Starting out making t shirts and selling them online. Could use some feedback

Bubaskadoosh wrote:

Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of...

Awesome this is the kinda feedback (mostly) that I was hoping to get! He's already started going through your comments and here's a revised version of the grenade design. Since zippy asked, I'll re-share the link. Mxshirts.com Thanks to everyone for taking a minute to give me a piece of your mind.

Cygnus wrote:

It's "pin it to win it" just sayin.

Bubaskadoosh wrote:

Hahaha. We're actually working on this one here [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2014/08/16/62535/s1200_image.jpg[/img]

Hahaha. We're actually working on this one here

JM485 wrote:

Why the hate, seems like a pretty cool idea to me to help fund riding in a creative way! I honestly like most of them a...

Why the hate, seems like a pretty cool idea to me to help fund riding in a creative way! I honestly like most of them a lot. I'm not to huge on the grenade shirts, but the Grip it and Rip and the Commit or eat shit shirts are pretty cool! Good luck with the project, hopefully it works out so the idiots on here can eat their words.

thefactorypilot wrote:

I still haven't decided if we are being trolled or not... these designs are just so uninspired that it is hard to believe that someone would...

I still haven't decided if we are being trolled or not... these designs are just so uninspired that it is hard to believe that someone would sit down and say "now YES these will SELL!"

I do applaud the person for the effort, because that is what most people lack. But just take a look at some of the casual wear of a lot of the different gear companies make... ONE is a good example (although IMHO not so much recently, same with SPY). They have some really tight designs, but do you think they are just moving massive volume of casual wear? I'd be inclined to say no, it only supplements their gear business. I'm willing to bet that TLD moves the most casual wear aside from FOX, and comparing those two there is no doubt who has better stuff (TLD).

Your boyfriend has to ask him self what his designs are providing that aren't already out there by a hundred different companies. These just blend in with all of the other designs out there. I sometimes see adverts in RacerX for some casual wear companies or yet another mom and pop graphics company, and I wonder how they decided it was a good idea to go whole hog and invest that much resource.

Go back to some magazines from the 90s and early 2000s and look at the casual wear adverts from Xtreme gear... these quasi-motivational poster designs have already been done, failed, and disappeared rom the market a couple times over.

And lastly, since you asked for constructive criticism...

-The halftone dots MUST go.
-Every single font used in every one of these designs is cliche, doesn't fit with any aspect of the design, and no doubt came from a free font website. Tell your BF to delete 99% of his fonts... he should be able to get by with no more than 30 or 40 on his computer, and even them he won't use most of those.
-If he plans on selling this stuff, and from the looks of that website he is, he needs to clean up his artwork a lot more. For example, those grips on he Grip It shirt... he obviously just went to Blending Options>Stroke and dropped in an outline to the grips after he had used the magic wand and eraser tool to cut them out of the design. Then duplicated a layer and rotated it a bit. I can tell because the same bits of carelessness appear on both grips.
-Composition Composition Composition! Where am I supposed to look, where do you want my eye to go?
-Color Values. On the Grip It shirt, the backgrund is a very hard black, while the image he wants us to look at, the Grips, are a washed-out medium intensity half valued grey. It does not balance at all.

JM485 wrote:

Why the hate, seems like a pretty cool idea to me to help fund riding in a creative way! I honestly like most of them a...

Why the hate, seems like a pretty cool idea to me to help fund riding in a creative way! I honestly like most of them a lot. I'm not to huge on the grenade shirts, but the Grip it and Rip and the Commit or eat shit shirts are pretty cool! Good luck with the project, hopefully it works out so the idiots on here can eat their words.

oshow wrote:

Lmao

cody331 wrote:

An honest question, can you use Barcia, and the alpinestar logo on the boot without getting into trouble? Or did you already cover yourself there.....?

Bubaskadoosh wrote:

No not using this photo...just a concept idea, this is one of a couple different versions of this shirt. If he did use it there would...

No not using this photo...just a concept idea, this is one of a couple different versions of this shirt. If he did use it there would be no identification or logos . we've talked about that in detail before.

oshow wrote:

Lmao

JM485 wrote:

Lmao at what? Just because I'm a little more open to things and don't get my kicks from talking someone down on an anonymous message board...

Lmao at what? Just because I'm a little more open to things and don't get my kicks from talking someone down on an anonymous message board? Listen man, I don't think he is trying to compete with Fox or TLD, just make a little money to support what he loves to do, how can you find fault in that?

Bubaskadoosh wrote:

Boyfriend here, I appreciate all the feedback but jm485 pretty much nailed it on the head. I have a great job and I am not looking...

Boyfriend here, I appreciate all the feedback but jm485 pretty much nailed it on the head. I have a great job and I am not looking to change careers into graphic design. I'm just looking to make a couple of extra bucks to help pay for oil, lube, parts, etc. I spend about $50-100 on riding a week and I am hoping to offset that with a side gig. I am not trying to compete with fox tld or anyone else that's why I haven't branded. In fact I kinda despise that whole "they're name sells" thing. I wanted to make shirts that actually spoke to riders (except for the grenade logo, that was just for fun). I'm constantly saying focus focus focus when I'm riding. And I ate shit hard a couple of weeks ago during a windy day. These "cliche" shirt ideas are not from browsing the internet and trying to copy other peoples ideas.

Having said all that anyone buying a shirt online would compare my shirt a
To a fox shirt when buying. I can understand that, I'm stuck with single color shirts at the moment because four color machine is about $500 and that's a little counter productive. I really do appreciate the feedback though and will probably remove all but focus shirt and rework that one as well until I have something really unique and awesome. The. Work on the next for a while, focus on quality over quantity. More than one person has said half tones have to go, so gone! What would be really cool is if you guys could post shirts that you like or would buy that don't have logos/ brands on them.

cody331 wrote:

An honest question, can you use Barcia, and the alpinestar logo on the boot without getting into trouble? Or did you already cover yourself there.....?

Bubaskadoosh wrote:

No not using this photo...just a concept idea, this is one of a couple different versions of this shirt. If he did use it there would...

No not using this photo...just a concept idea, this is one of a couple different versions of this shirt. If he did use it there would be no identification or logos . we've talked about that in detail before.

Xeno wrote:

I [i]think[/i] that's actually an Andrew Short photo from a few years ago. I vaguely remember it used in some Honda marketing. Sorry to be critical...

I think that's actually an Andrew Short photo from a few years ago. I vaguely remember it used in some Honda marketing.

Sorry to be critical, but simply removing the logos doesn't allow unauthorized commercial use.
Luckily, that's a very easy image to replicate. You could go over to the REM track at Glen Helen and make a very similar photo.

JM485 wrote:

Why the hate, seems like a pretty cool idea to me to help fund riding in a creative way! I honestly like most of them a...

Why the hate, seems like a pretty cool idea to me to help fund riding in a creative way! I honestly like most of them a lot. I'm not to huge on the grenade shirts, but the Grip it and Rip and the Commit or eat shit shirts are pretty cool! Good luck with the project, hopefully it works out so the idiots on here can eat their words.

oshow wrote:

Lmao

JM485 wrote:

Lmao at what? Just because I'm a little more open to things and don't get my kicks from talking someone down on an anonymous message board...

Lmao at what? Just because I'm a little more open to things and don't get my kicks from talking someone down on an anonymous message board? Listen man, I don't think he is trying to compete with Fox or TLD, just make a little money to support what he loves to do, how can you find fault in that?

oshow wrote:

Lmao

JM485 wrote:

Lmao at what? Just because I'm a little more open to things and don't get my kicks from talking someone down on an anonymous message board...

Lmao at what? Just because I'm a little more open to things and don't get my kicks from talking someone down on an anonymous message board? Listen man, I don't think he is trying to compete with Fox or TLD, just make a little money to support what he loves to do, how can you find fault in that?

Bubaskadoosh wrote:

Boyfriend here, I appreciate all the feedback but jm485 pretty much nailed it on the head. I have a great job and I am not looking...

Boyfriend here, I appreciate all the feedback but jm485 pretty much nailed it on the head. I have a great job and I am not looking to change careers into graphic design. I'm just looking to make a couple of extra bucks to help pay for oil, lube, parts, etc. I spend about $50-100 on riding a week and I am hoping to offset that with a side gig. I am not trying to compete with fox tld or anyone else that's why I haven't branded. In fact I kinda despise that whole "they're name sells" thing. I wanted to make shirts that actually spoke to riders (except for the grenade logo, that was just for fun). I'm constantly saying focus focus focus when I'm riding. And I ate shit hard a couple of weeks ago during a windy day. These "cliche" shirt ideas are not from browsing the internet and trying to copy other peoples ideas.

Having said all that anyone buying a shirt online would compare my shirt a
To a fox shirt when buying. I can understand that, I'm stuck with single color shirts at the moment because four color machine is about $500 and that's a little counter productive. I really do appreciate the feedback though and will probably remove all but focus shirt and rework that one as well until I have something really unique and awesome. The. Work on the next for a while, focus on quality over quantity. More than one person has said half tones have to go, so gone! What would be really cool is if you guys could post shirts that you like or would buy that don't have logos/ brands on them.

Bubaskadoosh wrote:

No not using this photo...just a concept idea, this is one of a couple different versions of this shirt. If he did use it there would...

No not using this photo...just a concept idea, this is one of a couple different versions of this shirt. If he did use it there would be no identification or logos . we've talked about that in detail before.

Xeno wrote:

I [i]think[/i] that's actually an Andrew Short photo from a few years ago. I vaguely remember it used in some Honda marketing. Sorry to be critical...

I think that's actually an Andrew Short photo from a few years ago. I vaguely remember it used in some Honda marketing.

Sorry to be critical, but simply removing the logos doesn't allow unauthorized commercial use.
Luckily, that's a very easy image to replicate. You could go over to the REM track at Glen Helen and make a very similar photo.

hvaughn88 wrote:

I could be wrong, but that sure likes the makings of a 51 on the bike? And the dual exhausts

Xeno wrote:

I [i]think[/i] that's actually an Andrew Short photo from a few years ago. I vaguely remember it used in some Honda marketing. Sorry to be critical...

I think that's actually an Andrew Short photo from a few years ago. I vaguely remember it used in some Honda marketing.

Sorry to be critical, but simply removing the logos doesn't allow unauthorized commercial use.
Luckily, that's a very easy image to replicate. You could go over to the REM track at Glen Helen and make a very similar photo.

hvaughn88 wrote:

I could be wrong, but that sure likes the makings of a 51 on the bike? And the dual exhausts

cody331 wrote:

Shorty had #51 a few years back (06-07? same year he was in contention for Lites West) when he was on a factory honda crf250, which...

Shorty had #51 a few years back (06-07? same year he was in contention for Lites West) when he was on a factory honda crf250, which would explain the dual exhaust as well. I just assumed it was Barcia, which would also be an issue if they used that image, too..

Xeno wrote:

I [i]think[/i] that's actually an Andrew Short photo from a few years ago. I vaguely remember it used in some Honda marketing. Sorry to be critical...

I think that's actually an Andrew Short photo from a few years ago. I vaguely remember it used in some Honda marketing.

Sorry to be critical, but simply removing the logos doesn't allow unauthorized commercial use.
Luckily, that's a very easy image to replicate. You could go over to the REM track at Glen Helen and make a very similar photo.

hvaughn88 wrote:

I could be wrong, but that sure likes the makings of a 51 on the bike? And the dual exhausts

cody331 wrote:

Shorty had #51 a few years back (06-07? same year he was in contention for Lites West) when he was on a factory honda crf250, which...

Shorty had #51 a few years back (06-07? same year he was in contention for Lites West) when he was on a factory honda crf250, which would explain the dual exhaust as well. I just assumed it was Barcia, which would also be an issue if they used that image, too..

bama205 wrote:

Cut some grass in your neighborhood.

bama205 wrote:

Cut some grass in your neighborhood.

Hut wrote:

They don't look too bad but, if you want to be super classy consider these words for future projects; piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, and tits.

thefactorypilot wrote:

Your boyfriend needs to go to Design School. THe composition in all of those, I'm sorry to say, is rather terrible. I wouldn't wear any of...

Your boyfriend needs to go to Design School.

THe composition in all of those, I'm sorry to say, is rather terrible.
I wouldn't wear any of them if I was his sponsored rider and the shit showed up by the case full.
You said you wanted honesty, and I am a designer, so there you have it.

I guess a nicer way to say it is that they look extremely Local.

thefactorypilot wrote:

Your boyfriend needs to go to Design School. THe composition in all of those, I'm sorry to say, is rather terrible. I wouldn't wear any of...

Your boyfriend needs to go to Design School.

THe composition in all of those, I'm sorry to say, is rather terrible.
I wouldn't wear any of them if I was his sponsored rider and the shit showed up by the case full.
You said you wanted honesty, and I am a designer, so there you have it.

I guess a nicer way to say it is that they look extremely Local.

tprice07 wrote:

Where did you go to design school? Link to portfolio?