argument. Oldfart would've given it a helluva try, though. Nuttin...
Here they come, mxb2 and GrapeApe. I doubt anyone on here will beat them in an argument. Oldfart would've given it a helluva try, though.

Nuttin but luv Tongue
Come on burn1986, you know i like both types of bikes, my theory ride what you want and can afford, and never tell someone how to spend their own $$.
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CRF505 wrote:
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't...
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't we all just get along?", but Vital MX has literally made me hate two strokes and the majority of two stroke riders.

I have a question for you 2 stroke slappys though.... if your 10 yr old 2 stroke is so great, or the brand new four strokes are too expensive, then why do you care what the manufacturers sell off the dealership floors? You're not buying them anyway.

Peace out. I'm headed to the dealership with a smile on my face to buy my second brand new 4 stroke. #thumpthumpthump
Harry Callahan wrote:
you're that dickhead at the track that no one wants to be parked next to, regardless of what you ride.

#tinypenis
HuskyEd wrote:
Boy Harry, you sound a lot like Charles Bronson. Shocked
I had that feeling 35 posts ago, but who am I to complain? I find him hilarious. No need to drag up "The Dead Pool". Lol
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250 cc two strokes should be able to run in the 250 f class and 250 cc up to 500 cc should be able to run in the 450 f class........It wont"t happen but it should.
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Jarid332 9/6/2014 6:06pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Come on burn1986, you know i like both types of bikes, my theory ride what you want and can afford, and never tell someone how to...
Come on burn1986, you know i like both types of bikes, my theory ride what you want and can afford, and never tell someone how to spend their own $$.
Which is a great theory. Why people can't understand that, I'll never know.
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Insider347 9/6/2014 6:25pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
You guys are swimming in the same circle of ignorance & conjecture. The MFG co's did it for a reason that you guys are still NEVER...
You guys are swimming in the same circle of ignorance & conjecture. The MFG co's did it for a reason that you guys are still NEVER gonna get. It's out there...right in-front of your nose; but, it doesn't suit your rant.

Too funny.

Oh what do you know, mr. Know - it - all fuck head chimes in with his so called explanation. Is there anything you don't know? Get off your high horse dude.
Travis_Hudson 9/6/2014 6:38pm
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EastCoastMx wrote:
250 cc two strokes should be able to run in the 250 f class and 250 cc up to 500 cc should be able to run...
250 cc two strokes should be able to run in the 250 f class and 250 cc up to 500 cc should be able to run in the 450 f class........It wont"t happen but it should.
I agree. I don't think it will ever happen, but I think it would be so cool to hear both kinds of bikes out there.
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TeamGreen 9/6/2014 6:41pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
You guys are swimming in the same circle of ignorance & conjecture. The MFG co's did it for a reason that you guys are still NEVER...
You guys are swimming in the same circle of ignorance & conjecture. The MFG co's did it for a reason that you guys are still NEVER gonna get. It's out there...right in-front of your nose; but, it doesn't suit your rant.

Too funny.

Insider347 wrote:
Oh what do you know, mr. Know - it - all fuck head chimes in with his so called explanation. Is there anything you don't know...
Oh what do you know, mr. Know - it - all fuck head chimes in with his so called explanation. Is there anything you don't know? Get off your high horse dude.
Glad I got you so excited.

Funny.
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newmann 9/6/2014 7:01pm
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CRF505 wrote:
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't...
Amen to both of your comments. This thread is filled with ignorance. I used to think "a dirt bike was a dirt bike" and "why can't we all just get along?", but Vital MX has literally made me hate two strokes and the majority of two stroke riders.

I have a question for you 2 stroke slappys though.... if your 10 yr old 2 stroke is so great, or the brand new four strokes are too expensive, then why do you care what the manufacturers sell off the dealership floors? You're not buying them anyway.

Peace out. I'm headed to the dealership with a smile on my face to buy my second brand new 4 stroke. #thumpthumpthump
2 brand new four strokes? I did that too, a decade ago. That's all it took to make me realize the errors of my ways and back to the planet Premixia I went. I do enjoy a high strung 250F though. Right up until they scatter in grand damn fashion!Woohoo

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Berm 9/6/2014 7:26pm
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Manufacturers will never go back to 2-strokes because the 4-strokes are easier to ride. Look at this, even quad riders can ride a 4-stroke:
Bet you'd never see that on a 2-stroke, haha.

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Nothing sounds better then a 500 2stroke! just saying!
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mxislife17 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/09/06/64516/s1200_Screenshot_2014_09_06_22_04_34_1.jpg[/img] Nothing sounds better then a 500 2stroke! just saying!


Nothing sounds better then a 500 2stroke! just saying!
True, now go fix your crossbar pad, lol. jk bro . Have fun braaap
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JM485 9/6/2014 8:17pm
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mxislife17 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/09/06/64516/s1200_Screenshot_2014_09_06_22_04_34_1.jpg[/img] Nothing sounds better then a 500 2stroke! just saying!


Nothing sounds better then a 500 2stroke! just saying!
Now that is a great lineup! I run a 500 for hill climbing and have even taken it to the track a few times. Mine is an 01 still in the steel frame, but I still think it rides great regardless. Seems like the motors are very versatile, we just threw a large flywheel weight on and it is a very usable motor! And nope, nothing sounds better!
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mxislife17 9/6/2014 8:18pm
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True, now go fix your crossbar pad, lol. jk bro . Have fun braaap
I like to read while I moto lol
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mxislife17 9/6/2014 8:26pm
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Now that is a great lineup! I run a 500 for hill climbing and have even taken it to the track a few times. Mine is...
Now that is a great lineup! I run a 500 for hill climbing and have even taken it to the track a few times. Mine is an 01 still in the steel frame, but I still think it rides great regardless. Seems like the motors are very versatile, we just threw a large flywheel weight on and it is a very usable motor! And nope, nothing sounds better!
Yea that 96 is really nice Eric Gore motor ohlins rear shock 09 450 wheels I like it better then my 09 AF
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mxb2 wrote:
True, now go fix your crossbar pad, lol. jk bro . Have fun braaap
mxislife17 wrote:
I like to read while I moto lol
haha. good point.
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enketchum 9/7/2014 12:28am
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SquidBro wrote:
.....Coz they can't make a two stroke that will perform (race performance) as well of a four stroke.

NEXT!
You only have 11 posts.... maybe back off

These two bikes are both made by Yamaha and have equal displacement. Which one do you want to ride?



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SquidBro 9/7/2014 5:08am
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.....Coz they can't make a two stroke that will perform (race performance) as well of a four stroke.

NEXT!
enketchum wrote:
You only have 11 posts.... maybe back off These two bikes are both made by Yamaha and have equal displacement. Which one do you want to...
You only have 11 posts.... maybe back off

These two bikes are both made by Yamaha and have equal displacement. Which one do you want to ride?



Point taken, I was wrong to suggest that four strokes are superior race bikes and that is why manufacturers will never* go back to two strokes. Having read the other replies it would seem those posts are far more accurate than the 11 post squidshow.



*Never say never.
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Spartacus 9/7/2014 6:48am
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But but but it's ALL about what's easier to ride, nothing else matters Can't youz reed?
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But but but it's ALL about what's easier to ride, nothing else matters Can't youz reed?
Quads?
ToolMaker 9/7/2014 8:21am
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I was never that great of a rider. When I used to ride, my 04 CRF250 just made it more fun. If there's any better reason
to pick a specific bike I don't know of it. And with the frequency that I was able to ride I was not going to become a better rider.
TM

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